Crucial DDR4 in December!

[BubbaJoe TBoneMalone]

RAM going DDR4 starting next month - http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2013/11/16/ram_going_ddr4_starting_next_month

Crucial DDR4 SDRAM Memory Shipping Before Years End - http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/crucial-ddr4-sdram-memory-shipping-before-years-end-18-11-2013/

Crucial Claims Faster, Lower Power DDR4 Memory Could Ship Before Year End - http://hothardware.com/News/Crucial...Power-DDR4-Memory-Could-Ship-Before-Year-End/

Hope Anand's team gets a motherboard to test Crucial's DDR4.

Also patiently waiting for SATA Express (up to 2GB/s). Muahahaha!

 

[zebrax2]

Are there even any consumer board and processors that can use DDR4 that is available now or within 2 months?

 

[R0H1T]

RAM going DDR4 starting next month - http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2013/11/16/ram_going_ddr4_starting_next_month

Crucial DDR4 SDRAM Memory Shipping Before Years End - http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/crucial-ddr4-sdram-memory-shipping-before-years-end-18-11-2013/

Crucial Claims Faster, Lower Power DDR4 Memory Could Ship Before Year End - http://hothardware.com/News/Crucial...Power-DDR4-Memory-Could-Ship-Before-Year-End/

Hope Anand's team gets a motherboard to test Crucial's DDR4.

Also patiently waiting for SATA Express (up to 2GB/s). Muahahaha!

I doubt there are any consumer level boards with support for DDR4, some server based models may have support for DDR4 but even then it'll be high end Xeon only.

Are there even any consumer board and processors that can use DDR4 that is available now or within 2 months?

Nope, not for another 6~9 months, I guess Haswell E would be the first consumer platform supporting it.

 

[fleshconsumed]

I am still pissed at Crucial for their DDR2 failure. I bought so much of that Crucial Ballistix DDR2 ram on various sales and pretty much every single stick failed. I RMA'd 4 sticks, and those are failing again in one of my Core2Quad rigs. What's more frustrating they fail in very non obvious ways. I can't get them to fail with memtest86, but they give me errors inside windows, like failing to extract rar archive that I know is good, or failing checksum verification when I know the file is good because it passes on another computer. And the same rigs work fine if I use non ballistix ram. I still have 8 x 2GB sticks and 4 x 1GB sticks. AFAIK crucial has lifetime warranty, I should probably RMA all of those just to remind them how much it sucks to have faulty ram... sigh... yes, I'm mad.

 

[AViking]

I haven't had crucial memory in a long time but they used to definitely have lifetime warranty and they exchanged the memory no problem.

 

[aigomorla]

unless this comes out for has-e

this is fail..

telling consumers to buy premium priced ram cuz its new, along with a new board for almost no visually performance increase is FAIL.

its like LGA775 and DDR3 repeat all over again.

This isnt like going from mechanical to a SSD.

 

[86waterpumper]

for those using integrated video this will be far from a fail...
anyway, eventually everything will go ddr4. Everybody said the same thing about ddr3 when it first came out...the first implementations of things are always not as good as later on. For those with a dedicated video card this won't mean much, but then neither does buying this high spec 2400 and up mhz ddr3 that is out right now...and people seem to be happy enough to do that

 

[Name User]

I am still pissed at Crucial for their DDR2 failure. I bought so much of that Crucial Ballistix DDR2 ram on various sales and pretty much every single stick failed. I RMA'd 4 sticks, and those are failing again in one of my Core2Quad rigs. What's more frustrating they fail in very non obvious ways. I can't get them to fail with memtest86, but they give me errors inside windows, like failing to extract rar archive that I know is good, or failing checksum verification when I know the file is good because it passes on another computer. And the same rigs work fine if I use non ballistix ram. I still have 8 x 2GB sticks and 4 x 1GB sticks. AFAIK crucial has lifetime warranty, I should probably RMA all of those just to remind them how much it sucks to have faulty ram... sigh... yes, I'm mad.

Yup, their RMA experience was great but what would really be great is not having to use it.

Ballistix were such garbage, after 5 or 6 RMAs I just had them give me regular sticks without the heatspreaders. Those regular old green PCB sticks have worked fine for 4 years now.

If a company could screw something like that up so bad, even with multiple revisions, then I'm staying away from them. I don't know if it was the heatspreaders or what, but I'd sooner buy Beats by Dre branded ram than another Crucial set.

 

[86waterpumper]

sounds like crucial should just stick to regular oem replacement and add on ram...that is what I always used to use them for, I don't know how many people I sent to them to upgrade their netbooks...back when those were big. We have used them at work to upgrade laptops too. Their sodimms seem to be good I don't know of a single failure. Maybe the enthusiast market isn't for them...

 

[videoclone]

Xbone should have used DDR4.. so strange they went DDR3

 

[CRCSUX]

Xbone should have used DDR4.. so strange they went DDR3

Price maybe?

 

[aigomorla]

anyone who complains about ballistix ram without knowing what ballastix ram is like saying why is my ferrari dying so much when im putting in regular gasoline?

