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BD2003

Lifer
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Interesting.....ok someone tell me if I'm missing something here.

I usually use scrypt on clevermining - my GTX 770 and 750 pull about 650 khash combined, and burn about 420W in the process....the 770 would hit 95C if I didnt throttle it back manually. At 0.00227 btc/mh/day, I pull in .0014 BTC a day.

On nicehash running X11, my cards pull about 4000 khash combined, and only burn 260W. The current payout is only 0.0004893 btc/mh/day, but that still comes out to 0.0019 BTC a day, with vastly reduced heat and power draw, which bumps up my profits even more.

So...this seems too good to be true, doesn't it? What's the catch?
 

zhuks

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Nov 30, 2013
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Anyone with a 7970 and/or 7950 running x11? What settings are you running and what speeds are you getting? The 7950's seems to be going correctly, but I have to completely change the 7970 settings (from scrypt) to get decent speeds.
 

Attic

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Jan 9, 2010
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x11 on 7970 IME should be similar to scrypt settings.

Make sure you check the last few pages in this thread to get latest version of sph-sgminer that provides boost in performance for x11.

Core 1000
Mem 1250
intensity 18
gpu threads 4
TC 8192

Is a starting point for 3Mh/s.
 

IEC

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Jun 10, 2004
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Interesting.....ok someone tell me if I'm missing something here.

I usually use scrypt on clevermining - my GTX 770 and 750 pull about 650 khash combined, and burn about 420W in the process....the 770 would hit 95C if I didnt throttle it back manually. At 0.00227 btc/mh/day, I pull in .0014 BTC a day.

On nicehash running X11, my cards pull about 4000 khash combined, and only burn 260W. The current payout is only 0.0004893 btc/mh/day, but that still comes out to 0.0019 BTC a day, with vastly reduced heat and power draw, which bumps up my profits even more.

So...this seems too good to be true, doesn't it? What's the catch?

Why is it too good to be true? It's summer + scrypt ASICs are out with more massive ASICs any day now. So just as we saw with BTC --> LTC, we are now seeing a mass migration of GPU miners away from scrypt-based coins to X11 and/or other algorithms.
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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Anyone try mining with AMD 14.6 betas?

My previous settings give a "Error -61: clCreatebuffer" with this driver on my 290.

I have to use TC of 8192 and intensity of 13 with cgminer. Any higher on the intensity and it spits out a lot of hardware errors.
 

IEC

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Jun 10, 2004
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Nope, still using 13.12 on my mining rigs. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Though I think I will try the 14.6 betas on my gaming rig since that's my bleeding edge machine and I'm prepared to suffer a setback or two
 

wand3r3r

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At some point they worked, I think 14.4 was what I had last. I installed 14.6 now but haven't mined with them.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Why is it too good to be true? It's summer + scrypt ASICs are out with more massive ASICs any day now. So just as we saw with BTC --> LTC, we are now seeing a mass migration of GPU miners away from scrypt-based coins to X11 and/or other algorithms.

I'm mostly shocked at how my GPU can be running full bore mining away at half the wattage that it used to. What's so different about X11 that it consumes less power? I have to assume there was a good reason they chose the algorithms they did for the initial coins.
 

AkumaX

Lifer
Apr 20, 2000
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Anyone try mining with AMD 14.6 betas?

My previous settings give a "Error -61: clCreatebuffer" with this driver on my 290.

I have to use TC of 8192 and intensity of 13 with cgminer. Any higher on the intensity and it spits out a lot of hardware errors.

if -g 2 then -I 13 and TC 8192
if -g 1 then -I 19 and TC 21712
 

KlokWyze

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Sep 7, 2006
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One would think this would happen: Lower Rewards = less coins = less miners = higher demand. However, basically the opposite is true with this coin.

The fact is the price of Doge has been on downward spiral now for months. It's now at 50 Satoshis and dropping daily. There is simply NO demand for Doge. Plain and simple. Doge is also no longer profitable to mine. Go plug your mining numbers into Coinwarz and see if you can get in the black. I sure can't with my farm.

The community you speak of is filled mostly with adolescents posting rubbish on the Reddit sub. "Shibe this" and "Much that"... None of that crap matters in the scheme of things. The only real marketing Doge did was get the Nascar sponsorship funded and that was largely done by accident. One of the donors meant to give 2 Million Doge to the funding project but by accident hit one too many zeros on his keyboard and ended up giving 20 Million instead.

http://www.coindesk.com/moolah-foun...20-million-dogecoin-to-sponsor-nascar-driver/

lol didn't know that. Funny. I still think it will pop back up too 100 Satoshi @ least, but that's pure speculation. I'll just gamble on it.
 

frowertr

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Apr 17, 2010
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Heh, just when ppl all think its dead, it comes back to life.

