Cryptocoin Mining?

[Red Hawk]

Ok I'm trying to set up cgminer to mine to Dogehouse, but I'm running into a problem with making the batch file. Following this guide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm62ubeCMh4

But it's giving me an error message. Here's what I put in the file (minus the worker name and password)

cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://stratum7.dogehouse.org:9090 -u x -p x -I 18 -g 2 --thread-concurrency 15232 --auto-fan --temp-target 85 --temp-overheat 99 --temp-cutoff 105

Anything obviously wrong?

 

[Attic]

Ok I'm trying to set up cgminer to mine to Dogehouse, but I'm running into a problem with making the batch file. Following this guide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm62ubeCMh4

But it's giving me an error message. Here's what I put in the file (minus the worker name and password)

cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://stratum7.dogehouse.org:9090 -u x -p x -I 18 -g 2 --thread-concurrency 15232 --auto-fan --temp-target 85 --temp-overheat 99 --temp-cutoff 105

Anything obviously wrong?

-g 1

Those temp settings are too high IMO. 15232 corresponds to a 270 or 270x from what i've seen, temps should be <80.

 

[Shmee]

Try setting 1500 MHz ram while cgminer is mining (or GUIMiner). I've found my elpida 290x can handle 1500MHz fine, but sometimes it prefers to be in use (under load) when switching it from 1250. The memory timings are best around 1250 and 1500 for mine, 1505 will drop dramatically as it will between the 1250-1500 gap.

My elpida card also likes the core at 900 while the memory is at 1500, I'm not 100% sure if this is a core:memory ratio, or due to the poor timings on the elpida card. I'm waiting to see what The Stilts BIOS does to it.

Hmm, I tried setting 1500 earlier, but it did not seem very stable. Is there a way to unlock higher voltage for MSI afterburner than just +100 mV?

 

[Attic]

Ok, this is a crash.

On BTC-e it looked like there was no support below 600 and the thing traded at 200. Few folks who had buy orders in there got in at that level. Wow.

Edit: Actually it looks like it traded as low as 102.... That'll hit the wires and ignite more selling.

Feels planned, the gox release was penned to be incredibly damaging while shielding itself in some general blah blah. But that release was exactly what would crash the market. Bitcoin is fundamentally flawed and oh yea, we aren't going to let anyone move BTC from our website and our withdrawal mess is still a go.

Well, wow. Should be interesting next couple days/weeks.

 

[Red Hawk]

-g 1

Those temp settings are too high IMO. 15232 corresponds to a 270 or 270x from what i've seen, temps should be <80.

What exactly does the -g setting do? The person in the video set his to 2, and on this list:

https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

some 7870s have it as 1 while some have 2. The 270/270x is basically a 7870 with GPU boost and faster RAM. That list also has a few 7870s at 15232. But again, what exactly does that setting do?

I got it working with the default .bat file that Dogehouse provides, which just leaves it at -I d and nothing else. I tried putting back the manual settings but removing the manual fan and temperature controls, and it started mining without any error, but my PC chugged like crazy and the display driver crashed.

Edit: I changed -g to 1 and tried again. The PC still chugs a bit but nothing crashes.

 

[Attic]

What exactly does the -g setting do? The person in the video set his to 2, and on this list:

https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

some 7870s have it as 1 while some have 2. The 270/270x is basically a 7870 with GPU boost and faster RAM. That list also has a few 7870s at 15232. But again, what exactly does that setting do?

I got it working with the default .bat file that Dogehouse provides, which just leaves it at -I d and nothing else. I tried putting back the manual settings but removing the manual fan and temperature controls, and it started mining without any error, but my PC chugged like crazy and the display driver crashed.

It stands for "gpu threads" i'm not clear on what it does, but the general rule is to run 7970/280x at -I 13, -g 2 and everything else at an -I up to 20 with -g 1.

On 270's I get best hashing at -I 19, but fewer rejects at -I 18.

If display driver is crashing, i'd try the settings you posted with -I 17 and -g 1. Setting -I too high makes the system feel like swimming through molasses.

Try core at 975 and mem 1200 in your testing. Always keep an eye on the "WU" field in cgminer. It stands for work utility and is the best measure of how much work you will actually be paid for. It should be ~.9-.92 of your reported hash rate. WU is only accurate after a minimum of a few hours, preferably 24.

