Cryptocoin Mining?

[IEC]

Thermaltake is good. I in fact have a TW2-430 in my main rig that is roughly 8 years old. That system is always on. I used to mine with it. Same PSU.

I got the Coolmax from a combo I bought. I actually ended up replacing it on that system and just had it laying around. Regardless, both PSUs are fine.... The power cord actually melted on the Thermaltake, but I am currently using the Coolmax.

Both are just brand names and logos. The real maker of the PSU and what components they use determines the quality of the PSUs... and Thermaltake and Coolmax aren't known for being quality...

That said, if your PSUs check out there is something majorly wrong with your motherboard or you've got a massive short circuit somewhere. Those voltages are all sagging horribly. You need to make sure you're not running those systems while you're away until you figure it out, because they could very well burn your house down.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

That PSU is failing. Just look at the voltages!!! 12V line is at 8V

That or that mobo is failing.

Something is really wrong there. Massive under-voltage on all of the rails. Way out of spec, yet your computer is still working.

Relax guys. If the voltages were really that bad, the PC wouldn't function. At all. All readings are way off, so it must be a software problem. There must be an issue with HWMonitor and that mobo's chipset, so try another monitoring problem and see if it gets them right. Try HWInfo or see if Gigabyte has a monitoring program specifically for that mobo. Also, this is why I said multimeters are more reliable.

 

[DrDoug]

Relax guys. If the voltages were really that bad, the PC wouldn't function. At all. All readings are way off, so it must be a software problem. There must be an issue with HWMonitor and that mobo's chipset, so try another monitoring problem and see if it gets them right. Try HWInfo or see if Gigabyte has a monitoring program specifically for that mobo. Also, this is why I said multimeters are more reliable.

As a former marine electrician in another job life, he probably has a short that is dragging all of his voltages down. This could be a failing/shorting power supply or a short to case (motherboard). The software could be reading his system incorrectly but with melting wires, not likely IMO. Being that his cables are heating up and even melting, I'm betting on one of the first two problems. While disconnecting his power supply, firing it up and testing his voltages is good, he also needs to probe his voltages while the system is powered up and running as another check. If the p/s voltages are good while disconnected from the system but low when everything is plugged in to it, then he has developed a short in his system and the p/s is likely ok.

If the voltages are fine with the p/s disconnected from the system and low when plugged in to it, I would pull the motherboard and fire it up on the bench to test one last time to see if it is a short to case ground (via motherboard).

While the advice above about not running this system when not home is good, other than for diagnosis, I wouldn't even run it until this problem is resolved. You are risking a fire.

 

[KlokWyze]

That PSU is failing. Just look at the voltages!!! 12V line is at 8V

That or that mobo is failing.

Powering on a computer is something I would expect even the most crappy of PSUs to do. Computers can have high tolerance with regards to crappy power output so that the symptoms are not noticeable while it is in use, since one would usually blame on "instability", which in turn means blaming the OS. Otherwise, the flawed units don't show their colors until they die or suffer through transients they can't handle(brownout, etc).

I ran a P4 system the family received as a hand-me-down charity gift with a crap PSU(some case unit from Okia). Powered on and off with no issue, and the only noticeable bit of instability was when I closed Firefox once and the whole computer restarted.

TT makes okay functional units, though not the best. Coolmax, though, even if they cherry picked their units(don't know if they did or not), had their units die during review tests, tests the company should have known would kill their supplies if the PSUs were not up to snuff.

I'll go with Unhooked's latter comment. My first thought after replacing everything so thoroughly. I work tech support, so sometimes when you see really WEIRD behavior and your first thought is mobo right off the bat. Though I've seen network issues being caused by a single CPU on a dual CPU system.

I recently had a host coming back to me once a month for an ECC error on the same DIMM slot. Replaced that DIMM twice, CPU on that bank once, ENTIRE F*&kING chassis, etc., etc. Very annoying. Replaced all DIMMs on that particular bank (3 DIMM bank) AND updated all firmware on that mobo/bmc.... now the customer finally puts into production (effectively testing it) after 3 weeks. What a headache. Though I think the problem was an adjacent DIMM on that same bank. TBH don't know... we'll see after this thing runs for a couple days, weeks, etc.

F7@k.... I guess my point is that motherboard tend to be the problem... that sh!t doesn't make any sense. THESE PEICES OF SH!T ARE RANDOM AS F^%K. @*)%y(@tnbg(b(b#g(#bg#b(#gb(g#g#hgh#)ht FML

sorry half drunk at this point .....

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Wow that's scary. I just went and touched all my PSU wires and made sure they weren't hot.

 

[KlokWyze]

While the advice above about not running this system when not home is good, other than for diagnosis, I wouldn't even run it until this problem is resolved. You are risking a fire.

I agree with this 5000%. I'm not running this system until I've tentatively resolved it and then monitored it for a couple hours and then again and again.

It was not comforting walking into a smoking basement after being gone for only 20 minutes. Unit is currently unplugged and waiting mobo transplant.