That's the magic of Doge.

Still, at the current diff and my absurd 30 cents per kWh, pointless to mine, even X11 stuff isnt worth it.

It has "surged" back to around ~60 over the past day or so but it is still a worthless coin. The next halvening will end it for sure unless the mods take drastic action (i.e. fork it to another algo, merge mining with another coin, etc...)

It just isn't a "serious enough" coin to ever get any kind of real traction for legitimate business to accept it as payment.
 

zhuks

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I think I am almost done tweaking the 290x for x11. Stable 4.3mh/s @ 1100mhz core and 1450 memory.

Need to put a bit more work into the 7950's (2.8mh/s) and 7970's (3.2mh/s) once I am done with the 290x.

The 5970 doesn't want to perform nearly as good as the newer cards, but I think it is still related to settings.
 

zhuks

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I got a few PM's about the 290x and what settings I am running.

sgminer 4.1.0 with x11mod.

tc 27400
i 19
g 1
w 64
lookup-gap 2

This is an original BF4 Edition Sapphire card with Elpidia memory.

Currently been running for 24 hours with 0.1% reject and 0 HW errors. Hope it helps.
 

AkumaX

Lifer
Apr 20, 2000
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It has "surged" back to around ~60 over the past day or so but it is still a worthless coin. The next halvening will end it for sure unless the mods take drastic action (i.e. fork it to another algo, merge mining with another coin, etc...)

It just isn't a "serious enough" coin to ever get any kind of real traction for legitimate business to accept it as payment.

I guess my thing is, even if they fork it to another alto, there's already 80,000,000,000 (80 billion coins) out there. i mean, what's left to change, when the last 20% doesn't mean nearly as much as the 1st 80%?
 
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It has "surged" back to around ~60 over the past day or so but it is still a worthless coin. The next halvening will end it for sure unless the mods take drastic action (i.e. fork it to another algo, merge mining with another coin, etc...)

It just isn't a "serious enough" coin to ever get any kind of real traction for legitimate business to accept it as payment.

As oppose to any other altcoin besides LTC? Are you for real to suggest DarkCoin or NextCoin would be supported by legitimate businesses?

The only coin that has any business acceptance is Bitcoin. The rest are pure speculation, hype and mining driven.
 

frowertr

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Apr 17, 2010
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As oppose to any other altcoin besides LTC? Are you for real to suggest DarkCoin or NextCoin would be supported by legitimate businesses?

The only coin that has any business acceptance is Bitcoin. The rest are pure speculation, hype and mining driven.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said Darkcoin or NextCoin would be supported by anyone...
 

Attic

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On x13mod sph-miner mining my 290/290x rig is slowly losing hashing speed over a period of hours. I thought it might have been due to undervolts or clocks, but the behavior is remaining after removing any undervolts and keeping clocks below stock.

Same version of sph-miner is not showing this symptom on 280x system or 270/270x system.

Any ideas? The clocks on the 290/290x gpus are solid to where they should be, but memory is intermittently dropping to 150mhz on a continuing timeline which my other rigs are not doing.

I believe I've seen this issue show up independent of the version of sgminer i'm using and that it's followed 290/290x as well as r9 270 cards.
 
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frowertr

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Apr 17, 2010
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I guess my thing is, even if they fork it to another alto, there's already 80,000,000,000 (80 billion coins) out there. i mean, what's left to change, when the last 20% doesn't mean nearly as much as the 1st 80%?

Bingo! It was broke from the start. Switching to another algo might buy it some time with the diehard "shibes" that are only in this for the hobby of it.
 

zhuks

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Nov 30, 2013
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On x13mod sph-miner mining my 290/290x rig is slowly losing hashing speed over a period of hours. I thought it might have been due to undervolts or clocks, but the behavior is remaining after removing any undervolts and keeping clocks below stock.

Same version of sph-miner is not showing this symptom on 280x system or 270/270x system.

Any ideas? The clocks on the 290/290x gpus are solid to where they should be, but memory is intermittently dropping to 150mhz on a continuing timeline which my other rigs are not doing.

I believe I've seen this issue show up independent of the version of sgminer i'm using.

My friend was having the same problem. Using MSI Afterburner turn on extend official overclocking limits along with unofficial overclocking mode. It fixed his issue.
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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Anyone using Nicehash?

What do you put the difficulty to?
Also, what do they mean in the FAQ about backup pools?

Also, in case anyone is interested, I put my 4570K to mine X11 as well. Gets about 1/5th the speed of a stock 7950.
 
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