Crying kids in target

[jjones]

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

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Sorry, you'd get beat down and then your kid would really have something to cry about.

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :| People that think "Oh...you have to be a good parent to get a kid to stop throwing a tantrum" are the same people THAT DO NOT HAVE KIDS. They do not follow any logic, have any concept of acting civilized, and are difficult to communicate with. I'm betting not a single person here that agreed with what that jerk did have kids of their own so they can say "Oh yeah...I know what that's like". People that don't have kids yet always thing "My kid is going to be a perfect angel." Then they have one or two and they go "Oh...."

I have a 1.5YO and a 3.5YO and I consider them pretty well behaved but they stil have unexpected outbursts. We don't go to nice restaurants but if we go to the grocery and they have tantrums it is usually best to ignore the action not reward it with attention or giving in to their whims. I have had to deal with a few tantrums and I usually can't ignore it (my wife can). I will get down to my son's level so we are eye-to-eye and in a stern but not raised voice I let him know that his actions are not appropriate (not my exact words). Most times it works but sometimes I have to accept that young kids are not rational.
My wife and I are well educated and she reads all kinds of "child rearing" books. We always thought we would have the best behaved kids but now I believe that kids that don't have occasional outburts probably have some issues.
If the kid in the OP was actually saying "shit head" then I assume he was old enough to understand civil behavior but since his age isn't mentioned/guessed I also have to assume that the OP has no idea about kids and their irrational behavior. I would never tell my kids to "Shut the fuck up" and I would never allow anyone else to say it either. Your friend is an ass and I am sure he would be a great parent. :roll:

edit: I think it it rather ironic where the OP talks about people not controlling their kids and it is followed by his post regarding not having any self-control and almost killing himself on a bike.

 

[Vonkhan]

:thumbsup:

Good job

As for all the other "parents" in this thread, if you can't tell your kid to shut up - someone else will have to. Also, if you can't control a bawling kid, what makes you think that you can kick my ass?

We need more people like the OP's friend and the aircrew who offloaded the mom & her "bye bye plane" brat.

 

[homercles337]

I love all the "holier than thou" fools coming out to defend their "right" to let their kid be a snotty little shit in public. Classic.

Edit: Especially, the ones threatening violence. "You speak to *MY* brat like that and i will beat you down e-thug style!" :roll: :laugh:

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: homercles337
I love all the "holier than thou" fools coming out to defend their "right" to let their kid be a snotty little shit in public. Classic.

It almost a classic as the "holier than thou" fools that think they would be great parents even though they only have e-girlfriends.

 

[Kirby]

How old was the kid?

 

[TheNewbie]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: TheNewbie
That kid was a little spoiled brat who should've been much better educated by his no good mother, and the mother should have been punished.
However, if a stranger would ever approach to me and/or my child in the manner your buddy did, he would be visiting the dentist afterwards for replacing a couple of lost teeth.
To do something like your friend did, is being stupid, to go a head and brag about it in a forum is being a retard (Get a life buddy).

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Sorry, you'd get beat down and then your kid would really have something to cry about.

Well, I'm a pretty big boy, not too many people can smack me around, though I don't think I was involved in a fight since I discharged from the army over 15 years ago...
However I don't know if I said it in the heat of the moment, since I'm not a 100% sure I would actually hit someone that fast, even though I might want to, since it might have some implications later on (getting arrested, sued etc.).

But don't for a minute think, that his friend wasn't just another a$$hole.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: homercles337
I love all the "holier than thou" fools coming out to defend their "right" to let their kid be a snotty little shit in public. Classic.

I love all the "holier than thou" fools coming out to defend their "right" to discipline someone else's kid and display how much of an ass they are in public. Classic.

 

[aircooled]

I'm not defending the mother, but

1: You get in my kids face like that and you're going down or better be ready to take me down no matter what the situation.

2: You do not know this child's history. He may have issues that actually are being dealt with, but this over-reaction could have screwed that up.

3: Non-parent's reprimanding another persons child rather than dealing with the actual parent can STFU and go back to their dorm room. Call back in 10 years or so when you've dealt with your own screaming brat.

I'm not saying the mother was right but this situation was handled very wrong.

 

[Mxylplyx]

I fully condone what this guy did, although he could have left the "fuck" out.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

I heard a mother say the other day in public "get over here now or I'm going to kick the crap out of you" :roll:

that kids gonna turn out normal. :roll:

 

[MisterJackson]

My son just walked up and saw me watching that SouthPark ADD video. First words out of his mouth were "That'd be you if you were a teacher Dad.".

I can say with 100% certainty that my son has NEVER thrown a tantrum in public, period. Good parenting (read discipline) beforehand is what I consider preventative maintenance.

