Cryptocoin Mining?

[Tempered81]

Whats your hashrate now Shmee? Try - create a custom kernel for cgminer in a bin file with set TC and max the undervolt/clock frequencies on 32-36k thread concurrency. You can recompile it to set intensity 23-24 too. Lookup gap 2 and test vectors set at 1 through 4. Test ratios of core speed to mem speed. Should make for 930-1050khash. Maybe 1100Khash if you master it around 1150/1400. The perfect ratio will be a strange combination, like 1127/1439mhz (just an example). Feel free to donate me LTC/BTC. Will help you more through PM if you wish

 

[Shmee]

Hmm I appreciate the help offer very much! My hashrate seems a bit low, but then I have seen them all over the place on the net from 500kh/s to almost a Mh/s. Right now, just looking at GUIminer, I'm at 729 kh/s.

As of now I am running 290x core unlocked at stock speeds; the card doesn't seem to be a great OCer.

My settings are TC=32765, vectors=1, GPU threads=1, worksize=512, intensity=20.

I tried putting the extra flag lookup-gap 2, but it would fail to connect and get any work.

Also, I replaced the CGminer folder that came with the guiminer-scrypt to the latest, 3.7.2.

Used this guy's settings pretty much...https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,6842.0.html

 

[nwo]

I don't quite understand how to make sense of that link... what would be a good bang for buck AMD card these days for a new LTC miner, a 7970 or go for one of the new R9s? (this rig has an Nvidia 560Ti currently)

edit: for my rig in sig, would it be worthwhile to go from a 7970 to 290X?

For mining? No. It would be much better to get another 7970 and xfire them if you can get a good deal on a 7970.

I got an MSI 7870 for $120 after MIR, some people managed to get 7950s yesterday for just a few bucks more (around $130-140) off of newegg. I would highly recommend either 7870s or 7950s since they are so damn cheap and pull in very nice numbers. They are flying off the shelves (permanently) which is why you have to keep an eye out for good deals and stay away from the bad ones ($200+ for a 7870 and $300+ for 7950) because at those prices, they are certainly not the best bang for the buck.

 

[blastingcap]

A rather short-sighted view......

Notoriety/participation is what makes the coins you do mine appreciate.

Except that this is a tech board with probably hundreds of lurkers/guests/non-posters per active poster, and talking about it here just means more mining competition. If you wanted notoriety you'd be talking about it to non-miners or post your bragging at places like bitcointalk.org where everybody there already knows a lot about it.

As for the guy saying he's "not so delusional to think" his words on this forum carry weight: That argument is naive. AMD, NV pay in money or hardware to have viral marketers post in forums (http://northamericaninfluencer.amd.com/Leaderboard/View/1 is the PUBLIC list of AMD viral marketers, not sure how many stealth marketers they have, and NV also has public and perhaps stealth marketers as well) precisely because many people do read stuff here. At any given point in time, 24/7/365, several hundred members and guests are logged into these forums. Not everybody logs in at the same time just like how Facebook might have say, 1 billion accounts but only a small fraction of that ever log in at the same time, so the total members + guests of these forums is easily in the tens or hundreds of thousands. Most people never post anything at all, because they are guests, but they do read nonetheless. If even a small fraction buy a pair of 290s, or like some... uh, optimistic... people, dozens, then yes you would see a measurable impact on litecoin difficulty for sure.

There's a reason why I almost never talk about this stuff outside of bitcointalk.org. Some people used to think you could talk about usenet with impunity, and now it's been driven deep underground with private trackers a necessity to obfuscate content, because people kept talking about it. Although in that case, it was talking to non-techies rather than techies that was the problem.

 

[ZGR]

I really wish I was looking at Bitcoin 2 years ago. I honestly don't see how anyone using GPU's in late 2013 can make a profit off of mining.

If I had an ASIC miner, I guess I would still be interested....

 

[24601]

Except that this is a tech board with probably hundreds of lurkers/guests/non-posters per active poster, and talking about it here just means more mining competition. If you wanted notoriety you'd be talking about it to non-miners or post your bragging at places like bitcointalk.org where everybody there already knows a lot about it.

As for the guy saying he's "not so delusional to think" his words on this forum carry weight: That argument is naive. AMD, NV pay in money or hardware to have viral marketers post in forums (http://northamericaninfluencer.amd.com/Leaderboard/View/1 is the PUBLIC list of AMD viral marketers, not sure how many stealth marketers they have, and NV also has public and perhaps stealth marketers as well) precisely because many people do read stuff here. At any given point in time, 24/7/365, several hundred members and guests are logged into these forums. Not everybody logs in at the same time just like how Facebook might have say, 1 billion accounts but only a small fraction of that ever log in at the same time, so the total members + guests of these forums is easily in the tens or hundreds of thousands. Most people never post anything at all, because they are guests, but they do read nonetheless. If even a small fraction buy a pair of 290s, or like some crazier people, dozens, then yes you would see a measurable impact on litecoin difficulty for sure.