Huh? what do you mean Indy class racing parts?


(here's a clue why ballastix ram died so much... they were factory overclocked... why? because they were lighting fast compared to the competition... sure they did die if u didnt go OVERKILL on the cooling... however if u knew exactly what ballastix ram were, and knew how to take care of them, im pretty sure ur death rate would of been reduced to 10% of what u saw.... Meaning adjust voltage down... loosen up the timings use larger mem dividers so u dont run the ram at uber high speed... basically dont leave it at stock where its uber overclocked... )

I am speaking from experience with ballastix RAM.... i agree towards the end i hated them too because of the overkill cooling requirements needed to keep them ALIVE for long periods of time.

i have had my fair share of them, the entire right side is crucial micron chips... and towards the end when i knew what exactly they were, the deaths on them stopped.
Infact i still got 2x2GB tracers running happy and fine nonstop still without any problems on one of my public systems i have in the living room.
Of course it had a fan sitting ontop if it since i installed them day 1...

 

[mindbomb]

Xbone should have used DDR4.. so strange they went DDR3

jaguar doesn't support ddr4

 

[Eug]

anyone who complains about ballistix ram without knowing what ballastix ram is like saying why is my ferrari dying so much when im putting in regular gasoline?

That analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

(here's a clue why ballastix ram died so much... they were factory overclocked... why? because they were lighting fast compared to the competition... sure they did die if u didnt go OVERKILL on the cooling... however if u knew exactly what ballastix ram were, and knew how to take care of them, im pretty sure ur death rate would of been reduced to 10% of what u saw.... Meaning adjust voltage down... loosen up the timings use larger mem dividers so u dont run the ram at uber high speed... basically dont leave it at stock where its uber overclocked... )

If consumer RAM can't survive normal consumer cooling at default settings, then it should not be sold as such.

 

[Name User]

I'd rather have slower ram and secure data than faster ram and corrupt data. Would have been different if Crucial actually advertised Ballistix as OVERCLOCK YOUR MOMS PHOTOS AND SLAM DUNK THEM INTO THE TOILET TO THE EXTREME, ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE FOR ADEQUATE COOLING?

 

[NTMBK]

jaguar doesn't support ddr4

Jaguar supports whatever memory you add a memory controller for. The PS4 has GDDR5.

 

[Cerb]

Jaguar supports whatever memory you add a memory controller for. The PS4 has GDDR5.

Where "you" is AMD, who has made combo DDR3/GDDR5 controllers for quite some time, now. They didn't make it with DDR4 support.

 

[fleshconsumed]

anyone who complains about ballistix ram without knowing what ballastix ram is like saying why is my ferrari dying so much when im putting in regular gasoline?

Huh? what do you mean Indy class racing parts?


(here's a clue why ballastix ram died so much... they were factory overclocked... why? because they were lighting fast compared to the competition... sure they did die if u didnt go OVERKILL on the cooling... however if u knew exactly what ballastix ram were, and knew how to take care of them, im pretty sure ur death rate would of been reduced to 10% of what u saw.... Meaning adjust voltage down... loosen up the timings use larger mem dividers so u dont run the ram at uber high speed... basically dont leave it at stock where its uber overclocked... )

BS. Ballistix ram was the biggest turd of a ram I have ever touched. The ram I bought was rated at DDR2-800 at 2.2 volts. Since I didn't overclock, I ran it at DDR2-667 at 2.0 volts. I ran it way under specs and it still died.

That ram was a turd because it couldn't even run at its advertised specs without dying. It was doubly turd since it died while running under specs. Oh, and I totally forgot, I built my sister computer and I used HP ram with Crucial chips, guess what, those also died. And that ram was definitely not sold as overclocking ram.

I know it was long time ago, but I'm still using that damn ballistix on my C2Q DDR2 rigs because putting any more money into C2Q rigs is just silly. I got on the Microcenter 4770K deal yesterday so I will finally retire those C2Q rigs in a couple of weeks, but I'm still going to try and RMA all the Ballistix RAM that I have just for the heck of it.

 

[John Connor]

I had Ballistex DDR RAM in my old Pentium 4 Dell and had no trouble.

 

[Name User]

BS. Ballistix ram was the biggest turd of a ram I have ever touched. The ram I bought was rated at DDR2-800 at 2.2 volts. Since I didn't overclock, I ran it at DDR2-667 at 2.0 volts. I ran it way under specs and it still died.

That ram was a turd because it couldn't even run at its advertised specs without dying. It was doubly turd since it died while running under specs. Oh, and I totally forgot, I built my sister computer and I used HP ram with Crucial chips, guess what, those also died. And that ram was definitely not sold as overclocking ram.

I know it was long time ago, but I'm still using that damn ballistix on my C2Q DDR2 rigs because putting any more money into C2Q rigs is just silly. I got on the Microcenter 4770K deal yesterday so I will finally retire those C2Q rigs in a couple of weeks, but I'm still going to try and RMA all the Ballistix RAM that I have just for the heck of it.

