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geokilla

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What are people mining right now? I'm starting to give up on FOX. Solo mining isn't getting me anywhere, Luckyminers hasn't found only 5 blocks within the last 400 blocks or so. Ugh.

All these alternative coins are saturating the market as well it's honestly getting a bit annoying. Especially when you see MAX being such a successful pump and dump.
 
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IEC

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Doge and VTC, a 50/50 split in terms of my hashing power.
 

Attic

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Also, in case anyone is interested: http://imgur.com/LgWH9y6

That is awsome. The most dense kh/s per mobo i've seen.

Any issues getting six GPU's going in BAMT 1.5? I'm currently running 5 on 1.2. I've been coming across a lot of mixed experiences with 1.3,1.4,1.5. Was it a boot and go type setup for 1.5 or did you need any big updates/changes?

How bout that power delivery? Dual 20amp or 30amp, was that a new dedicated install for this purpose? I'm bumping into power limits in my home unless I do another run and wondering if a single 20amp dedicated circuit is worth it. Or if I should go bigger.

Got a kh/s per watt ratio and how did you get the 290x over 1mh/s?

Yea a lot of questions, please don't feel obligated to answer all, but i'd appreciate any sharpshooting on what you felt was most important to your build.
 
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Also, in case anyone is interested: http://imgur.com/LgWH9y6

If I was living in a cold climate, its a no brainer to setup a big mining operation. No need to worry about cooling, getting heating byproduct, win win. Coupled with ridiculously cheap electricity.. Northern USA, Canada, Russia etc are perfect places for this.

As I am typing, its 40C outside now. Brutal summers, warm spring/autumn is not ideal. Had to turn off my miners, cannot take the heat anymore.
 

Virge_

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That is awsome. The most dense kh/s per mobo i've seen.

Any issues getting six GPU's going in BAMT 1.5? I'm currently running 5 on 1.2. I've been coming across a lot of mixed experiences with 1.3,1.4,1.5. Was it a boot and go type setup for 1.5 or did you need any big updates/changes?

How bout that power delivery? Dual 20amp or 30amp, was that a new dedicated install for this purpose? I'm bumping into power limits in my home unless I do another run and wondering if a single 20amp dedicated circuit is worth it. Or if I should go bigger.

Got a kh/s per watt ratio and how did you get the 290x over 1mh/s?

Yea a lot of questions, please don't feel obligated to answer all, but i'd appreciate any sharpshooting on what you felt was most important to your build.

BAMT 1.5 is the first BAMT version I've used. I switched because I couldn't get more than 4 GPU's to function in Win7 and didn't have immediate access to Win8x. With Win7 I was running around 830-840 mH/s on scrypt, after installing BAMT (simply run off a flash drive) I was hitting 1005-1015 averages across all cards with the exact same config - so I'd suggest it's a Win 7/64-bit limitation.

I just redid my kitchen and swapped out a dual 40amp breaker when splitting 220 out for an island range, and still had it sitting in my server room.. so simply re-arranged some breakers and added in the previous dual 40a (total of 80a) and swing by a hardware store for a few reels of 8-3. Ran a new dedicated cable to the garage as you see in the image. Simple math told me 80a was enough to run what I need and potentially a little more.

My house is increadibly effecient. Electricity bill in the winter when gas is powering the furnace is something like $60 due to high effeciency appliances and full-house LED lighting so I didn't need to upgrade the service to run a continuous 6000w in the garage. You really only need to upgrade the service if you wire in a new breaker and find you're pulling more actual than the house on high load. I can turn every light and appliance in my house on and still barely cap 3000w so I'm good on overhead.
 

Virge_

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If I was living in a cold climate, its a no brainer to setup a big mining operation. No need to worry about cooling, getting heating byproduct, win win. Coupled with ridiculously cheap electricity.. Northern USA, Canada, Russia etc are perfect places for this.

As I am typing, its 40C outside now. Brutal summers, warm spring/autumn is not ideal. Had to turn off my miners, cannot take the heat anymore.

Yep. -5 degrees outside. First six hours of mining with this rig actually warmed my 4-car garage up to room temperature, so I just opened a window.. problem solved! Free cooling for the next few months, at least - and given the fact that this rig nets me around $6500 USD profit a month running Vertcoin I could afford to put a dedicated 2-ton in the garage if I felt like it.. but currently the plan is to build another 3-4 of these racks and re-locate to a data center.
 

slashbinslashbash

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Does anybody get dropping hashrates on their miners? I bought an XFX 280X DD last night. Tweaked it a bit, got it to around 700-705 khash, I figured that was good for the night and that I could come back later and squeeze out another 20-50k. However, when I came in this morning it was running around 660 khash. Stopped it, started it back up and it got back up to 700+ for a couple of minutes before starting to sink back down.

Now I know to discount the initial crazy high numbers upon startup, but my 7790 would be pretty consistent. Once it got up to speed, it stayed there. This 280X dropping after a while is puzzling.

