Crazy UHP Tasers speeder

[Number1]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think you have to sign the ticket as a promise to apear in court or pay the fine. If you don`t sign it, then you are taken to jail untill your court date or untill you sign the ticket.


The guy was resisting arest and walking away from the cop, possibly to get into his car and drive away. The cop is by himself and he was perfectly justified in tasing the motorist and preventing him to drive away.



manowimp821 flopping wildly on the groung after being arested and tasered for a speeding ticket: , argn, argn, But, but, argn, officer, what are you doing? argn......

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Number1
Correct me if I am wrong but I think you have to sign the ticket as a promise to apear in court or pay the fine.

If you don`t sign it, then you are taken to jail untill your court date or untill you sign the ticket.

The guy was resisting arest and walking away from the cop, possibly to get into his car and drive away.

The cop is by himself and he was perfectly justified in tasing the motorist and preventing him to drive away.

Did we see the same video?

I saw nothing indicating the young kid was making a move to get in the SUV and drive away.

What Gestapo team are you a member of?

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Get off your effing high horse. No one gives two shits if you were a sheriff for two years or whatever. He's still a person at the root of it all and you can tell when a person is being a dick or not, hence people saying what they are.

Yes, we all know the situation is different as a cop, so stop acting high and mighty and responding condescendingly to every comment that disagrees with your personal opinion. Based on your posts I have no doubt that you were probably that stereotypical wannabe hardass sheriff that abused your authority. Sheriff's don't even really have as much as a cop or highway patrol if I recall correctly.

 

[pulsedrive]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Get off your effing high horse. No one gives two shits if you were a sheriff for two years or whatever. He's still a person at the root of it all and you can tell when a person is being a dick or not, hence people saying what they are.

Yes, we all know the situation is different as a cop, so stop acting high and mighty and responding condescendingly to every comment that disagrees with your personal opinion. Based on your posts I have no doubt that you were probably that stereotypical wannabe hardass sheriff that abused your authority. Sheriff's don't even really have as much as a cop or highway patrol if I recall correctly.

See and you would be insanely wrong. In fact I luckily never got myself into situation where I had to use force. This is why as you would see if you actually read my posts I don't say the trooper was faultless, I said he was within his right to tase the guy. Should he have tried longer to reason with this guy, yes, I never said he shouldn't have, in fact I have been in similar situations and it never came down to use of force. Admittedly we never had tasers but that isn't the point. The issue is that this guy, is not by a long shot being calm. He is being a sarcastic pain in the ass, going on about "where the fuck is this sign" etc etc.

Also, you don't recall correctly. Pretty much all HP does is hand out tickets for speeding and handle accidents on the interstates and highways of a state. Local LE almost always handle everything else.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Why do you scream a bit more and taser us. Maybe then we'll get the point Mr. Officer Jackass?

You only further prove the point that overzealous power trip cops are the real idiots here.

Mr. I rode around with a park ranger while in college because I was intoxicated and fornicating with a doe.

A year as a wanna be cop and they automatically think they know everything. Gotta love it.

 

[pulsedrive]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

He was not acting like an ass-hat, questioning authority is perfectly fine, it is not ass-hat behavior. The pant pocket, I'm not so sure about. It looked like he was just resting his hands there at first, but then he didn't pull his hands out after having the gun drawn on him... I don't know. I'd like to know why he didn't put his hands up or SOMETHING. He didn't have anything dangerous, or we would've heard about it.

I don't have a problem with questioning authority. It is the manner in which you do it that determines asshat status. He was doing it in the wrong way. He was getting condescending towards the trooper, which is just 1. not polite, and 2. just doesn't go along way to making the trooper trust you.

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Get off your effing high horse. No one gives two shits if you were a sheriff for two years or whatever. He's still a person at the root of it all and you can tell when a person is being a dick or not, hence people saying what they are.

