Cruz. Trump. Rubio. Katich. But Cruz? Oh My

[sportage]

As bad as Trump is, I can not believe republicans would rally around Ted Cruz.
Rallying round Trump makes more sense than Cruz.
Donald Trump might be nutz, but Ted Cruz is religious zealot nutz.
Which BTW, would be MUCH worse.

Definition, Religious Zealot: Anyone who takes a religious belief to the extreme and attempts to push their beliefs on others.

I would think republicans more terrorized of a president Ted Cruz than a president Donald Trump.
And face it. It is Donald that generates the interest drawing in more republicans.
If this were only Cruz, Mario and Katich, republican interest and turnout out would be similar to democrat interest and turnout. Low.
Does the republican establishment really believe Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are generating all of this new party energy?

A candidate Trump might give Hillary or Bernie a run for their money in November, but would Americans really want to change our entire way of life, change our entire society into that of a third world religious Islamic form of government with electing an president Cruz?
Where everything in government, our law and our personal Constitutional freedoms to be weighted against some leaders singular personal religious belief?

Donald might be scary, but Ted is down right terrifying.
And once again, republicans and that establishment are making a HUGE mistake with even considering a president Ted Cruz.
Donald they could probably live with, and survive to see another day.

True... Trump is a buffoon but Trump is an American capitalist buffoon.
Ted Cruz would transform America into a carbon copy of your choice of Middle Eastern third world country.
Hell... Cruz has not accomplished one single thing in government. Positive or negative.
All of Ted's efforts have been negative and destructive, but even with that they have all failed.
Ted can't even do anything wrong, right.

If the republican party is in fact self destructing, a Ted Cruz would be the better proof of that more so than a Donald Trump.
At least crazy Don has built something, created some jobs, and wallowed in that capitalistic American dream. Where as Ted Cruz has done nothing except threatened to damage our capitalistic society and Constitution with every chance he got.
Is the republican establishment about to align with the devil itself? Ted Cruz?

PS.
Interesting too, never before in history has American interest with migrating to Canada been so high.
Not surprised here....

 

[elitejp]

The only thing I can tell from your post is that you dont support a president who has religious views. Thats fine because you get to put a vote in the ballot box and choose who you want just like everyone else. But what evidence outside of "this is how I feel or this is what I think" do you have that makes you believe Cruz is trying to force Christianity on anyone?

 

[compuwiz1]

I think Trump has a better shot at being POTUS, for the reasons you are against Cruz, whom I don't care for, personally. He's too rigid in his views, too extreme and uses religion, which isn't going to go over with mainstream voters. There is a place for religion, but politics and government aren't a place. Someone must see through him, as Trump has been beating him, even with the evangelicals. Trump has broader appeal and has been valuable in getting the repubs out to vote. Trump can draw independents and has been drawing some democrats as well. Cruz relies on rigid conservatives and I don't think that's gonna work out well.

BTW, I don't have a problem with a candidate declaring that they are a Christian, just don't hammer us with it at every turn.

 

[sportage]

The only thing I can tell from your post is that you dont support a president who has religious views. Thats fine because you get to put a vote in the ballot box and choose who you want just like everyone else. But what evidence outside of "this is how I feel or this is what I think" do you have that makes you believe Cruz is trying to force Christianity on anyone?

Are you serious?
For one, Cruz demands a US Supreme court that is held accountable by Christian standards.
That might be all fine and dandy, but Ted's concept of religious standards comes down to his personal religious litmus test.
Ted proposes doing away with the separation between church and state.
And any US Supreme Court that disagrees with president Cruz and this religious litmus test Cruz would attack and insist be replaced and their ruing legally ignored.

Ted believes HE would nominate and install only justices that in line rule with Ted's personal religious beliefs.
And should they not?
Well, US republican house representative house Ted Cruz can't so much about that.
But what about a president Cruz?

Again, are you serious?
Ted has made it quite clear, he believes the US Supreme court should not have the last say in law and with decisions. God should have the last word.

No one minds a president with sound religious morals and beliefs.
But so far in our history of elected presidential leaders, none actually elected have been full blown religious zealots insisting all law guided only by religious litmus testing.

This is not a matter of simple religion. This a matter of a zealot seeking the residency.
Is that not as anti American as one can get? And against our very beliefs as a free nation under the US Constitution?
Have you even listened to Ted Cruz speak? Follow what he believes and desires to do as president? His comments after Supreme court rulings?

There is a HUGE difference between views, and some zealot's religious litmus test.

 

[sandorski]

The only thing I can tell from your post is that you dont support a president who has religious views. Thats fine because you get to put a vote in the ballot box and choose who you want just like everyone else. But what evidence outside of "this is how I feel or this is what I think" do you have that makes you believe Cruz is trying to force Christianity on anyone?