There's a reason why I almost never talk about this stuff outside of bitcointalk.org. Some people used to think you could talk about usenet with impunity, and now it's in shambles because people would not shut up about it. Seems that those who said the first rule of usenet is to not talk about it were right.

And we would tell them to purchase coins instead, because you will get 500%-4000% higher returns on that. If I had purchased Litecoin instead of my cards, I would be at 50,000 USD to 1 million USD right now.

I buy my cards to play with my cards, if I didn't I wouldn't even want to deal with the crap AMD/ATi driver and the crap AMD/ATi hardware. It's just not worth the effort.

 

[blastingcap]

And we would tell them to purchase coins instead

That's great but "them" means non-miners. Look at what kind of forum this is. If this were say, Yahoo Finance (another place jam packed with marketers), I'd say spam all you want about coins.

P.S. Look at the post immediately below this one. I rest my case. I'm not going to talk about this here more. People can go to bitcoin and altcoin forums directly if they really want to know more. I'm sure geniuses will keep bumping this thread anyway though. I'm usually all for helping fellow forumers out, but there are like a bazillion more lurkers and guests than active forumers on here.

 

[nwo]

This is a decent guide:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,7722.0.html

You can avoid the pain of downloading and setting up a litecoin wallet if you use BTC-e as your exchange and send your litecoins directly there, though I don't really recommend it.

Excellent guide.

Got it up and running on one of my rigs. Getting around 500mH/s with my XFX 7870 Double D.

Edit: I guess that 500mH/s was a bug because it was not reported on the website under my users nor did my GPU temps go up very much from idle. After restarting my PC I am now getting around 280 which is almost 100 less than what I should be getting with my card...

 

[njdevilsfan87]

I really wish I was looking at Bitcoin 2 years ago. I honestly don't see how anyone using GPU's in late 2013 can make a profit off of mining.

If I had an ASIC miner, I guess I would still be interested....

$120/day right now on my end thanks to this hyper bubble that's happening in LTC right now. Really kicking myself for selling 400 LTC for $3500 a week ago. Because today it's worth over $17,000. I would have walked into my Audi dealer with nice that cash and paid off my car yesterday.

Now I am just selling as mine. At this point, $40+ per LTC, even if it goes to $80 in the next week, it's not quite as much a potential loss as the recent 5X of 400LTC it did on me. I'm just now selling and building a small cash stack at BTC-e in hopes of a major correction so I can buy back in at a lower price. If it never happens, worst case scenario I will have made a few grand off mining LTC and it's better than nothing. I didn't get rich quick so I'll have to figure something else out.

 

[cliftonite]

Is it possible to do a 4X 290 setup in 1 rig? What would be the best Mobo & PSU for something like this? Basically willing to throw away one paycheck into this venture.

 

[OCGuy]

Is it possible to do a 4X 290 setup in 1 rig? What would be the best Mobo & PSU for something like this? Basically willing to throw away one paycheck into this venture.

Check out karlitos' thread that is on the front page of this sub-forum right now. You will need two PSUs and you'll want them on water.

 

[cliftonite]

Check out karlitos' thread that is on the front page of this sub-forum right now. You will need two PSUs and you'll want them on water.

Hmmm he has 4X 290x, wonder if you can run 290s without the water setup.

 

[Accord99]

Hmmm he has 4X 290x, wonder if you can run 290s without the water setup.

Power consumption is still probably too high unless you undervolt and underclock or go with powered risers to allow adequate space between cards.

 

[Silverforce11]

I have 2 R290s mining non stop for nearly a day now, they stabilize at around 786kHa/s due to throttling core speed to around 880mhz with default settings. They need powertune ++ to sustain 947mhz. This is with fanspeed fullblast 75% (when im not working on the rig). At 947 core, they reach around 827 kHa/s.

To get full potential out of them, you need aftermarket coolers, water cooling, or wait for AIBs to give a better cooler, the default one is BARELY enough for gaming, mining really hammers them way harder.

 

[cliftonite]

I have 2 R290s mining non stop for nearly a day now, they stabilize at around 786kHa/s due to throttling core speed to around 880mhz with default settings. They need powertune ++ to sustain 947mhz. This is with fanspeed fullblast 75% (when im not working on the rig). At 947 core, they reach around 827 kHa/s.

To get full potential out of them, you need aftermarket coolers, water cooling, or wait for AIBs to give a better cooler, the default one is BARELY enough for gaming, mining really hammers them way harder.

Hmm, guess I could always do 2 rigs, then add 2 more cards to each when the time comes. How many coins that does rig produce right now?

