Cryptocoin Mining?

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blastingcap

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From those stats (which shows a HUGE spike in bitcoin client downloads recently in China, after the CNTV channel did their bitcoin story apparently) and what I can gather from that CNTV video, China just woke up to BTC. Chinese energy is subsidized, and they have a very large number of video cards there. We are about to experience the mother of all difficulty increases from GPUs to add to the already ridiculous ASIC pressure.
 

markyh

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From those stats (which shows a HUGE spike in bitcoin client downloads recently in China, after the CNTV channel did their bitcoin story apparently) and what I can gather from that CNTV video, China just woke up to BTC. Chinese energy is subsidized, and they have a very large number of video cards there. We are about to experience the mother of all difficulty increases from GPUs to add to the already ridiculous ASIC pressure.

Hang on a minute. Are those figures saying there are less than 4000 downloads of the bitcoin client in the USA and less than 1000 in the UK?

So less than 5000 BTC miners in the whole of the USA and UK? Then how come Butterfly Labs ASIC preoders are in the 50000's? Every customer has ordered ten machines?

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ultimatebob

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I'm up and running with FC today since lunchtime. Had a try yesterday evening but gave up beause every pool I tried was crap. Wouldn'y connect to stratum, huge stales (30-40%) on non stastum or just fell over and froze after 15 mins on guiminer scrypt.

Awful experience compared to LTC which was a breeze. Seen some rumours on various FC forums that all FC pools are under various DDOS attacks the last few days?

Anyway did some more research and managed to get an account with one of the bigger pools, fc.dontmine.me, and it seems to work now. Stales are about 2% with statum, slightly higher than LTC pools i use, but fee is 0.2%, so very low.

Interestingly all FC pools only appear to be PPLNs with 120 confirms before payment only. Never used this before for BTC/LTC and man is it slow to pay out or what!!

However as my mining rig is 24/7 I will stick with FC for a few days an see what comes out of it.

I suspect only a few weeks on FC before difficulty vs FC/$ makes it on par with LTC or below for profitable mining but might as well dig it out while it's worth more.

Gonna keep the 1st 100 FC just in case the dump the rest daily into BTC via BTC-E to "cash out" as i go.

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Really? I didn't have any problem with Featherpool at all.

Since I was already mining Litecoin (which uses the same protocol), it was as easy as pointing my mining software to a new server address.
 

markyh

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Really? I didn't have any problem with Featherpool at all.

Since I was already mining Litecoin (which uses the same protocol), it was as easy as pointing my mining software to a new server address.

Yeah tried featherpool.com first and it was just rubbish but the admin is away for a break until 8/5/13 so maybe some is up with the server and no-one to fix it.

Stratum there would not even start for me, non statum had 40% stales. The new pool i'm on (the biggest FC one) works as you suggest. just change address from LTC settings and hit start.

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ultimatebob

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GPU mining is now official retarded.
RIP GPU mining, RIP...

It looks like the guy wants about 2 bitcoin (or about $220 at today's spot price) for one of these things. I can get a pretty nice AMD video card that can mine coin slightly faster that this USB stick for that price, and I can use that card for lots of other stuff if Bitcoin eventually fails. I can also easily mine other cryptocoins if I want to by just changing mining software.

If I can get one for $50 six months from now, count me in if mining is still somewhat profitable then.
 
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Cloudfire777

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Yes, because over 1000W in GPU mining is so much smarter than barely 30W with Erupter?

Then we have heat, then we have noise with GPU mining which you don`t have to deal with a Erupter.

And price/performance is just about what a 7970 can offer. $40 more for the Erupter option.

LOL at all you GPU miners
 
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ultimatebob

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Yeah tried featherpool.com first and it was just rubbish but the admin is away for a break until 8/5/13 so maybe some is up with the server and no-one to fix it.

Stratum there would not even start for me, non statum had 40% stales. The new pool i'm on (the biggest FC one) works as you suggest. just change address from LTC settings and hit start.

M

I wouldn't waste too much time setting it up at this point. The value of FeatherCoin it is already dropping on the exchanges.

It seems that FTC was just a "pump and dump" coin, and now everyone is dumping.
 
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Yes, because over 1000W in GPU mining is so much smarter than barely 30W with Erupter?

Then we have heat, then we have noise with GPU mining which you don`t have to deal with a Erupter.

And price/performance is just about what a 7970 can offer. $40 more for the Erupter option.

LOL at all you GPU miners

There's a difference, it may or may not be obvious to you: GPU miners can go ahead and do it NOW. ASIC miners who want to do it NOW? Nah... wait a few months.. then even a few more months..
 

chimaxi83

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Yes, because over 1000W in GPU mining is so much smarter than barely 30W with Erupter?

Then we have heat, then we have noise with GPU mining which you don`t have to deal with a Erupter.

And price/performance is just about what a 7970 can offer. $40 more for the Erupter option.