A taste of why

 

[fourdegrees11]

nvm

 

[compuwiz1]

nvm

Oh, come in, the water's fine.

 

[fourdegrees11]

Cruz might be hardcore religious but I think his stance has been to apply the constitution to the country.

The 1st amendment, 10th amendment, and Article VI are clear on how religion can and cant be applied. The states will be allowed to govern as intended. That is the platform Cruz is running on.

Posting a video of Cruz's father shows how out of whack with reality hardcore religious people can be, but that isnt Ted Cruz.

 

[elitejp]

Sportage, I actually hvent heard him speak and thats mainly because im out of the country and my access to news is many times blocked such as the link sandorski posted. I cant open it.

Some of those things Cruz is for I dont have a problem with others I can see where one would take issue. For example every POTUS is going to appoint judges whom he likes. Thats nothing new. So that would be something that I would have to accept with every president. I do have a problem with going against the constitution. Unfortunately again that seems to be a problem with many of the presidents we have had and have. You might be surprised how many things Obama has done to support the muslim faith while actively going against christian faith.

The "separation of church and state" which you refer to actually isnt in the constitution. What the constitution does say is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Unfortunately we already have presidents doing this.

 

[Blanky]

As bad as Trump is, I can not believe republicans would rally around Ted Cruz.
Rallying round Trump makes more sense than Cruz.
Donald Trump might be nutz, but Ted Cruz is religious zealot nutz.
Which BTW, would be MUCH worse.

Definition, Religious Zealot: Anyone who takes a religious belief to the extreme and attempts to push their beliefs on others.

I would think republicans more terrorized of a president Ted Cruz than a president Donald Trump.
And face it. It is Donald that generates the interest drawing in more republicans.
If this were only Cruz, Mario and Katich, republican interest and turnout out would be similar to democrat interest and turnout. Low.
Does the republican establishment really believe Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are generating all of this new party energy?

A candidate Trump might give Hillary or Bernie a run for their money in November, but would Americans really want to change our entire way of life, change our entire society into that of a third world religious Islamic form of government with electing an president Cruz?
Where everything in government, our law and our personal Constitutional freedoms to be weighted against some leaders singular personal religious belief?

Donald might be scary, but Ted is down right terrifying.
And once again, republicans and that establishment are making a HUGE mistake with even considering a president Ted Cruz.
Donald they could probably live with, and survive to see another day.

True... Trump is a buffoon but Trump is an American capitalist buffoon.
Ted Cruz would transform America into a carbon copy of your choice of Middle Eastern third world country.
Hell... Cruz has not accomplished one single thing in government. Positive or negative.
All of Ted's efforts have been negative and destructive, but even with that they have all failed.
Ted can't even do anything wrong, right.

If the republican party is in fact self destructing, a Ted Cruz would be the better proof of that more so than a Donald Trump.
At least crazy Don has built something, created some jobs, and wallowed in that capitalistic American dream. Where as Ted Cruz has done nothing except threatened to damage our capitalistic society and Constitution with every chance he got.
Is the republican establishment about to align with the devil itself? Ted Cruz?

PS.
Interesting too, never before in history has American interest with migrating to Canada been so high.
Not surprised here....

I'm sure republicans really appreciate your thoughtful and benevolent analysis of all their candidates. It's clear you have their best interests at heart and would give a genuine consideration to any republican candidate. Nobody for a moment thinks you're trying to poison the well and would speak ill of any and all who would rise to prominence.

 

[trenchfoot]

Ted Cruz's bonafide Tea Party pedigree, the party that also nurtured the likes of Palin and those nut jobs like Bachmann from the Class of Crazies of 2010-12 is all I have to consider when deciding who to vote for.

It speaks volumes that the Tea Party Caucus has been marginalized, inactivated and mostly ignored by the Party Proper, as well it should.

Ted, being an integral and influential plank owner of said caucus should be treated the same way that particular body politic has been.

He owes his being elected to that "movement" and has not been called out on it. Those venomous diatribes that he preached to that seemingly rabies-infected base that now belong to Trump have not surfaced yet, but will, inevitably so.

Explaining a change of heart from the extreme ultra-right wing stances he took to get elected in order to appease and calm the concerns of moderates and independents is going to be neigh on impossible.

Good luck with that, Ted.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Cruz is a weasel. Even his wife doesn't seem to like him very much:

There's another angle here with the weasel's eye is looking to make sure the camera is getting the shot:
http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/heidi...ly-citizenship-president-job-photos-children/

 

[michal1980]

Cruz is a weasel. Even his wife doesn't seem to like him very much:

There's another angle here with the weasel's eye is looking to make sure the camera is getting the shot:
http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/heidi...ly-citizenship-president-job-photos-children/

Really? You get that from that?

Bill hates Hillary then, he had an intern blow him in the white house.

guess you wont be voting for her then.

