Crucial DDR4 in December!

[piasabird]

It is good to have a motherboard with DDR4 first.

 

[fleshconsumed]

1.9V!!!!!

NOT 2.0... NOT 1.95 NOT 2.1 where most people ran them.

1.9V
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM


Thats how much they were factory overclocked...
Thats why they died so fast.
Thats why they heated up like no tomorrow.

This info isnt new people...
Your ranting about something which was slatted to die unless u did intervention on your own end.

No one in the right sense of mind would overvolt 1.5V ddr to 1.8V...
But this is what crucial did... and if u didnt change the values yourself, it would die like how they did.
But we all knew this... people are playing like this is totally new info...
If someone told u to overvolt your DDR3 to 1.8 what would you tell them?
If you saw a VENDOR now overvolt there DDR3 to 1.8v what would you do?

This is why i tell people if ur complaining about balastix dying.. well, you really didnt know what balastix were...
Because if u did, you would of accepted them dying and had backups for the chips when they did die, so you could have a spare while RMA was being taken care of.

I know about JEDEC and I know about the 1.8V nominal/1.9V maximum stable voltage.

Here's the thing you seem to be missing. I did not buy this ram from JEDEC. I bought it from Crucial. I bought it from Crucial who advertised it as working at 800MHz speed at 2.2 volts. And it failed, while running way under advertised specs.

And if you want to quote JEDEC specifications from Wikipedia, here's what Wikipedia says about DDR2 voltage: "In addition, JEDEC states that memory modules must withstand up to 2.3 volts before incurring permanent damage (although they may not actually function correctly at that level)." According to the JEDEC that you threw in my face Crucial Ballistix sticks should have never failed because I never ran them at 2.3V, not even 2.2V they were specced for, I only ran them at 2.0 volts, and yet they still failed, catastrophically. Crucial couldn't even make the RAM that adhered to JEDEC requirements.

 

[aigomorla]

I know about JEDEC and I know about the 1.8V nominal/1.9V maximum stable voltage.

Here's the thing you seem to be missing. I did not buy this ram from JEDEC. I bought it from Crucial. I bought it from Crucial who advertised it as working at 800MHz speed at 2.2 volts. And it failed, while running way under advertised specs.

And if you want to quote JEDEC specifications from Wikipedia, here's what Wikipedia says about DDR2 voltage: "In addition, JEDEC states that memory modules must withstand up to 2.3 volts before incurring permanent damage (although they may not actually function correctly at that level)." According to the JEDEC that you threw in my face Crucial Ballistix sticks should have never failed because I never ran them at 2.3V, not even 2.2V they was specced for, I only ran them at 2.0 volts, and yet they did fail, catastrophically. Crucial couldn't even make the RAM that adhered to JEDEC requirements.

Again, if you knew what micron d9's were, i think you would of had a different mentality...

I can understand if it was your first ram chip, and not knowing what true ram voltages were in that era.
Even i fell into ignorance am totally guilty of killing a couple... i had to do at least 4 RMAs.
After that i kinda assumed oh its going to die and i will have my 5th, and 6th, and 7th RMA to come... I already knew this...

Im sure 75% of the micron d9 owners also knew this... their ram was gonna die...

But u guys are ranting on why something being pushed to the edges of extreme is dying fast... and then blaming the vendor..
We asked for ram that fast, we wanted those ultra low super pi numbers.
The vendor gave us just that, but took the hard end in undershooting the durability of the ram greatly.
Yes i agree with you on it being a OOPS from the vendor, they asked more then they could chew, however they did honor all RMA's.

And i dont think its fair to compare Micron D9 chips to today's DDR3 and even this DDR4 standards.

 

[Name User]

Again, if you knew what micron d9's were

No one besides mouthbreathing manbeard basement goblins know what the hell micron d9s are.

Crucial is a gigantic company that sells a product for the masses, the masses know two things:

1) Computer needs ram
2) ram needs to work

Also can you tell me what voltage and settings I'm supposed to run these at so they don't share the same fate?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16820148545&cm_sp=

The Ballistix Sport Series was created for mainstream users and enthusiasts. These gaming modules feature heat spreaders for thermal performance-along with standard timings and voltages, making this a reliable, quality RAM option that is ideal for maximum stability and compatibility.

Am I supposed to google page 10 of some thread on extremeoverclockerz.co.nz so some turdman can tell me to up the volts and adjust the timings according to air pressure and humidity? Am I supposed to decode the serial number and convert a string of characters to hexadecimal and piglatin to find out the batch number like 70% of consumers? I'd like to find out in advance if possible.

 

[Cerb]

Am I supposed to google page 10 of some thread on extremeoverclockerz.co.nz so some turdman can tell me to up the volts and adjust the timings according to air pressure and humidity? Am I supposed to decode the serial number and convert a string of characters to hexadecimal and piglatin to find out the batch number like 70% of consumers? I'd like to find out in advance if possible.

No. You're supposed to get an RMA if the product fails, and get it replaced. Knowing that won't be too hard to do, and that the turn-around will be fairly quick, is part of why you might buy Crucial gear in the first place. Did you ever try taking them up on their warranty?

If I swore off every company that screwed something up, I wouldn't be able to buy consumer-level computers or parts from any company more than a couple years old. It's how often they screw up, and how they handle it when it happens, that matters.

No one besides mouthbreathing manbeard basement goblins know what the hell micron d9s are.

Crucial is a gigantic company that sells a product for the masses, the masses know two things:

1. That Dell makes computers.
2. That they wanted Microsoft, and their computer didn't come with it (by which they almost always mean Office), or it came with it but now it's gone (their OEM trial period expired).

If you are buying overclocking parts, you are far, far away from being part of the masses, anymore.

 

[HalloweenJack]

suwhilst its great to have consumer DDR4 - wont the boards and chips to support not come along till 2015?

 

[Soulkeeper]

compared to the transition between pc133->ddr->ddr2->ddr3
ddr4 has taken awhile

 

[fleshconsumed]

Again, if you knew what micron d9's were, i think you would of had a different mentality...

I can understand if it was your first ram chip, and not knowing what true ram voltages were in that era.
Even i fell into ignorance am totally guilty of killing a couple... i had to do at least 4 RMAs.
After that i kinda assumed oh its going to die and i will have my 5th, and 6th, and 7th RMA to come... I already knew this...

Im sure 75% of the micron d9 owners also knew this... their ram was gonna die...

But u guys are ranting on why something being pushed to the edges of extreme is dying fast... and then blaming the vendor..
We asked for ram that fast, we wanted those ultra low super pi numbers.
The vendor gave us just that, but took the hard end in undershooting the durability of the ram greatly.
Yes i agree with you on it being a OOPS from the vendor, they asked more then they could chew, however they did honor all RMA's.

And i dont think its fair to compare Micron D9 chips to today's DDR3 and even this DDR4 standards.

Bottom line is that Crucial sold ram that:
1. Failed to meet JEDEC specs because it sustained permanent damage while running under 2.3V
2. Failed while running way under its own advertised specs.

Why is false advertisment so difficult to understand? And no, 75% of the D9 owners did not know their RAM was going to die until it was too late and everybody bought one already.