 

[Shmee]

ya i noticed that lol. Looking possibly at the gelid icy cooler for mine.

 

[Silverforce11]

ya i noticed that lol. Looking possibly at the gelid icy cooler for mine.

Ordered 2 Gelids already. I need to work at the rig often so that noise level is just absurd.

 

[Shmee]

will it work in crossfire with them?

 

[Silverforce11]

will it work in crossfire with them?

Yeah my board has a nice gap between the cards.

 

[suklee]

For mining? No. It would be much better to get another 7970 and xfire them if you can get a good deal on a 7970.

I got an MSI 7870 for $120 after MIR, some people managed to get 7950s yesterday for just a few bucks more (around $130-140) off of newegg. I would highly recommend either 7870s or 7950s since they are so damn cheap and pull in very nice numbers. They are flying off the shelves (permanently) which is why you have to keep an eye out for good deals and stay away from the bad ones ($200+ for a 7870 and $300+ for 7950) because at those prices, they are certainly not the best bang for the buck.

I'll keep an eye out for 7870s or 7950s but if buying new, I'm looking at:

Sapphire HD7970 Vapor-X 3GB $375
HIS ATI RADEON R9 290 4GB $435
HIS ATI RADEON R9 290X 4GB $550

 

[Shmee]

290 seems decent for both mining and gaming so...plus miners should be optimized better for Hawaii down the road.

 

[Silverforce11]

290 seems decent for both mining and gaming so...plus miners should be optimized better for Hawaii down the road.

Only if you cool them proper, reference ones will throttle hard on autofan settings, which i cannot change when im running off the HD4000 primary. I cannot run on R290 primary since mining, it lags the system and I need to do work on it. For some stupid reason, AMD blocks out controls in catalyst and afterburner when iGPU is set primary so I can't tell the fans to run faster.

R290 with a better cooler is an awesome miner and gamer GPU, since it doesnt hit 94C and cause a massive spike in power usage.

 

[nwo]

I'll keep an eye out for 7870s or 7950s but if buying new, I'm looking at:

Sapphire HD7970 Vapor-X 3GB $375
HIS ATI RADEON R9 290 4GB $435
HIS ATI RADEON R9 290X 4GB $550

Where do you live? You can easily get a 7970 for around 300 bucks at newegg

 

[OCGuy]

Hmmm he has 4X 290x, wonder if you can run 290s without the water setup.

They are the same chip, with the 290 being harvested 290x.......reviews have the 290 drawing more power sometimes....

 

[BallaTheFeared]

$120/day right now on my end thanks to this hyper bubble that's happening in LTC right now. Really kicking myself for selling 400 LTC for $3500 a week ago. Because today it's worth over $17,000. I would have walked into my Audi dealer with nice that cash and paid off my car yesterday.

Now I am just selling as mine. At this point, $40+ per LTC, even if it goes to $80 in the next week, it's not quite as much a potential loss as the recent 5X of 400LTC it did on me. I'm just now selling and building a small cash stack at BTC-e in hopes of a major correction so I can buy back in at a lower price. If it never happens, worst case scenario I will have made a few grand off mining LTC and it's better than nothing. I didn't get rich quick so I'll have to figure something else out.

Ouch, I had 8.7 coins laying around outside of secured wallet that I decided to cash out at $47 yesterday.

I'm still afraid of getting scammed, but I'm going to keep the cash on my BTC-e account and use the money to play the market. I'm hoping for a crash to sub $20 to buy back in with my "share change".


EDIT:


I'm kind of kicking myself for not continuing to use my second card to mine LTC after being disappointed with CF when not actually needing CF. Like it when I really feel I need it, like in Crysis 3... But those games are so rare even now the rest of the time I'd rather run boarderless windows with ULPS having the second card off, but this is just me for some reason I care about wattage more than ever in my entire PC history.

Instead of using my second card for a paper weight I should have mined with it, but my lord I was sitting on LTC for so long it's so hard to have foresight when there is no logic behind the price in the first place.

I lost a lot of interest when I started out they were $2.50 and by the time I gave it up they were dropping to $2, even as low as $1.50 if I remember right.

I was planning to do a farm, but the girls didn't like the idea. I was scorned for mining while I slept yesterday (can get about $20 a day at the current price)... I dunno what is is about me making money that upsets the overlorders, but it's weird... Almost like I'm living in 1950 as a woman who tells her husband she wants to get a job :|

I don't really need the money but now it feels like I'm wasting money not getting money, how weird is that?


Anyways, playing on one card and mining on the other with my low bios option 800/1500 956mv/931mv, I'd estimate my 6+8 (931mv) is pulling 150w for 480 khash... Which is 3.2 khash per watt, not bad