 

[trenchfoot]

Cruz is a weasel. Even his wife doesn't seem to like him very much:

There's another angle here with the weasel's eye is looking to make sure the camera is getting the shot:
http://heavy.com/news/2015/03/heidi...ly-citizenship-president-job-photos-children/

Yuk.

And I hate you for sticking that image in my brain.

 

[elitejp]

Ya I think I made up my mind. After seeing that picture I just cant vote for him. Because thats whats important in deciding for an election

 

[soulcougher73]

A taste of why

Ugh. This is exactly why we demand separation of nut and state. I love how they always conveniently forget our country was founded from fleeing this very thing lol

 

[Jaskalas]

Yeah, I get the feeling Ted Cruz may have set foot in a Church at some point. His father's a pastor. Is there a reason to hold this against him?

But his entire shtick is small government conservatism. It's hope that there can be an anti-Bush. Otherwise we might as well burn down and destroy the entirety of the GOP. Ted Cruz is a hope that there's still someone decent among them who believes in the founding principles of America and will FIGHT to apply them today. Voter turnout? I refused to vote for Neocons McCain and Romney. Any establishment candidate is going to lose votes.

Maybe a worthy candidate is a fairy tale, but it's all we've got in 2016.

 

[Hugo Drax]

The Ted Cruz voters have a lot in common with Radical Islamists. They want a Church controlled society where the Church sets the rules and punishments.

There is a scary number of Radical Christians in this country that would rule not that much different then ISIS. I would not be surprised his wife hates him and is only there for the power/money. Women to them are the equivalent of cattle.

A ted nomination is a 100% guaranteed Hillary win.

 

[HomerJS]

Cruz might be hardcore religious but I think his stance has been to apply the constitution to the country.

The 1st amendment, 10th amendment, and Article VI are clear on how religion can and cant be applied. The states will be allowed to govern as intended. That is the platform Cruz is running on.

Posting a video of Cruz's father shows how out of whack with reality hardcore religious people can be, but that isnt Ted Cruz.

The President will nominate a JOTSC. The Senate will advise and consent.....oh yeah maybe Ted doesn't really want to follow the constitution

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The Ted Cruz voters have a lot in common with Radical Islamists. They want a Church controlled society where the Church sets the rules and punishments.

There is a scary number of Radical Christians in this country that would rule not that much different then ISIS. I would not be surprised his wife hates him and is only there for the power/money. Women to them are the equivalent of cattle.

A ted nomination is a 100% guaranteed Hillary win.

The scary thing is that's not guaranteed at all. Cruz not only has the religious zealots, he'll also get the financial elites lined up behind him. Get those two groups energized together and couple it with Hillary's almost superhuman ability to suck enthusiasm from her base and a president Cruz could be a very real thing.

 

[Pardus]

Donald Trump said last night in his victory speech, "I want to congratulate Ted on Maine and on Kansas, he should do well in Maine, because it's very close to Canada, let's face it."

 

[kage69]

Donald Trump said last night in his victory speech, "I want to congratulate Ted on Maine and on Kansas, he should do well in Maine, because it's very close to Canada, let's face it."

Some Palin humor right there, well played orange man! Also funny: that Trump still reminds people of this birther nonsense.

 

[zinfamous]

Ted Cruz is the real nightmare of the bunch. It's weird that Drumpf would be less of a disaster, but it's true.

Donald Trump said last night in his victory speech, "I want to congratulate Ted on Maine and on Kansas, he should do well in Maine, because it's very close to Canada, let's face it."

That's pretty good.

 

[sportage]

You know how this works...
First Donald, the front runner, is pounced upon and squashed like a bug.
Queue the video, all 10,000 hours of it.

Then, Cruz rises as Trump falls.
In this case, all that is needed are the many reprehensible quotes Cruz made here and there.
Cruz has been vetted to an extent, republicans just forgot that fact.
And forgot the video exists.
And forgot they were sickened just as much as everyone else over what Ted thought and said. But they'll all be reminded soon enough.
Lindsey Graham remembered, for a second or two, then he too forgot or preferred to ignore what he remembered.

I hate to advise republicans but seriously kids, Donald Trump would be the better bet over Ted Cruz.
And then I wonder if republicans have simply accepted Hillary will be the next president, and Ted Cruz is their Mitt Romney or Bob Dole? That fill-in guy.

 

[crisium]

His image as a small federal government, strict constitutionalist is what is important. That you only see his religion is telling; that despite these views that show Ted Cruz desires a federal government that tells the people less about what to do than presently, you equate Cruz to enacting a Christian version of Sharia Law. All you see is religion. There are people who are atheist or agnostic and support constitutional law, and these people like Cruz of the remaining candidates despite his religion, which is all you see. Unless you yourself are running for President you cannot find complete harmony with any candidate.