Cracker Barrel Fires 73-Year-Old Vet Who Gave Muffin to Needy Man

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Rakehellion

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Do us all a favor and stay out of the food business. You don't understand it. You also don't understand why people would work at a job and not want to be the owner or, person in charge. A word of advice in the unlikely event you do wind up owning a company. You'll avoid high turnover and make better profits if you don't try to control every detail. Your employees make your company a success or failure, not you.

You're still on the selective reply train, eh? Tell us how many restaurants you've owned, please.
 

master_shake_

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May 22, 2012
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You're still on the selective reply train, eh? Tell us how many restaurants you've owned, please.

i've never owned a restaurant, but i do know that at the local grocery store food earmarked for trash is still considered stolen if gave away...

senseless waste for nothing.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I know you've never run a business because you're too much of a pussy to even answer business questions on an internet forum.

Tsk, Tsk. Ignorant and foul mouthed. You're a credit to your generation. I know the food business. You do not. It's as simple as that. What was your area of expertise again?
 

Rakehellion

Lifer
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Tsk, Tsk. Ignorant and foul mouthed. You're a credit to your generation. I know the food business. You do not. It's as simple as that. What was your area of expertise again?

You know jack shit. And condoning the behavior of a random guy you've never met before on the basis of his "experience" confirms that.
 

akugami

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Feb 14, 2005
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The old man didn't give away a muffin that was going to be thrown away, he gave one away that was going to be sold. So the company would be no more liable than if someone had bought the muffin and claimed food poisoning.

As a business owner, when you sell a food product you understand there is going to be some liability risk. It comes with the territory. Just like if you perform electrical work for someone and their house burns down due to poor workmanship, you're on the hook.

What's frowned upon is giving out free products AND still be on the hook for any liabilities. As much as we all like it when people or businesses are charitable, a business is there to make money. That's the bottom line. That's why every single large business have corporate rules in place that prohibits giving out free food on a random basis.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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As a business owner, when you sell a food product you understand there is going to be some liability risk. It comes with the territory. Just like if you perform electrical work for someone and their house burns down due to poor workmanship, you're on the hook.

What's frowned upon is giving out free products AND still be on the hook for any liabilities. As much as we all like it when people or businesses are charitable, a business is there to make money. That's the bottom line. That's why every single large business have corporate rules in place that prohibits giving out free food on a random basis.

God bless risk management. Macro managing the food service is every bit as bad as micro managing the food business. Large food service businesses ie. corporations are just as capable of making the wrong decisions (in fact, more so) as the mom and pop down the street. Yet, because they're large companies, conventional wisdom says they must be right. Having held positions of responsibility in both public and private foodservices, I can tell you that private companies average doing a better job. The problem is using money as the ONLY metric. Of course that is the only metric ATOT millionaires care about and also why they will never invest in food services.
 

angminas

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If there weren't policies against it (keeping most people from doing it most of the time so they don't get fired), it wouldn't be five muffins given away, or hundreds...millions of people would give away millions of items to their friends, family, crushes, etc. That's why those policies exist- if they didn't, no restaurant could stay in operation.

Yeah, people should use their heads...this guy obviously didn't. Once, maybe twice could be let go, but he was told to stop and he didn't stop. I don't care how great someone's intentions are...if I tell an employee four times not to give away MY property that I paid for and they go and do it again, they're stealing, and they're fucking fired.

Should people give to charity and try to help the homeless, etc? Sure. But with THEIR OWN FUCKING MONEY.
 

Exophase

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It'd be one thing if the guy were making a decision on behalf of what he thought was best for the business and customer-base - I could see an argument for giving the other woman coffee to go. But giving a homeless person food? That really doesn't help business. Giving to the homeless is a good cause but it takes some serious gall to donate stuff that isn't yours then say you were doing it on behalf of that other person's moral obligation when you gave nothing of your own (but could have!)

Imagine if he gave a much bigger supply for a shelter food drive.. would anyone be defending him then? But how is it that different? He got fired after five infractions, those are the times he's been caught. Who knows how many times he's done this without his manager knowing - I'm going to assume he didn't actually report himself.
 

Veliko

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Feb 16, 2011
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If there weren't policies against it (keeping most people from doing it most of the time so they don't get fired), it wouldn't be five muffins given away, or hundreds...millions of people would give away millions of items to their friends, family, crushes, etc. That's why those policies exist- if they didn't, no restaurant could stay in operation.

Yeah, people should use their heads...this guy obviously didn't. Once, maybe twice could be let go, but he was told to stop and he didn't stop. I don't care how great someone's intentions are...if I tell an employee four times not to give away MY property that I paid for and they go and do it again, they're stealing, and they're fucking fired.

Should people give to charity and try to help the homeless, etc? Sure. But with THEIR OWN FUCKING MONEY.

It's astonishing how many posters are whipping themselves up into a frenzy about this. The notion that restaurants are on the brink of financial collapse due to food being given away and that bankruptcy is only being held at bay thanks to the valiant efforts of control freak managers blindly sticking to each and every rule is absurd.
 

Veliko

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Imagine if he gave a much bigger supply for a shelter food drive.. would anyone be defending him then? But how is it that different?

How is it different? Well, you've already said how it's different in your question - it's bigger.

If I take a pen home from work no-one really gives a shit. If I take an entire crate home with me then I may well get fired.
 

WelshBloke

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Jan 12, 2005
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So I'm the only one here who thinks it was pretty low to fire the guy over a muffin that very well might have been thrown away at the end of the shift?
 
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