Crying kids in target

[jdoggg12]

TO PUT IT IN TO PERSPECTIVE (ignore the first 15 seconds):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxuMKb5CKI0
The kid was a little younger, but it was basically that kind of tantrum... for over 4 minutes.


My friend spends 99% of his time at work negotiating. He's learned to stay calm and rational through some of the toughest negotiations. He's had my job on the line, he's had jobs of hundreds on the line. I remained cool.

This b---- in Target broke through his coolness. She had a child with her that was just spazing. I mean a complete tantrum. The mom was on the phone and I heard her saying "I'm not even going to pay attention, he needs to learn that tantrum won't get him anywhere".

That pissed us off. So we're suppose to suffer because of her child. F- no.

The the child let out a scream that did my buddy in. He walked over to the kid, looked him in the eye and said "YOU NEED TO SHUT THE F- UP" then he turned to mom (who was still on the phone) and said "YOU F-ING SUCK!".

Both child and mom went silent. he smiled and walked away.

Looking back now it was probably a tad harsh. I'm just fed up with parents who make my life hell because they can't control kids or simply choose not to. Public places are NOT the place to use the "i'm going to ignore your bad behavior" trick. My daughter knows damn well that acting up like that in public will NOT be tolerated.

/rant


EDIT

To put this into perspective - the kid was yelling for at least 3 minutes, and then screaming at the top of his lungs for at least another minute. The kind of scream that pierces your ears just right so that its mildly painful. At one point, before the screaming, he yelled, "I wanna leave!! I hate you s#!t head!!"

So its not like swearing was a sin this kid was never exposed to.

I'm NOT condoning what he did, but the fact that he spoke up I do agree with. Bystander apathy is why parents get away with letting their kids act like that. If people speak up, hopefully those parents will be shamed into raising their kids to respect those around them in public.

 

[tasmanian]

7/10

 

[Nebor]

Sounds like he did a good job. :thumbsup:

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Pwned.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I love these threads =)

 

[Ricemarine]

Just smile and walk away :laugh:

8/10

 

[pyonir]

Your friend should have punched the kid in the face. YEAH! Right in his face buddy!

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJYQnf2KJ4c

LOL... This popped right into my head...

 

[pray4mojo]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

The the child let out a scream that did my buddy in. He walked over to the kid, looked him in the eye and said "YOU NEED TO SHUT THE F- UP" then he turned to mom (who was still on the phone) and said "YOU F-ING SUCK!".

This story wouldve been meh if not for this. :laugh:

 

[TheNewbie]

That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

 

[DrCrap]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

P...P..Pa..Pwnage!!!!

LMAO!

 

[sadffffff]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

exactly. swearing at a (my) little kid? i would have knocked him out. doenst matter that the mother should have considered her surroundings.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

You seem to be one of those people who think that your life is your own, no matter how it affects those around you. Gone are the days when it was a community job to raise children - parents get pissed when other people get pissed and speak up when their kids are pissing off everyone around them

If you took action to correct the situation to begin with, there'd be no need for other people to intervene. I DID say it was over the top, but the theory is sound. Just putting up with bratty behavior b/c its not your kid is why so few kids lack respect to ANYONE these days.

He should not have sworn, but i fully agree with reprimanding both parent and brat.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: DrCrap

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

P...P..Pa..Pwnage!!!!

LMAO!

P...P..Pa??

 

[invidia]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

No, you fail as a parent if someone swears at your kid for being a little brat and you not taking the right actions before someone else does.

You punching someone because he swore at your kid would of never happened if you done your job as a parent and a citizen of common courtesy.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

I disagree. I would have been the guy in line behind him applauding. (And preventing your unauthorized dental work if necessary)

As a former retail worker, nothing pissed me off more than kids who had zero respect for their parents (re: parents who had zero control over their kids) When I had to be the one to tell the kids to stop touching... there was a problem.