Yes, we all know the situation is different as a cop, so stop acting high and mighty and responding condescendingly to every comment that disagrees with your personal opinion. Based on your posts I have no doubt that you were probably that stereotypical wannabe hardass sheriff that abused your authority. Sheriff's don't even really have as much as a cop or highway patrol if I recall correctly.

Seriously.. Last time I checked we still aren't living in a police state and police do have to respect certain ground rules of how to act. Sure, the guy was goofing around, but unless you're violating the law (and no, speeding does not count as its only a civil infraction) you have every right to do that. I'm not saying we shouldn't be respectful of the police as they do have a difficult job to do, but the police need to show that respect back. And pulsedrive only affirms that stereotype of police being hardasses who don't use good judgment to resolve situations without the use of force.

 

[pulsedrive]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Get off your effing high horse. No one gives two shits if you were a sheriff for two years or whatever. He's still a person at the root of it all and you can tell when a person is being a dick or not, hence people saying what they are.

Yes, we all know the situation is different as a cop, so stop acting high and mighty and responding condescendingly to every comment that disagrees with your personal opinion. Based on your posts I have no doubt that you were probably that stereotypical wannabe hardass sheriff that abused your authority. Sheriff's don't even really have as much as a cop or highway patrol if I recall correctly.

Seriously.. Last time I checked we still aren't living in a police state and police do have to respect certain ground rules of how to act. Sure, the guy was goofing around, but unless you're violating the law (and no, speeding does not count as its only a civil infraction) you have every right to do that. I'm not saying we shouldn't be respectful of the police as they do have a difficult job to do, but the police need to show that respect back. And pulsedrive only affirms that stereotype of police being hardasses who don't use good judgment to resolve situations without the use of force.

You know what. Fine, you all think I am a hard ass. At no point did I say this trooper had done things the appropriate way.

I am just stopping right here. It does me no good to argue with you and it does you no good to argue with me. I have made my views clear to those who will read past the stereotypical "stupid fracking cops" reactions that they are prone too.

/end rant.

 

[jpeyton]

Uh oh, we got piggies in this thread.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
No clue why he was asked to exit the vehicle for refusing to sign, but, he did not listen to the officer's commands to turn around and place his hands behind his back. In fact he kept toying around with his right side pants pcoket. That cop had no clue what he was possibly reaching for and acted accordingly.


If he had the right to refuse signing the ticket the officer was in the wrong for escalating the issue.

Someone could make a fortune selling taser proof clothing.

Text

It's basically conductive and non-conductive material in layers that prevent an electric charge from ever reaching the body -- because yelling "Don't tase me, bro!" just doesn't work.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: waggy
yeap both are idiots. the cop and the driver.

Yet more proof that cops are fucktards, and so are the people they pull over :laugh:

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Get off your effing high horse. No one gives two shits if you were a sheriff for two years or whatever. He's still a person at the root of it all and you can tell when a person is being a dick or not, hence people saying what they are.

Yes, we all know the situation is different as a cop, so stop acting high and mighty and responding condescendingly to every comment that disagrees with your personal opinion. Based on your posts I have no doubt that you were probably that stereotypical wannabe hardass sheriff that abused your authority. Sheriff's don't even really have as much as a cop or highway patrol if I recall correctly.

See and you would be insanely wrong. In fact I luckily never got myself into situation where I had to use force. This is why as you would see if you actually read my posts I don't say the trooper was faultless, I said he was within his right to tase the guy. Should he have tried longer to reason with this guy, yes, I never said he shouldn't have, in fact I have been in similar situations and it never came down to use of force. Admittedly we never had tasers but that isn't the point. The issue is that this guy, is not by a long shot being calm. He is being a sarcastic pain in the ass, going on about "where the fuck is this sign" etc etc.

Also, you don't recall correctly. Pretty much all HP does is hand out tickets for speeding and handle accidents on the interstates and highways of a state. Local LE almost always handle everything else.

By admitting that the cop should've attempted to reason with the driver longer, you are essentially saying he was NOT within his rights to tase the guy. I would agree.