 

[dyna]

Your "buddy" sounds like he has a temper. He better get that under control before he decides to have kids. If he has a temper like that in a Target, I would hate to see how he treats is own kids, he may just be ruthless.

Personally, I think in highschool there needs to be a required pregnancy/parenting class instead of sex ed. There would be 3 benefits to this.

1. Kids gets an idea of what the process is like throughout pregancy and then becoming a parent.

2. After understanding the in/outs of #1 you will probably have safer sex habits.

3. Once you have the kid you have some idea about the psychology of raising a kid. Obviously the mother in the OP is having issues when her kid is saying the words he did.

 

[FoBoT]

many parents don't discipline their kids and the kids run the household

just watch supernanny or that other show, it is sad

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: kevnich2
I'm sorry but just because their little kids, doesn't give them an excuse to be little tantrums. This IMO is what is wrong with the world today. People are way too Politically correct, especially when it comes to raising kids, they raise them so that they think they can do what they want because they are the most important thing. When I was growing up, this behavior would have never happened because we weren't stupid enough to even try this with my dad because we knew if we did anything to make him look at us just that certain way, when we either got to the car or back to the house, we'd have very sore rear ends. I don't think what your friend did is right, cussing at a little kid and his mom just isn't right but at the same time, that mom needs some educating herself as to how to properly raise kids and how they should act in public. But the correct thing to do in that case wouldn't have any effect anyway so it's a mute point.

1) it's actually moot.
2) Russell Peters says beat your kids (everyone needs to watch this at least once)

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: pyonir
Your friend should have punched the kid in the face. YEAH! Right in his face buddy!

no, punch the kid in the kidney

or the spleen!!! nobody likes to get punched in the spleen

 

[kevnich2]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson
My son just walked up and saw me watching that SouthPark ADD video. First words out of his mouth were "That'd be you if you were a teacher Dad.".

I can say with 100% certainty that my son has NEVER thrown a tantrum in public, period. Good parenting (read discipline) beforehand is what I consider preventative maintenance.

I'd have to agree. I'm more of the disciplinarian myself. I know different kids have different best ways to parent them but sorry, telling them that they're going to get a time out and trying to "rationally" deal with the kid, I don't think is going to do anything for them because as it's been said, kids aren't rational. I'd rather have them be a little fearful that if they act out, they're going to get spanked. They'll grow up much better behaved with discipline from their parents.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: kevnich2
I'm sorry but just because their little kids, doesn't give them an excuse to be little tantrums. This IMO is what is wrong with the world today. People are way too Politically correct, especially when it comes to raising kids, they raise them so that they think they can do what they want because they are the most important thing. When I was growing up, this behavior would have never happened because we weren't stupid enough to even try this with my dad because we knew if we did anything to make him look at us just that certain way, when we either got to the car or back to the house, we'd have very sore rear ends. I don't think what your friend did is right, cussing at a little kid and his mom just isn't right but at the same time, that mom needs some educating herself as to how to properly raise kids and how they should act in public. But the correct thing to do in that case wouldn't have any effect anyway so it's a mute point.

1) it's actually moot.
2) Russell Peters says beat your kids (everyone needs to watch this at least once)

i think it is "moosepoint"

there was a movie about it, it comes from canada

 

[Aikouka]

Telling a kid to shut up is threatening the kid? Please put the Barney tapes away and get out of the "I love you, you love me" mindset before you taint children other than your own. Last thing this world needs is more yuppie parents.

Oh and swearing may've been a bit extreme, but it's most assuredly the result of being annoyed to such an extent by a poorly-parented child.

I had a noisy situation like that occur in Wal-Mart a couple weeks ago... my god, that child could've shut up 'cause I don't care if she wants her daddy or not. But this was Wal-Mart, so some shouting, rowdy and all-around badly-parented kid is normal .

EDIT: To explain even more, something such as telling someone to shut up cannot be a threat because there is no expressed condition (such as "shut up or I'll smack you") and the only thing that could even push the idea that there's "danger" involved is the swearing.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.

OK, # of kids and thier ages.

 

[Vonkhan]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.

OK, # of kids and thier ages.

If your kids do it, leave them at home, tie them up in the garage or put them in the care of a few Siberian Huskies, I really don't care.

But if you bring your litter to a public place and can't control them - don't expect me to put up with it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: jackace

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: Fritzo
OK, this is one of the most disgusting "Look what a cool thing I did" threads I've ever read. KIDS DO THIS- IT'S THEIR JOB! Between 2-4 they yell, scream, hit, kick..anything to get what they want. There's no way around it. Your mister "more holy than thou" friend needs to be punched in the neck. :|

No way around it? Sounds like we've got the dad of that little brat right here guys.