I'm at -g 2, core 1020 (best for this card, 1010 or 1030 drops), mem 1500, -I 13 (anything else and it drops into the 400's or 500's), TC 8192. Running Win7 on a C2D setup with 2GB of RAM.
 

geokilla

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Yep. -5 degrees outside. First six hours of mining with this rig actually warmed my 4-car garage up to room temperature, so I just opened a window.. problem solved! Free cooling for the next few months, at least - and given the fact that this rig nets me around $6500 USD profit a month running Vertcoin I could afford to put a dedicated 2-ton in the garage if I felt like it.. but currently the plan is to build another 3-4 of these racks and re-locate to a data center.
I thought VTC prices came crashing down just like MAX.
 

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What are people mining right now? I'm starting to give up on FOX. Solo mining isn't getting me anywhere, Luckyminers hasn't found only 5 blocks within the last 400 blocks or so. Ugh.

All these alternative coins are saturating the market as well it's honestly getting a bit annoying. Especially when you see MAX being such a successful pump and dump.

While not as profitable day to day, Protoshares is the only "coin" I see a future for. BitShares (decentralized market) is launching on Feb 28 and anyone who holds protoshares or angelshares on Feb 28 will acquire BitShares from the genesis block.
 

geokilla

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Having a discussion with the Foxcoin developer (Anonyfox) right now on IRC and there's something that popped into my mind. Theoretically, I think the following would work but he says it'd just make things work. What do you think?

With every cryptocoin, there is the danger of the following happening if the pool controls over 50% of the network hashrate:

1. The majority of the blocks will be found by the pool, if not already. See Foxcoin.

2. An abuse of power somehow and attack the coin? Through forking as seen by CAT.

So in order to prevent this, why not lower this threshold from 50% to 30%? Doing it this way will force the following to occur:

1. Instead of having people be greedy and signing up for that one huge pool, miners would be forced to distribute across multiple pools

2. The distribution of the coins would be more fair as each pool has a more equal chance of finding a block since the max is only 30% vs 50%.

3. Because of this, less people would want to risk signing up for a big pool and causing a fork on the network.

CAT and Coinium is the perfect example. Coinium keeps on getting over 51% of the network hash rate, causing the coin to fork multiple times. Yet people keep on signing up for Coinium and mining there due to greed. Even having an announcement on the pool page isn't forcing people away.
 
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KlokWyze

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Also, in case anyone is interested: http://imgur.com/LgWH9y6

That's quite impressive, but i would be quite worried if I made that kind of investment right now.... god speed bro

Currently mining LTC just to check return. DOGE looks like what I should be mining. Couldn't be bothered to get VTC mining set up right now. Probably check it out after I decide whether or not to sell my GPUs and start mining XPM.

Did maxcoin already plummet to oblivion?
 

nwo

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Out of curiosity, why?
Here are some of mine:

-GPUs are simply too overpriced. Even Radeon 270X's are approaching $250 This means it will take you a lot longer to ROI and that time period keeps increasing while prices are decreasing or staying the same...
-Most crypto coins have bottomed out at pretty low prices (LTC has been ~$20 for about 2+ weeks now).
-In addition to that, scrypt asics are also in the works and are already being pre-ordered so it's just a matter of time before they start flooding the market.

I'm glad I got in several months ago. I wish I got in earlier, but I was still at least able to ROI for my video cards. I haven't cashed out though. I might as well wait it out and have some faith.
 

x3sphere

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That's quite impressive, but i would be quite worried if I made that kind of investment right now.... god speed bro

Currently mining LTC just to check return. DOGE looks like what I should be mining. Couldn't be bothered to get VTC mining set up right now. Probably check it out after I decide whether or not to sell my GPUs and start mining XPM.

Did maxcoin already plummet to oblivion?

Should have jumped on Max...

It's plummeting now, but I made another .4 BTC from mining it last night till now on 2x7970 and 2x780. Don't think any other coin comes close to that return.

Still set to give me .15 BTC for today, so it's still the most profitable to mine as far as I can tell. I may go back to VTC after tomorrow though.
 

wand3r3r

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I think we may be in for a drop soon, at least the trend is downwards. This is fine for me since people will jump ship and I'll try collect some coins while/if it's easier. Looking back at history I'm willing to bet it will rise again at some point. It could die off completely too since the whole thing is baseless but I doubt I'll lose sleep over it anyway. On the other hand it could rebound.

For me the most interesting thing in the next week or so will be the dogecoin's halving of rewards.
 

Mark R

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SCrypt Mining profitability has fallen off a cliff in recent days, unless you are doing something clever.

I got lucky and jumped on the launch of TOP, a little pump-and-dump later, and I'm 1.25 BTC richer from a few hours of mining @ 5 MH/s.