LOL at all you GPU miners

Uh huh, you forget that all of us GPU miners are mining NOW, not whenever the hell BFL decides to ship, or when users get these USB miners. You're trying too hard, and you're looking dumber with each post.
 

Cloudfire777

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Uh huh, you forget that all of us GPU miners are mining NOW, not whenever the hell BFL decides to ship, or when users get these USB miners. You're trying too hard, and you're looking dumber with each post.

Lets see here:

1. Its not BFL that make these miners. Its Bitfountain
2. They ship them right now
3. Bitfountain have been delivering ASICs for many months now out to the public. Blades is one of their products. 10-13GH/s. 100s of them out.

Oh there goes all your arguments down in the drain. Now look who is the dumbass here now. Go back to school. Learn how to read before making a complete ass out of yourself to the entire internet. Well you already did. How embarrassing
 
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Final8ty

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Uh huh, you forget that all of us GPU miners are mining NOW, not whenever the hell BFL decides to ship, or when users get these USB miners. You're trying too hard, and you're looking dumber with each post.

Indeed.

I could of jumped in when i first got my 5970's but i had no interest, maybe i should of.
It almost seems like he is bitter that he has missed out and is being as much use as telling people that one day they will die because it makes him feel better while he should just let people enjoy what they are doing while they can.
 
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blastingcap

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Indeed.

I could of jumped in when i first got my 5970's but i had no interest, maybe i should of.
It almost seems like he is bitter that he has missed out and is being as much use as telling people that one day they will die while he should just let people enjoy what they are doing while they can.

More like he and Chimax work for opposite GPU companies. (Look at their respective post histories... hilariously one-sided, and they are polar opposites.) If they don't work for NVDA and AMD, respectively, or at least have financial interest in them, I would be surprised.
 

crashtech

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Cloudfire seems overly intent on guiding users away from GPU mining. The intensity of his opposition is weirdly off-putting to me, but makes me curious about what causes it.
 

blastingcap

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Cloudfire seems overly intent on guiding users away from GPU mining. The intensity of his opposition is weirdly off-putting to me, but makes me curious about what causes it.

NV cards suck at mining so he, being a pro-NV/anti-AMD poster, likes to diss mining and thus, indirectly, AMD. Chimax meanwhile continues his anti-NV/pro-AMD crusade that's been going for even longer than Cloud's pro-NV/anti-AMD crusade. Maybe they can get a room and annihilate each other like matter colliding with anti-matter.
 

Final8ty

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More like he and Chimax work for opposite GPU companies. (Look at their respective post histories... hilariously one-sided, and they are polar opposites.) If they don't work for NVDA and AMD, respectively, or at least have financial interest in them, I would be surprised.

Maybe so, but at the end of the day it does not matter one side can do it and the other cant effectively.
 

crashtech

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Oh, thanks. People have such odd motivations. I recognize a few in myself sometimes, but of those I am far more forgiving, hehe.
 

Final8ty

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NV cards suck at mining so he, being a pro-NV/anti-AMD poster, likes to diss mining and thus, indirectly, AMD. Chimax meanwhile continues his anti-NV/pro-AMD crusade that's been going for even longer than Cloud's pro-NV/anti-AMD crusade. Maybe they can get a room and annihilate each other like matter colliding with anti-matter.

Maybe he will start preaching that the new consoles will be obsolete in x amount of years... well yeah and so what.
 

chimaxi83

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NV cards suck at mining so he, being a pro-NV/anti-AMD poster, likes to diss mining and thus, indirectly, AMD. Chimax meanwhile continues his anti-NV/pro-AMD crusade that's been going for even longer than Cloud's pro-NV/anti-AMD crusade. Maybe they can get a room and annihilate each other like matter colliding with anti-matter.

Lol what a stupid opinion, simpleton. I don't care either way about AMD or Nvidia, I just enjoy calling out idiots on both sides of the fence. You come off as knowing my post history, so you'd know that if you actually did know anything about my post history. I own, have owned, and will continue to own hardware from either side.

Go back to preaching Bitcoin doom and gloom and being mad that this thread contributed to a load of miners hopping on the train, it's about all you're good for.

All Cloudfire does in this thread is talk about GPU mining being dead, which is strange, because we're all GPU mining. Blastingcap just moans and whines about difficulty difficulty difficulty, "if you were smart you would've bought BTC directly when they were cheap," and yells at RussianSensation about promoting this thread and mining. It's funny
 
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BallaTheFeared

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NV cards suck at mining so he, being a pro-NV/anti-AMD poster, likes to diss mining and thus, indirectly, AMD. Chimax meanwhile continues his anti-NV/pro-AMD crusade that's been going for even longer than Cloud's pro-NV/anti-AMD crusade. Maybe they can get a room and annihilate each other like matter colliding with anti-matter.

:thumbsup:
 
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