Thanks for the help guys. :thumbsup:

I'll give an update for sure.

 

[Bateluer]

I have 17 ltc right now. Thinking about cashing out before all these pump and dump coins poison the well and sink the entire crypto market.

 

[MaxFusion16]

So I guess this is normal? It doesn't fluctuate much at all when I start mining. This is a capture from it after I just mined with it for about 3 minutes. This time, only a small patch of cords in between PSU --> GPU molex connectors heat up pretty good.

Also, eletrical wires supplying power should NEVER heat up from the current right? That would mean they were failing at that level of current?

what psu gpu connector? the 6 pin power connector? how many watts are you drawing? has there been an increased load since moving the rigs? i think you have a short somewhere.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I have 17 ltc right now. Thinking about cashing out before all these pump and dump coins poison the well and sink the entire crypto market.

LTC is falling, so getting out now is a good idea. I don't know what really happened @ BitFinex over the past couple of hours (low of $14!!!), but it sure has been profitable for me....

 

[KlokWyze]

LTC is falling, so getting out now is a good idea. I don't know what really happened @ BitFinex over the past couple of hours (low of $14!!!), but it sure has been profitable for me....

Whoever sold @ $14 is awesome. I'd like to meet them.

Yeah BTC & LTC look to be going down steadily, while sh!t coins like DOGE, NXT or any other random are doing well. Can't say I'm surprised. I sold a lot of holding last night. Waiting for it to clear to my checking account now. Selling my single card miner as soon as I get my dual card rig back online.

I will likely buy back in if BTC/LTC tank, but I don't see that happening unless there is catastrophically bad news.

 

[MaxFusion16]

LTC is falling, so getting out now is a good idea. I don't know what really happened @ BitFinex over the past couple of hours (low of $14!!!), but it sure has been profitable for me....

ltc is just no longer profitable, much better to mine other coins and exchange for btc.
I think VTC will replace LTC eventually.

 

[nwo]

I'll buy LTC @ $14 any day...

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Whoever sold @ $14 is awesome. I'd like to meet them.

BitFinex offers margin, and margin is dangerous! I think someone dumped ~5000 LTC which started a chain reaction of stops and margin calls. That $14 LTC was most likely a market order being dumped, and the exchange does not have the liquidity that BTC-e has, so it tanks the price. I was buying @ $18, $17, $16 on margin, but was afraid to buy more for fear of a repeat of this from December:

I then sold them all @ $19 or above, and shorted again @ $22 (!!!), only to cover @ $19, $18, $17, $16, $15!. Damn, what a night! :awe:

Time to buy more DOGE! :biggrin:

 

[KlokWyze]

Both are just brand names and logos. The real maker of the PSU and what components they use determines the quality of the PSUs... and Thermaltake and Coolmax aren't known for being quality...

Who are some proven quality manufacturers? I've had my "quality" VW GTI for years and at the time it was highly rated, but now, they are rated what they are. Sh!t.

 

[KlokWyze]

BitFinex offers margin, and margin is dangerous! I think someone dumped ~5000 LTC which started a chain reaction of stops and margin calls. That $14 LTC was most likely a market order being dumped, and the exchange does not have the liquidity that BTC-e has, so it tanks the price. I was buying @ $18, $17, $16 on margin, but was afraid to buy more for fear of a repeat of this from December:

I then sold them all @ $19 or above, and shorted again @ $22 (!!!), only to cover @ $19, $18, $17, $16, $15!. Damn, what a night! :awe:

Time to buy more DOGE! :biggrin:

Sounds like you're making good money trading which is something I was interested in initially, but realized I don't have the time, nor mental patience, to do. To me, it's just not worth the sacrifice of attention.

I was thinking though. If I was day-trading only $10K worth of crpyto, I could easily make 10% daily on average. There is so much volatility and people are so f&*king STUPID (predictable). It could easily be your primary job...

Luckily, I have a day job (for now) that pays quite well, by my standards at least.

 

[SimianR]

Who are some proven quality manufacturers? I bought my "quality" VW GTI for years and at the time it was highly rated, but now, they are rated what they are. Sh!t.

Seasonic (and corsair - who tends to grab a lot of their PSU's from seasonic and rebrand them).

 

[KlokWyze]

ltc is just no longer profitable, much better to mine other coins and exchange for btc.
I think VTC will replace LTC eventually.

Maybe not to mine, thought I'm not so sure right now. If BTC gets another dramatic cash injection, BTC or LTC is what you want to be holding. Or if/when the SCRYPT-ASIC's roll out en masse and that affects LTC w/ positive pressure vs the USD, you will want to be holding then too. The small market cap coins aren't there. Even DOGE isn't there.

These alt coins are just for miners and day traders that want to pump and dump, which IS effective if you have the time/patience/know-how.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Sounds like you're making good money trading which is something I was interested in initially, but realized I don't have the time, nor mental patience, to do. To me, it's just not worth the sacrifice of attention.

