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Sunner

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Originally posted by: Mike
Originally posted by: jackace
I babysit my niece (2) and nephew (4) OFTEN. I take them to the mall and other places. If they start acting up and won't stop yelling and raising hell, we leave the store and go home. Parents that do not do the same are just selfish IMO. They do not want to teach their kids to behave and are not willing to change their plans because their child is acting up in public AND will not stop.

I have no problem with kids that throw a fit, but the parent takes care of it asap. I have a HUGE problem with parents that do not, can not, or refuse to control and teach their own children. I have and will continue to let these parents know they do not have the right to "punish" the rest of us because they would have to go outside or punish their children.

Exactly, so you let the parents know. Hell of a lot different from walking up and screaming right back at the kid and telling him to shut the fvck up in the process. Two completely different things IMO.

"Let the parent know"?
How the hell could anyone not notice when the kid is yelling loud enough to make the fire dept next door think it's fire alarm?
I don't much like kids in general, but I'm around them enough to know that they do start yelling now and then, and I can live with that.
But people who are tarded enough not to either gtfo of the store/restaurant/whatever, or make the kid shut up, shouldn't be allowed to procreate to begin with.

Yeah, yelling at him like that was excessive, but as has been said, if the parent hadn't been an asswipe, it wouldn't have happened to begin with.
And no, "I have an important call here" is NOT an excuse.
 

DrCrap

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Originally posted by: sadffffff
No one has the right to discipline a child that isn?t theirs, the most the guy should have done is to ask the parent to take care of it to and keep it down. Telling a little kid off is grounds to get your ass kicked. It boiled down to a supposedly grown man picking on a little kid.

Now if I were in the parents position, it wouldn?t have happened in the first place, obviously. But, say, if the kid got out of hand while I was preoccupied:

1) Guy tells my kid "you better shut the f--k up", right there I would have broke his nose. No excuse to threaten a child, especially when you?re "6'3 230lbs". Grow up, guy.

2) Guy tells me to shut my kid up disrespectfully, like he?s got a steak in it, he would get a "mind your own business". Then after he?s gone, my kid would get "you shouldn?t have been doing that <insert appropriate punishment>, and I should have caught it, but he?s not going to tell me how to raise you. It was none of his business."

3) Guy says "please keep it down", I apologize and deal with the kid.

I would have to look downward at your friend, but let?s not get into who could beat up who, that?s an internet pissing match at its best. Your fried would deserve a pop in the face for doing that to a little kid. And if he was dumb enough to escalate it into an all out brawl, he'd be in plenty of trouble too, for doing that to a child. It?s the parent?s duty to stick up for the kid when there?s that much age, height, weight, and strength difference. Especially when it?s none of his business, you?re in a crummy department store, not a fancy restaurant, or somewhere that your experience is going to be ruined. If a little kid sets him off that easily, he's got something wrong with him anyway, maybe he should stay away from children, the weirdo.

I'm totaly with you on this one.
The fact that the kids mother was an ignorant b!tch doesn't mean you have the right to go and threaten a kid, not to mention swearing at him.
You try that crap on me, no matter the reasons, you'll get a fiest in the face.

I think OP knows that his friend was being a big hero pulling that on a stupid mom. Why won't you try it on dad next time, and come back to tell us in which hospital you want us to visit you.

 

markgm

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If you're the kind of parent that has no control of their kids, then I'd imagine you're the kind of parent who won't care what a stranger says to your child or would ever stand to someone who tells your kid to shut up. You folks have such egos. "I'd take a gun and blow the head off of anyone who told my kid to shut up, I don't have a job or financial responsibilities that I can be taken to court over hitting a guy..." Grow up people. Oh no, a kid heard a swear word. What sheltered world do you people live in? Threaten a kid? You guys better stop posting inane babel. Was that a threat?
 

StageLeft

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Eh, sounds like the mom sucks and the kid was a sh*t. Chances are your friend did something helpful.
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
I don't get it. Why not just walk away?