Also, being sarcastic, even if ill-advised and untimely, is not a crime. You are not REQUIRED to be respectful of a police officer. You should generally do what they tell you, within the limits of the law, but you are fully within your rights to question the entire process.

Should the driver just have signed the ticket and argued the case in court rather than on the side of the road? Yes. Should he have been arrested for refusing to sign said ticket? If that's the state law, then yes. Should the officer have escalated the situation as quickly as he did? No.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Pretty much all HP does is hand out tickets for speeding and handle accidents on the interstates and highways of a state.

Local LE almost always handle everything else.

Wrong and you know it.

HP acts as agents for municipalities for revenue collection.

I'm sure there was a local town nearby in this incident reaping the rewards of not only the ticket revenue in this case but they collect a lot of money arresting and processing as well.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Alistar7
No clue why he was asked to exit the vehicle for refusing to sign, but, he did not listen to the officer's commands to turn around and place his hands behind his back. In fact he kept toying around with his right side pants pcoket. That cop had no clue what he was possibly reaching for and acted accordingly.


If he had the right to refuse signing the ticket the officer was in the wrong for escalating the issue.

Someone could make a fortune selling taser proof clothing.

Text

It's basically conductive and non-conductive material in layers that prevent an electric charge from ever reaching the body -- because yelling "Don't tase me, bro!" just doesn't work.

Oooh. A Faraday suit.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Number1
Correct me if I am wrong but I think you have to sign the ticket as a promise to apear in court or pay the fine.

If you don`t sign it, then you are taken to jail untill your court date or untill you sign the ticket.

The guy was resisting arest and walking away from the cop, possibly to get into his car and drive away.

The cop is by himself and he was perfectly justified in tasing the motorist and preventing him to drive away.

Did we see the same video?

I saw nothing indicating the young kid was making a move to get in the SUV and drive away.

What Gestapo team are you a member of?

Hei Hitler!

Kid? he looks like a full growned idiot to me.

The "kid" was walking toward his car away from the officer. We don't know what his intent was.
What video were you watching?

Could the situation have been handled better, absolutely.

 

[jpeyton]

This cop is an idiot of the highest level.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Number1
Correct me if I am wrong but I think you have to sign the ticket as a promise to apear in court or pay the fine.

If you don`t sign it, then you are taken to jail untill your court date or untill you sign the ticket.

The guy was resisting arest and walking away from the cop, possibly to get into his car and drive away.

The cop is by himself and he was perfectly justified in tasing the motorist and preventing him to drive away.

Did we see the same video?

I saw nothing indicating the young kid was making a move to get in the SUV and drive away.

What Gestapo team are you a member of?

he was walking away from the cop...

The top should've been clearer about whats going out - step out of the car, you're under arrest for not cooperating. Sire you're resisting arrest .... zap.

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: halik
he was walking away from the cop...

It was a speeding ticket...

See how that works?

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: halik
he was walking away from the cop...

It was a speeding ticket...

See how that works?

Oh yeah, when I get pulled over by the police I drive away too... :roll:
The video shoes clearly him walking away from the cop, heading towards the driver's side door.

 

[ric1287]

i really do <3 that all these "don't taser me bro" videos are so very "clear cut".

These aren't random people walking down the street getting tazed. They are people who are acting like idiots. If you are a cop, you cannot figure that whatever random person isn't going to do something violent or stupid (queue video of a cop getting shot over a traffic stop). If you are told to do something by the police, then fucking do it. Out on the curb/street is not the right place to fight anything or stick it to the man that you shouldn't be getting a ticket, thats why we have a court (and if you are really that paranoid about every aspect of our legal system, then just stay inside your foil covered room). This is the reason people get tasered, because the officers have to keep themselves safe and can't assume that every person is harmless.

I am not saying there has never ever been a case of misuse, but most of the people who argue this stuff have no clue what they are talking about and use any random video of a tasering as "police brutality"

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Last two bogus tickets I got I would not sign as they were clearly for revenue and I had not done anything wrong.

