Credit application company scamming my wife... need AT help.

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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I'm trying to figure out why the company is "bogus." Did they not provide the service that they promised? It sounds like the only problem is that they still want to charge you for the service after you backed out. But their service is finding you a loan. They already did the work. Why shouldn't they get paid for their work?

I agree with you mugs. Pulling a credit report is not free and neither is keeping people employed to fool around with people WHO CANT READ!

Its called an application fee people and its perfectly legal. Next time read the fine print. I always do.

The biggest trap people have been falling into recently is auto-billing "scams". Since people are TOO LAZY to read the fine print, they accept "free products" if they agree to pay shipping fees with a credit card. Those companies then make money AUTO-BILLING these peoples credit card on a monthly basis to the tune of $65+ per month to keep sending this "free product". Its in the fine print people!
 

highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
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That wont do anything if this company can prove to the bureaus that he owes the debt.

This is what it reads on your credit under the tradeline if you dispute it and lose:

"Dispite filed. Dispute resolved. Consumer disagrees."


If you don't plan on financing anything in the near future, then take the hit on your credit. A single collection won't hurt very much after 12-18 months.
Thought you could continually dispute hoping they would, eventually, fail to respond and it would disappear. Reason being that I've pulled reports on people, that have applied more than once, and derogatory creditors would be absent from the new one. Other than the "identity theft" scam(which they didn't do) I couldn't see how else to do it.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Thought you could continually dispute hoping they would, eventually, fail to respond and it would disappear. Reason being that I've pulled reports on people, that have applied more than once, and derogatory creditors would be absent from the new one. Other than the "identity theft" scam(which they didn't do) I couldn't see how else to do it.

They may have had a legitimate dispute and won.

I am not saying the OP owes the debt, because I don't have the fine print of what his wife agreed to in front of me. But if she did agree to a processing fee, there is no point in disputing it, you will lose, and it will go to collection.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
Apr 15, 2004
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Telling us it was for a boob job was really an important part of your story, good call on that.
 

highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
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They may have had a legitimate dispute and won.
Nope. Charge offs with companies similar to my own but these were multi office corps that would follow up on disputes through e-oscar. Fairly regularly (1 of 10 maybe), I'll pull reports with time gaps in the credit history. I'll make a few local calls and, sure enough, they have been charged off around town but it's "missing" on the report.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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That wont do anything if this company can prove to the bureaus that he owes the debt.

This is what it reads on your credit under the tradeline if you dispute it and lose:

"Dispute filed. Dispute resolved. Consumer disagrees."


If you don't plan on financing anything in the near future, then take the hit on your credit. A single collection won't hurt very much after 12-18 months.



I understand $150 is not worth screwing a credit score for, but at the same time that is the thought process this type of company is banking on. This is merely dressed up extortion. Give us money or we wreck your credit. Who gives a shit that the fee's were hidden in the fine print, the fee's are borderline illegal and we are essentially a bunch of fucknuts. Oh yea, did I mention they accepted the credit card for her (even though she never accepted it) and they sent her a collections notice with someone elses name on it. This company is all kinds of bullshit and I will not line their pockets regardless of whether or not my wife should have read the fine print (she should have).


As for Nicks question as to the loaner, I'll let you know as soon as my wife gets home and I see the card. From what I understand its written on the back of that.
 

Dr. Zaus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2008
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Web of trust says that they are just trying to get your bank account so they can fuck you harder.

http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/acquiredloans.net

They've already got too much of your info; it is time to lock down your ID and never ever ever ever ever give these people your bank account number.

I find it appalling that you didn't share at-least some images of the supposed boob job; just a family photo without faces and high rez, before and after. I call shenanigans or possibly even reverse-psychology spam w/out boob job proof!
 
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Old Hippie

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Pics of tits please.
On a serious note, take it from someone in the credit industry: If you think for a second that you may be legally obligated for the debt: Pay it. Then try and fight them to get it back with whatever consumer protection law you want.

$150 is not worth the damage that sinking one or more of your credit scores can do.

Yep.

It's obviously a scam but one that your wife agreed to.

Don't pay if you can take the credit hit.
 

Slapstick

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........ Maybe a month later she gets a card in the mail. She was pissed at the time cause she said she didn't want it. I told her it wasn't a big deal, we aren't going to use it and not to worry about it.

Sounds like your fault for not letting her take care of the problem when it arose.
 

kami333

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Dec 12, 2001
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Often times collection agencies are easier to work with (negotiate for a lower amount and payment for deletion, etc) than the original creditor.
 

futuristicmonkey

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Edit: I didn't notice there were 70 posts in this thread.