They did but they story sounds better with this ending. If it happened the friend is an idiot.
 

Fritzo

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OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :| People that think "Oh...you have to be a good parent to get a kid to stop throwing a tantrum" are the same people THAT DO NOT HAVE KIDS. They do not follow any logic, have any concept of acting civilized, and are difficult to communicate with. I'm betting not a single person here that agreed with what that jerk did have kids of their own so they can say "Oh yeah...I know what that's like". People that don't have kids yet always think "My kid is going to be a perfect angel." Then they have one or two and they go "Oh...."
 

rh71

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Hopefully that did the mom and kid a favor. She can use that and tell the kid that's what happens when you scream in public places. In all honesty, I wish people are told off more in public.
 

MrChad

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If you friend wasn't completely chicken shit, he would have directed his anger and frustration solely at the mother and not the defenseless child. What an asshole.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.

:roll:

Kids cry and throw tantrums sometimes. It doesn't always mean that they're brats and it doesn't always mean that they have poor parents.
 

jackace

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.

:roll:

Kids cry and throw tantrums sometimes. It doesn't always mean that they're brats and it doesn't always mean that they have poor parents.

When the parent just stands there and refuses to control the child, thats a poor parent.

Kids throw fits, but if you have taught them well they are easily controlled and if not you remove them from the location. Do not make other people put up with your uncontrollable child because it requires work on your part and maybe even a change of plans.
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: jackace
Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.

:roll:

Kids cry and throw tantrums sometimes. It doesn't always mean that they're brats and it doesn't always mean that they have poor parents.

When the parent just stands there and refuses to control the child, thats a poor parent.

Kids throw fits, but if you have taught them well they are easily controlled and if not you remove them from the location. Do not make other people put up with your uncontrollable child because it requires work on your part and maybe even a change of plans.

I don't disagree with you, but frankly that's irrelevant to this situation. There is no excuse for anyone to get in a stranger's kid's face and yell and curse. It's juvenile and it's uncalled for. Yell at the parent if it bothers you that much.
 

TheAdvocate

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Originally posted by: jackace

When the parent just stands there and refuses to control the child, thats a poor parent.

Kids throw fits, but if you have taught them well they are easily controlled and if not you remove them from the location. Do not make other people put up with your uncontrollable child because it requires work on your part and maybe even a change of plans.

I have a 10 month old. You had me until you said easily. There is NOTHING easy about it. Children, especially very young ones, do not act rationaly. The only thing you can do is try to calm them (gentle but firm tones, redirection, but not by giving in), and if that doesn't work fairly quickly, you should leave.

That said, you have to expect some of that at big box stores, especially Wal-Mart (a/k/a "where mothers take their kids to beat them"). I was kind of surprised that this happened in a Target. Where I live, Target doesn't tend to attract that type of clientele. It's mainly affluent soccer moms with kids old enough to actually understand the word "no".

[edit] And oh yeah, your buddy was way out of line. I'd have punched his teeth in.
 

kevnich2

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Apr 10, 2004
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I'm sorry but just because their little kids, doesn't give them an excuse to be little tantrums. This IMO is what is wrong with the world today. People are way too Politically correct, especially when it comes to raising kids, they raise them so that they think they can do what they want because they are the most important thing. When I was growing up, this behavior would have never happened because we weren't stupid enough to even try this with my dad because we knew if we did anything to make him look at us just that certain way, when we either got to the car or back to the house, we'd have very sore rear ends. I don't think what your friend did is right, cussing at a little kid and his mom just isn't right but at the same time, that mom needs some educating herself as to how to properly raise kids and how they should act in public. But the correct thing to do in that case wouldn't have any effect anyway so it's a mute point.
 

timswim78

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Jan 1, 2003
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Anyway, what does this following quote mean? "He's learned to stay calm and rational through some of the toughest negotiations. He's had my job on the line, he's had jobs of hundreds on the line. I remained cool."

 
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