:roll:

Kids cry and throw tantrums sometimes. It doesn't always mean that they're brats and it doesn't always mean that they have poor parents.

When the parent just stands there and refuses to control the child, thats a poor parent.

Kids throw fits, but if you have taught them well they are easily controlled and if not you remove them from the location. Do not make other people put up with your uncontrollable child because it requires work on your part and maybe even a change of plans.

actually thats one of the things you are sopposed to do. IF they throw a fit in the store for something and talking to them does not calm them down (and no other parent with you) then all you can do and should do is ignore it.

you can't smack them for it. if so people would be claiming child abuse. you cant give into the tantrum it would cause them to do it again and again.

Even the best behaved children have tantrums every now and then. My daughter is good for one every 6 months. the rest of the time she is a great. we have recieved many compliments for her behavior in resturants.

just every now and then she has a breakdown.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Telling a kid to shut up is threatening the kid? Please put the Barney tapes away and get out of the "I love you, you love me" mindset before you taint children other than your own. Last thing this world needs is more yuppie parents.

Oh and swearing may've been a bit extreme, but it's most assuredly the result of being annoyed to such an extent by a poorly-parented child.

I had a noisy situation like that occur in Wal-Mart a couple weeks ago... my god, that child could've shut up 'cause I don't care if she wants her daddy or not. But this was Wal-Mart, so some shouting, rowdy and all-around badly-parented kid is normal .

EDIT: To explain even more, something such as telling someone to shut up cannot be a threat because there is no expressed condition (such as "shut up or I'll smack you") and the only thing that could even push the idea that there's "danger" involved is the swearing.

I wonder if he would have did the same thing if it was a retarded kid in a wheelchair. The two have about the same mindset...what would the difference be?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: sadffffff
No one has the right to discipline a child that isn?t theirs, the most the guy should have done is to ask the parent to take care of it to and keep it down. Telling a little kid off is grounds to get your ass kicked. It boiled down to a supposedly grown man picking on a little kid.

Now if I were in the parents position, it wouldn?t have happened in the first place, obviously. But, say, if the kid got out of hand while I was preoccupied:

1) Guy tells my kid "you better shut the f--k up", right there I would have broke his nose. No excuse to threaten a child, especially when you?re "6'3 230lbs". Grow up, guy.

2) Guy tells me to shut my kid up disrespectfully, like he?s got a steak in it, he would get a "mind your own business". Then after he?s gone, my kid would get "you shouldn?t have been doing that <insert appropriate punishment>, and I should have caught it, but he?s not going to tell me how to raise you. It was none of his business."

3) Guy says "please keep it down", I apologize and deal with the kid.

I would have to look downward at your friend, but let?s not get into who could beat up who, that?s an internet pissing match at its best. Your fried would deserve a pop in the face for doing that to a little kid. And if he was dumb enough to escalate it into an all out brawl, he'd be in plenty of trouble too, for doing that to a child. It?s the parent?s duty to stick up for the kid when there?s that much age, height, weight, and strength difference. Especially when it?s none of his business, you?re in a crummy department store, not a fancy restaurant, or somewhere that your experience is going to be ruined. If a little kid sets him off that easily, he's got something wrong with him anyway, maybe he should stay away from children, the weirdo.

You're an idiot. You are Mr Internet Tough Guy aren't you? I've told plenty of peoples kids to shut the fuck up. Not a single one of them has tried to harm me. You know why, because if it gets to the point where someone else does have to control your child, you're going to be to embarrassed to do anything but stand there and act like the little bitch you are.
Oh and your punching someone in the face because they told your kid to be quiet would land you in court and if you did break a nose or teeth, guess what, it's ag assault if you break bones/teeth and that my friend is a felony. And don't forget the lawsuit that the guy can and will bring against you.

You are not the center of the universe and neither are your kids. Control them otherwise someone else will.

 

[imported_Imp]

Problem for me isn't so much the yelling/swearing, it's that he got in the kid's face. The guy did go overboard, and should never have directly gotten involved. If that were my kid/friend who got yelled at directly, I'd tell him to "eff off" no matter how right he was. He was being confrontational and was lucky it was the mother, cause daddy would definately have kicked his as*.

Proper procedure would have been to ask the mother nicely, then sternly to tell the little POS to shut up. Or if you absolutely had to say it to the kid, walk away and yell out "shut the little POS up" or plain "stfu"; I've done this before from across the street, in an indirect manner, cause the little punk (lives across from me) would throw a tantrum for at least 10 minutes early in the morning while I'm still sleeping.