 

[sadffffff]

No one has the right to discipline a child that isn?t theirs, the most the guy should have done is to ask the parent to take care of it to and keep it down. Telling a little kid off is grounds to get your ass kicked. It boiled down to a supposedly grown man picking on a little kid.

Now if I were in the parents position, it wouldn?t have happened in the first place, obviously. But, say, if the kid got out of hand while I was preoccupied:

1) Guy tells my kid "you better shut the f--k up", right there I would have broke his nose. No excuse to threaten a child, especially when you?re "6'3 230lbs". Grow up, guy.

2) Guy tells me to shut my kid up disrespectfully, like he?s got a steak in it, he would get a "mind your own business". Then after he?s gone, my kid would get "you shouldn?t have been doing that <insert appropriate punishment>, and I should have caught it, but he?s not going to tell me how to raise you. It was none of his business."

3) Guy says "please keep it down", I apologize and deal with the kid.

I would have to look downward at your friend, but let?s not get into who could beat up who, that?s an internet pissing match at its best. Your fried would deserve a pop in the face for doing that to a little kid. And if he was dumb enough to escalate it into an all out brawl, he'd be in plenty of trouble too, for doing that to a child. It?s the parent?s duty to stick up for the kid when there?s that much age, height, weight, and strength difference. Especially when it?s none of his business, you?re in a crummy department store, not a fancy restaurant, or somewhere that your experience is going to be ruined. If a little kid sets him off that easily, he's got something wrong with him anyway, maybe he should stay away from children, the weirdo.

 

[TheNewbie]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

0/10

You seem to be one of those people who think that your life is your own, no matter how it affects those around you. Gone are the days when it was a community job to raise children - parents get pissed when other people get pissed and speak up when their kids are pissing off everyone around them

If you took action to correct the situation to begin with, there'd be no need for other people to intervene. I DID say it was over the top, but the theory is sound. Just putting up with bratty behavior b/c its not your kid is why so few kids lack respect to ANYONE these days.

He should not have sworn, but i fully agree with reprimanding both parent and brat.

You, as some others here fail to see what I said.
I started by saying the kid should've been handled by his stupid mother. And you should've understand that by no means I justify their behavior.
Though as you should know, two wrongs don't make a right. And you don't know a 100% of their side of the story, if your friend thought (like most of us do), that that kid was being on extremely bad behavior he should have approached the mother in a polite (yet stern) manner asking her to take control over the kid.

The second part of my comment referred to what I would have done if someone approached me like that, and wasn't to justify the way that kid was acting.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: sadffffff
No one has the right to discipline a child that isn?t theirs, the most the guy should have done is to ask the parent to take care of it to and keep it down. Telling a little kid off is grounds to get your ass kicked. It boiled down to a supposedly grown man picking on a little kid.

Now if I were in the parents position, it wouldn?t have happened in the first place, obviously. But, say, if the kid got out of hand while I was preoccupied:

1) Guy tells my kid "you better shut the f--k up", right there I would have broke his nose. No excuse to threaten a child, especially when you?re "6'3 230lbs". Grow up, guy.

2) Guy tells me to shut my kid up disrespectfully, like he?s got a steak in it, he would get a "mind your own business". Then after he?s gone, my kid would get "you shouldn?t have been doing that <insert appropriate punishment>, and I should have caught it, but he?s not going to tell me how to raise you. It was none of his business."

3) Guy says "please keep it down", I apologize and deal with the kid.

I would have to look downward at your friend, but let?s not get into who could beat up who, that?s an internet pissing match at its best. Your fried would deserve a pop in the face for doing that to a little kid. And if he was dumb enough to escalate it into an all out brawl, he'd be in plenty of trouble too, for doing that to a child. It?s the parent?s duty to stick up for the kid when there?s that much age, height, weight, and strength difference. Especially when it?s none of his business, you?re in a crummy department store, not a fancy restaurant, or somewhere that your experience is going to be ruined. If a little kid sets him off that easily, he's got something wrong with him anyway, maybe he should stay away from children, the weirdo.