Hahaha I'm in exactly your situation with the C2Q not being worth it and also bought the 4770K deal.

With the disappointing prices in Ram I had to choose between G Skill, which look like a transformer happy meal toy, and Ballistix.

Well, I went way over budget on this system already so that's right, despite what I said above I still grabbed the Ballistix. We'll see if they hold up, I already see people saying that the voltage needs to be raised for them to be stable. Still it's a $70 difference between this set and the Mushkins I was looking at, so whatever. I'm not setting myself up for another 5 years of bullshit though, if these fail I'll just sell them after RMA.

Here's the deal if you have a deathwish like I do:

http://slickdeals.net/f/6453072-cru...am-ddr3-1600-pc3-12800-desktop-memory-109-99?

After we got that insane 4770K deal it's just impossible to spend almost $200 on ram, I had to cheap out.

Edit: Sorry this is only somewhat ontopic, but it's kind of a matter of principle if you're willing to go with a manufacturer for a whole new generation of potential problems.

 

[Soulkeeper]

samsung is ready to ship too
I don't have the article handy, but they are essentially stockpiling ddr4 I believe

Personally, I think waiting for ddr4 is a good idea for my next build.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Xbone should have used DDR4.. so strange they went DDR3

Due to cost. And DDR4 would have destroyed that cost advantage.

The memory for the PS4 is 88$ for the chips alone in wholesale price.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Here's the deal if you have a deathwish like I do:

http://slickdeals.net/f/6453072-cru...am-ddr3-1600-pc3-12800-desktop-memory-109-99?

After we got that insane 4770K deal it's just impossible to spend almost $200 on ram, I had to cheap out.

Edit: Sorry this is only somewhat ontopic, but it's kind of a matter of principle if you're willing to go with a manufacturer for a whole new generation of potential problems.

I'm good for RAM right now. I stockpiled on Samsung Magic DDR3 last year (got 32GB total) because the prices were so good even though I had zero computers that could use it yet. I felt almost guilty spending money on stuff I couldn't use, but it turns out it was a good buy.

Yes, we're kind of offtopic, but given how many days, yes, days, I have spent troubleshooting the stupid ballistix ram I'm extremely apprehensive trusting it again.

 

[aigomorla]

That analogy makes no sense whatsoever.
If consumer RAM can't survive normal consumer cooling at default settings, then it should not be sold as such.

i agree with you but at the same time, things which are ramp'd up way past what they are suposed to will not LAST.

Everyone knew these were 1.9V modules which crucial was overvolting to 2.2
You cant tell me you didnt know that, because then you didnt do any research when you went to buy parts.
The only reason why u bought them was for overclocking because they were the only type of ram which could handle the high fsb a C2D / C2Q were pumping out until the conception of DDR3.

I'd rather have slower ram and secure data than faster ram and corrupt data. Would have been different if Crucial actually advertised Ballistix as OVERCLOCK YOUR MOMS PHOTOS AND SLAM DUNK THEM INTO THE TOILET TO THE EXTREME, ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE FOR ADEQUATE COOLING?

Thats EXACTLY how balastix were labeled.
Why did you buy them?
Oh yea so u could get those HIGH FSB on a budget CPU while maintaining a mem divider...

Did u forget that? Because if i recall i had problems with hynix and other vendors when i wanted to get those oh so beautiful 3.6ghz+ numbers on my Cpu.

BS. Ballistix ram was the biggest turd of a ram I have ever touched. The ram I bought was rated at DDR2-800 at 2.2 volts. Since I didn't overclock, I ran it at DDR2-667 at 2.0 volts. I ran it way under specs and it still died.

1.9V!!!!!

NOT 2.0... NOT 1.95 NOT 2.1 where most people ran them.

1.9V
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM

According to JEDEC[1] the maximum recommended voltage is 1.9 volts and should be considered the absolute maximum when memory stability is an issue (such as in servers or other mission critical devices).

Thats how much they were factory overclocked...
Thats why they died so fast.
Thats why they heated up like no tomorrow.

This info isnt new people...
Your ranting about something which was slatted to die unless u did intervention on your own end.

No one in the right sense of mind would overvolt 1.5V ddr to 1.8V...
But this is what crucial did... and if u didnt change the values yourself, it would die like how they did...
And since ram had lifetime warrenty no one really cared to learn what the product was until you killed one, and then i hope you learned what they were and fixed it.

But we all knew this... people are playing like this is totally new info...
If someone told u to overvolt your DDR3 to 1.8 what would you tell them?
If you saw a VENDOR now overvolt there DDR3 to 1.8v what would you do?

This is why i tell people if ur complaining about balastix dying.. well, you really didnt know what balastix were...
Because if u did, you would of accepted them dying and had backups for the chips when they did die, so you could have a spare while RMA was being taken care of.
Because again, you knew they were ticking bombs due to the spec's they were listed at being way outside JEDEC's specs.

 

[Tsavo]

I hear tell that Evergreen is going to offer DDR4 adapter kits for DDR3 motherboards.

Get a few, and roll in style.