It has its moments, but you have to have volatility to really make big money, and the market hasn't had much of that lately. 10% daily would be damn near impossible, to be quite honest. Just look at the BTC trading range over the past couple of weeks and you'll see ~2-3% daily range. Factor in the trading fees and you're easily looking at losses if you aren't hitting the exact high and low of the day with each trade. The worst part of crypto exchanges though, is that they are open 24/7. Full time day trading crypto can be very taxing...

 

[wowsza]

does anyone here trade on cryptsy? i'm having serious problems with their service.

two days ago, i traded 4.2 million doge into BTC. i received the correct amount of BTC, but they left a NEGATIVE balance on my dogecoin account. i've opened up support tickets that haven't been responded to, and it seems like some other users in the forum have been waiting weeks for get the issue resolved. the negative balance is over 700,000 dogecoins, and they won't allow me to withdraw any of my other balances until it's "resolved"

 

[AnonymouseUser]

does anyone here trade on cryptsy? i'm having serious problems with their service.

two days ago, i traded 4.2 million doge into BTC. i received the correct amount of BTC, but they left a NEGATIVE balance on my dogecoin account. i've opened up support tickets that haven't been responded to, and it seems like some other users in the forum have been waiting weeks for get the issue resolved. the negative balance is over 700,000 dogecoins, and they won't allow me to withdraw any of my other balances until it's "resolved"

Yes, I have 1.1M DOGE on Cryptsy, and won't be sending any more coins to them if I can avoid it. I haven't had the issues you're having, but I did try to withdraw some DOGE to test their withdrawals, and had nothing but problems. I did withdraw a small amount of BTC without issue, though. I don't have a lot of confidence in Cryptsy right now.

For now, all my DOGE buys are going to Vircurex. I've had no problems withdrawing DOGE from them.

 

[wowsza]

Yes, I have 1.1M DOGE on Cryptsy, and won't be sending any more coins to them if I can avoid it. I haven't had the issues you're having, but I did try to withdraw some DOGE to test their withdrawals, and had nothing but problems. I did withdraw a small amount of BTC without issue, though. I don't have a lot of confidence in Cryptsy right now.

For now, all my DOGE buys are going to Vircurex. I've had no problems withdrawing DOGE from them.

they won't let me touch my BTC because their system believes i have a negative balance. i cannot withdraw, and i don't want to trade it back into dogecoin because they'll probably make that negative balance "disappear" if i do.

i LOVE vircurex, but in the amounts of doge i'm dealing with i can't trade there because they just don't deal with the same amount of volume cryptsy does.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

i LOVE vircurex, but in the amounts of doge i'm dealing with i can't trade there because they just don't deal with the same amount of volume cryptsy does.

I can definitely understand that. Even with just 2M DOGE on Vircurex, it's often difficult to buy or sell more than 500k without making waves. I really wish BTC-e would add DOGE, but they would rather keep TRC and FTC instead...

Google turns up a lot of hits for Cryptsy and negative balances. Good luck with that. Sheesh.

 

[wowsza]

I can definitely understand that. Even with just 2M DOGE on Vircurex, it's sometimes difficult to buy or sell more than 500k without making waves. I really wish BTC-e would add DOGE, but they would rather keep TRC and FTC instead...

Google turns up a lot of hits for Cryptsy and negative balances. Good luck with that. Sheesh.

yea, don't really understand why btc-e wouldn't add dogecoin since it sees the highest volumes of any crypto right now.

and the google search for me was very disheartening, just kept seeing stories of people waiting weeks for their negative balances to get sorted out (if ever). they say my negative balance is 700k+ dogecoin, so if were to ever bite the bullet and trade btc to dogecoin to "settle" it, it would cost me $800+

i've been submitting two support tickets a day and threatening legal action (i know, right? ), hopefully someone will finally get on it tomorrow. i've even started twitter bombing big vern.

 

[KlokWyze]

yea, don't really understand why btc-e wouldn't add dogecoin since it sees the highest volumes of any crypto right now.

and the google search for me was very disheartening, just kept seeing stories of people waiting weeks for their negative balances to get sorted out (if ever). they say my negative balance is 700k+ dogecoin, so if were to ever bite the bullet and trade btc to dogecoin to "settle" it, it would cost me $800+

i've been submitting two support tickets a day and threatening legal action (i know, right? ), hopefully someone will finally get on it tomorrow. i've even started twitter bombing big vern.

I only trade small amounts of DOGE (10K - 100K) and have never had issues. I did have a couple 1MIL+ transactions, but I sent a test like 100 or 1000(whatever the minimum is) first. Conduct it immediately and don't let it sit. You've got to think ahead and protect yourself at all times. All people and organizations that are out there are GOING to try to fu*k you.

Sh!t, sanctioned national banks take your money on the most ridiculous basis. Why trust a place like Cryptsy? I've been using BTER and have never had an issue. Also, VERY fast transactions. Let me recommend them.

 

[KlokWyze]

BTC/LTC going down.... NXT is up? I want to sell that garbage....