Being a lazy MF, I've found it easier to lease out my mining rigs via a mine rental service. Other people pay a big premium to mine whatever the pump-and-dump coin du jour is. I just sit back, and watch the BTC drop into my wallet.

Of course, I'm also a voyeur, and I like to see what people mine. I've had several BIG customers mining on private profit switching pools and I've seen all manner of pump and dumps, Aurora, Corgicon, Onioncoin, etc.

And then you just get the nubs/crazies. Someone paid 0.03 BTC/MH-day and all they did was mine DOGE. DOGE mining only yields approx 0.01 BTC/MH-day!

The only problem has been incessant e-mails, asking for me to configure cgminer for SHA3.
 

Mark R

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Just an update.

I've now been mining for 10 weeks. I had 9 cards - 6 XFX Black Edition 7950s, but also 1x MSI 7950, 1 XFX Boost edition 7950 and a Gigabyte 7950.

1 XFX Black 7950 was DOA.
1 XFX Black 7950 died spontaneously and no longer powered up after 3 weeks.
3 XFX Black 7950 have had seized fans.
1 XFX Black 7950 has serious thermal problems, probably due to incorrectly applied thermal compound (roasting core, cold heatsink with fans screaming and blowing cold air).

The MSI card (bought off ebay) works fine, but has a noticeably lower hash rate than the XFX cards, probably due to memory timings.

Most of the cards are still liming along. The DOA one was RMAd, but that was the last replacement available.
The dead one has been replaced by a Powercolor 280x, which is hashing nicely, and low temperature and low fan speed.
 

Virge_

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Kind of seems like if you don't manage to jump onboard a new alt-coin in the first day or two you basically lose your ass.. what resources are people using to find the new ones as they're released?

Side note, I think I'm sticking with Vertcoin. It's the only scrypt coin that won't be tanked by scrypt ASICs unless another one forks.
 

wbynum

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SCrypt Mining profitability has fallen off a cliff in recent days, unless you are doing something clever.

I got lucky and jumped on the launch of TOP, a little pump-and-dump later, and I'm 1.25 BTC richer from a few hours of mining @ 5 MH/s.

Being a lazy MF, I've found it easier to lease out my mining rigs via a mine rental service. Other people pay a big premium to mine whatever the pump-and-dump coin du jour is. I just sit back, and watch the BTC drop into my wallet.

Of course, I'm also a voyeur, and I like to see what people mine. I've had several BIG customers mining on private profit switching pools and I've seen all manner of pump and dumps, Aurora, Corgicon, Onioncoin, etc.

And then you just get the nubs/crazies. Someone paid 0.03 BTC/MH-day and all they did was mine DOGE. DOGE mining only yields approx 0.01 BTC/MH-day!

The only problem has been incessant e-mails, asking for me to configure cgminer for SHA3.

How are you leasing your rigs? Through leaserig.net or something else?
 

bob32768

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Kind of seems like if you don't manage to jump onboard a new alt-coin in the first day or two you basically lose your ass.. what resources are people using to find the new ones as they're released?

Side note, I think I'm sticking with Vertcoin. It's the only scrypt coin that won't be tanked by scrypt ASICs unless another one forks.

They're usually announced in the Bitcointalk forum for alternative currency announcements. There's also twitter and a few other places (reddit).

The BTC forum can be a bit much to wade through (lots of launched coins still have threads there, so it's hard to see what's new). On the other hand, anything new that's just bog-standard scrypt will be picked up by profit pools (hashcows, middlecoin, etc.) pretty quickly. Anything more exotic (Max, VTC, etc.) requiring different mining software takes more effort. It's really a tradeoff if you can get in early while difficulty is low, then trade out after the initial spike.

Lately the entire altcoin market is starting to feel like a farce. Most are silly memes or obvious pump-and-dump pre-mines with a few interesting tweaks here and there, but nothing drastic. Nearly every new coin launch these days seems to be following a see-saw pattern where low difficulty makes it the hot commodity for a few days, masses of people pile on, then the value drops, many abandon mining, and the difficulty falls. A week or so later, it's starts another upswing. Rinse and repeat.

Looking at the chart on coinwarz, the only thing with any stability is BTC (aside from the recent drop). LTC used to be fairly stable, but now it's trending down and starting to cycle--obviously affected by all the scrypt altcoins stealing hashing power. And yet every week there's yet another scrypt coin launched. The whole thing is a massive pile of hope-you-get-rich-quick launches with all the money moving in a giant circle from BTC to altcoins and back.

I'm waiting for a seriously innovative currency to be released that addresses all the major shortcomings of BTC and isn't just another me-too variant with a few tweaks -- if you want to build the next generation currency, merely locking out FPGAs and ASICs isn't going to cut it.

I suspect a true successor will be a long way off. In the meantime I continue to plod along with my aged 6950 on middlecoin and still manage around 0.04-0.05 BTC/day, which is profitable for me. At the very least, there's still money to be made from all the speculation.
 
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