Damn conspiracy theorists. Signing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. They cannot come back and convict you in court by saying that you admitted to the infraction by signing the ticket. Signing the ticket does not mean you did anything wrong. It just means that you understand that you are alleged to have committed the infraction. It does not limit, in any way, your ability to fight the ticket.

ZV

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Last two bogus tickets I got I would not sign as they were clearly for revenue and I had not done anything wrong.

Damn conspiracy theorists. Signing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. They cannot come back and convict you in court by saying that you admitted to the infraction by signing the ticket. Signing the ticket does not mean you did anything wrong. It just means that you understand that you are alleged to have committed the infraction. It does not limit, in any way, your ability to fight the ticket.

ZV

Somebody tase this guy please...

 

[amdskip]

So if the cop had a problem with him having his hand in his pocket why didn't he ask him to please remove his hand or place them where I can see them.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: manowar821
I don't think the civ was being unreasonable, he was acting quite casual about it. He pointed down the road and asked if they could go see if there was as sign stating the posted speed where he had claimed he was speeding, and then the cop pulled out the lazy-gun. That look on the civs face is exactly the same look I would've given him, along with the "what the hell is your problem?" comment. This cop is a dick, though-and-through. I bet the guy was right all along, even. I wouldn't bet money on it, but I think he was being VERY reasonable. Why the hell do cops have to be like robots with everyone? Why can they not discuss the issue on-site, and figure out if the accused is truly at fault? Kind of ridiculous if you ask me.

See and that is JUST the kind of comment I would expect from someone who has NEVER been a cop, or known one personally.

Also, I would like to add an: ARE YOU FREAKIN BLIND!!?? The driver was fiddling with something in his right pants pocket and acting like a total ass hat. He may have had absolutely NOTHING in that pocket, but when you are dealing with cops, you do NOT put your hands in your pockets with telling them why or being asked.

Get off your effing high horse. No one gives two shits if you were a sheriff for two years or whatever. He's still a person at the root of it all and you can tell when a person is being a dick or not, hence people saying what they are.

Yes, we all know the situation is different as a cop, so stop acting high and mighty and responding condescendingly to every comment that disagrees with your personal opinion. Based on your posts I have no doubt that you were probably that stereotypical wannabe hardass sheriff that abused your authority. Sheriff's don't even really have as much as a cop or highway patrol if I recall correctly.

See and you would be insanely wrong. In fact I luckily never got myself into situation where I had to use force. This is why as you would see if you actually read my posts I don't say the trooper was faultless, I said he was within his right to tase the guy. Should he have tried longer to reason with this guy, yes, I never said he shouldn't have, in fact I have been in similar situations and it never came down to use of force. Admittedly we never had tasers but that isn't the point. The issue is that this guy, is not by a long shot being calm. He is being a sarcastic pain in the ass, going on about "where the fuck is this sign" etc etc.

Also, you don't recall correctly. Pretty much all HP does is hand out tickets for speeding and handle accidents on the interstates and highways of a state. Local LE almost always handle everything else.

Within reason? The cop asked the guy to get out of the car, the guy gets out of the car and walks over the cop and then the cop whips out his taser. This whole situation could've been avoided if the cop wasn't a jackass and had instructed the man properly.

Also, since when is not signing a ticket reason for arrest?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Last two bogus tickets I got I would not sign as they were clearly for revenue and I had not done anything wrong.

Damn conspiracy theorists. Signing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. They cannot come back and convict you in court by saying that you admitted to the infraction by signing the ticket. Signing the ticket does not mean you did anything wrong. It just means that you understand that you are alleged to have committed the infraction. It does not limit, in any way, your ability to fight the ticket.

ZV

Somebody tase this guy please...

Yeah, we can't have correct information getting out. :roll:

And the correction regarding signing the ticket obviously means I support the officer's use of the tazer in this situation. Oh... Wait... No it doesn't.

ZV