I sooo disagree. If your parenting skills are so bankrupt that your kids are causing enough havoc to actually make a random citizen pissed off enough to say something (bearing in mind how much random BS people will put up with in a public situation) then you and your kid deserve whatever ire you bring upon yourselves.

 

[jdoggg12]

To put this into perspective - the kid was yelling for at least 3 minutes, and then screaming at the top of his lungs for at least another minute. The kind of scream the pierces your ears just right so that its mildly painful. At one pont, before the screaming, he yelled, "I wanna leave!! I hate you s#!t head!!"

So its not like swearing was a sin this kid was never exposed to.

To those that say they'd punch my friend, how would you explain that to your child? "No one talks to you like that so its ok to use violence to stop them."? If its ANYTHING like that, a stranger swearing at your kid to stop yelling is probably not the worst thing in his development at that point. You had 4+ minutes to shut your kid up, dont expect patience and rationality to be at the top of the list for someone that steps in.

Originally posted by: sadffffff
No one has the right to discipline a child that isn?t theirs

IMO this only teaches children that in their parents absence there are no boundaries so long as mom/dad dont find out. If my kid is being a little sh*t, i fully expect other to call her on it if i cannot. yes, i dont want them cussing at her, but she WILL need to have her attitude stomped... quick.

 

[imported_Mike]

I love some of the responses from blatant nerds who havn't so much as babysat their nephew/niece before. Not saying this parent was in the right, or even a good parent to begin with.

OP, you're buddy is an asshole. Go tell the kid to be quiet, but way to be a douche and tell him to shut the fvck up.

 

[jackace]

I babysit my niece (2) and nephew (4) OFTEN. I take them to the mall and other places. If they start acting up and won't stop yelling and raising hell, we leave the store and go home. Parents that do not do the same are just selfish IMO. They do not want to teach their kids to behave and are not willing to change their plans because their child is acting up in public AND will not stop.

I have no problem with kids that throw a fit, but the parent takes care of it asap. I have a HUGE problem with parents that do not, can not, or refuse to control and teach their own children. I have and will continue to let these parents know they do not have the right to "punish" the rest of us because they would have to go outside or punish their children.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: jackace
I babysit my niece (2) and nephew (4) OFTEN. I take them to the mall and other places. If they start acting up and won't stop yelling and raising hell, we leave the store and go home. Parents that do not do the same are just selfish IMO. They do not want to teach their kids to behave and are not willing to change their plans because their child is acting up in public AND will not stop.

I have no problem with kids that throw a fit, but the parent takes care of it asap. I have a HUGE problem with parents that do not, can not, or refuse to control and teach their own children. I have and will continue to let these parents know they do not have the right to "punish" the rest of us because they would have to go outside or punish their children.

Exactly, so you let the parents know. Hell of a lot different from walking up and screaming right back at the kid and telling him to shut the fvck up in the process. Two completely different things IMO.

 

[jackace]

I agree. It's not the child's fault. It's the parent's fault

 

[sadffffff]

Once again no ones defending the mother, she was bad.

Your friend was completely out of line though, completely. You can?t do that to a little kid. Maybe someone his own age, or a punk teenager (even then he should be grown enough not to have to swear to make his point).

How do you explain the violence to the kid? Easy, the kid will see that you?re sticking up for HIM. And afterwards he will be punished and know that he was also out of line. Later in life when he has children of his own, he will hopefully be enough of a man to stick up for his kids. Instead of letting some random psycho come up and threaten his kid, swear at him and then leave it at that. THATS a result of poor parenting.

Parents must not teach patience to their kids when they grow up anymore. Or they think it?s cool to be a loose cannon and not put up with anything for even a second. In a situation like that (little kid screaming) I would be completely calm, probably more calm that usual because it reminds me that I?m grown up and that sort of tantrum AND being bothered by it, are beneath me.

The mother was a dip, and your friend dealt with it very poorly.