To the OP: I hope this works out in the end for you. Fucking scammers.
 
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Cuda1447

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Search for the word "fee" on that page and it comes up, specifically:


The way they put it seems like you'd only have to pay the fee if you accept - but I'm not a lying son of a - I mean - a lawyer.



Yea, I realize it does say we'd have to pay. I'm not disputing the fact that they don't make mention of the fee. Here are the problems I have with the situation.


1. A fee of that size you would think would be listed outside of the TOS (wall of text). She had no inclination that there was a fee and as such did not ctrl + F for those words.

2. They accepted the card for her, even when she told them they did not want the card.

3. In Florida, charging advance fee's for searching/securing loans is illegal. Since she did not accept the card and they were going to charge her the fee regardless of her acceptance of the card, it is essentially an advanced fee.

4. When they sent her collection notices they worded it in a very aggressive/extortionistic manner.

5. On one of the collection notices they sent her it has the wrong name. Clearly the company is very unorganized everything is being run wildly.


All in all, I've already decided I will not be paying the $150. If I thought they were legit and this was truly our faults, sure I'd pay up. But this company makes its money off of deceptive business practices, lying and extortion. I will not pay money to a company like that, period.



Oh wow, I just went to their mainsite, acquiredloans.net and the last sentence on the site.

"There is no application fee, or collateral required, you don’t have to be a homeowner to be eligible, and you’re not obligated to accept any offer we may secure on your behalf."

Are you fucking joking me? It says right there that there is no application fee. They are simply playing semantic games.
 
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bobdole369

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Dec 15, 2004
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The way I read this... unless I'm misinterpreting something, is that a company (outside of bank/credit union, which these guys are definitely not) cannot charge a fee for securing a loan.

It is an increeeedibly shady deal here. It is absolutely true that it is "illegal" for any company to charge a fee to secure a loan.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen every single day. My buddy was looking for a loan to help some finances out a few years back, and he had western union paperwork ready to go and $300 for advanced finance charges. Woah woah woah WOAH! buddy. Saved him the $300 cuz the "company" ceased to exist not 6 weeks later.

It's a scam through and through.

The worst case here is that a "default" goes on your wifes credit report, damages you guys, you sue the company involved and make a bloody fortune on the FCRA and FDCPA violations.

Contact an FCRA friendly lawyer and see what he suspects is going on. Thats the best way to handle something like this.
 

bobdole369

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Dec 15, 2004
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1. A fee of that size you would think would be listed outside of the TOS (wall of text). She had no inclination that there was a fee and as such did not ctrl + F for those words.
You'd think, yup, doesn't mean jack though and isn't relevant. It is there.

2. They accepted the card for her, even when she told them they did not want the card.
Shady as fuck yeah. Doesn't mean anything though. Accounts are opened and closed all the time.

3. In Florida, charging advance fee's for searching/securing loans is illegal. Since she did not accept the card and they were going to charge her the fee regardless of her acceptance of the card, it is essentially an advanced fee.
Thats pretty much true anywhere. You think too much about it though. It doesn't matter if she "accepts" the card or not. Do you think a consumer "accepts" an account opened by a collection agency for bad debt?

4. When they sent her collection notices they worded it in a very aggressive/extortionistic manner.
Irrelevant. Read the FDCPA to see what they can and cannot do. There should be specific wording in a number of notices. If the original creditor is acting as a collection agency specifically. If its simply collecting on its own account, there is another set of rules.
5. On one of the collection notices they sent her it has the wrong name. Clearly the company is very unorganized everything is being run wildly.
Irrelevant. CA's are scumbags and you seem to have gotten the worst. :/ Sucks. The wrong name is not indicative of anything but a "typo". It has to get into a courtroom for it to even matter.

All in all, I've already decided I will not be paying the $150. If I thought they were legit and this was truly our faults, sure I'd pay up. But this company makes its money off of deceptive business practices, lying and extortion. I will not pay money to a company like that, period.

Good choice.

Read up on "full cease and desist" or "limited cease and desist" strategies for debtors.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cease+and+desist+for+debtor

You should get to a site like infinitecredit.com to learn more about the credit and collections world. Information is power.
 

nick1985

Lifer
Dec 29, 2002
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Again, they will change their tune pretty fucking fast when the state Attorney General, the BBB, and a private lawyer start calling them and mailing them letters. They will forget about that $150 so fast it will make their heads spin.


You can report them to the FTC as well as the above agencies. Pressure from all fronts!

http://www.ftc.gov/
 
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