 

[wand3r3r]

Ok I'm trying to set up cgminer to mine to Dogehouse, but I'm running into a problem with making the batch file. Following this guide:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm62ubeCMh4

But it's giving me an error message. Here's what I put in the file (minus the worker name and password)

cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://stratum7.dogehouse.org:9090 -u x -p x -I 18 -g 2 --thread-concurrency 15232 --auto-fan --temp-target 85 --temp-overheat 99 --temp-cutoff 105

Anything obviously wrong?

Remove everything after intensity, and start at 12 until you confirm it works. Bump up intensity then. Add threads later. Use afterburner to monitor. Add other temp stuff later, although stock or afterburner work well too.

 

[Red Hawk]

It stands for "gpu threads" i'm not clear on what it does, but the general rule is to run 7970/280x at -I 13, -g 2 and everything else at an -I up to 20 with -g 1.

On 270's I get best hashing at -I 19, but fewer rejects at -I 18.

If display driver is crashing, i'd try the settings you posted with -I 17 and -g 1. Setting -I too high makes the system feel like swimming through molasses.

Try core at 975 and mem 1200 in your testing. Always keep an eye on the "WU" field in cgminer. It stands for work utility and is the best measure of how much work you will actually be paid for. It should be ~.9-.92 of your reported hash rate. WU is only accurate after a minimum of a few hours, preferably 24.

I have it at -I 18 and -g 1 now; nothing's crashing, but you're right, the system does feel like molasses. I'm a little confused why, as Task Manager is showing the CPU is going virtually unused. I also made sure to disable hardware acceleration in my browser, Firefox. What do the -I and --thread-concurrency settings do? In any case, I have my GPU core set to 1100 MHz and memory set to 1210 MHz (the card is factory overclocked to 1010/1210).

Also, in my Dogehouse account settings there's fields for "donation percentage" and "automatic payout threshold". Any idea what the donation is exactly, and if I want to do it? I assume lower is probably better for the payment threshold.

 

[Attic]

Well that crash was engineered IMO.

Basically Gox comes out and says the Bitcoin protocol is broken,... Bitcoin Devs respond and say no, it's a Gox issue. It does appear to be a gox issue. But by gox releasing that statement, someone or some group was able to BUY huge amounts of BTC at very low levels.

Anyways, hope gox dies soon. They seem all bad and corrupt through and through.

 

[holden j caufield]

someone's bot went crazy and sold at 100. Was it 1 coin or like thousands? Should always have super low bids just in case

 

[Attic]

I have it at -I 18 and -g 1 now; nothing's crashing, but you're right, the system does feel like molasses. I'm a little confused why, as Task Manager is showing the CPU is going virtually unused. I also made sure to disable hardware acceleration in my browser, Firefox. What do the -I and --thread-concurrency settings do?

Also, in my Dogehouse account settings there's fields for "donation percentage" and "automatic payout threshold". Any idea what the donation is exactly, and if I want to do it? I assume lower is probably better for the payment threshold.

You can try setting the system performance to "best performance" under advanced system settings tab to alleviate some of that chug chug feel in windows.

Donation would be in addition to any fees the pool takes. The fees are most likely between 0.5-3%, but the website should have that info displayed somewhere. Automatic payout threshold i'd keep high until you setup a wallet or get an account at an exchange where you can send the coinage too.

Main thing is to get mining nice and stable. Card has to run at stable basically 24/7 for the trouble of getting into mining to be worth it. Having to run around monitoring or resetting all this BS gets tiring real quick. Can look at CGwatcher if you're interested in automating some of the process and intend to set up additional miners.

 

[Attic]

someone's bot went crazy and sold at 100. Was it 1 coin or like thousands? Should always have super low bids just in case

Yep, few folks had the low bid and made out real well.

What irks me is the appearance of a setup to flush the book. Somebody knew there was sell orders down there, just a matter of crashing the market to pick up the cheap coins. Don't like it.

But I never sit in much if any bitcoin.

Looks pretty bad to see the market tap dance like this though.

 

[Red Hawk]

You can try setting the system performance to "best performance" under advanced system settings tab to alleviate some of that chug chug feel in windows.

Donation would be in addition to any fees the pool takes. The fees are most likely between 0.5-3%, but the website should have that info displayed somewhere. Automatic payout threshold i'd keep high until you setup a wallet or get an account at an exchange where you can send the coinage too.

Main thing is to get mining nice and stable. Card has to run at stable basically 24/7 for the trouble of getting into mining to be worth it. Having to run around monitoring or resetting all this BS gets tiring real quick. Can look at CGwatcher if you're interested in automating some of the process and intend to set up additional miners.

Ok. Since I've been mining, the GPU temp appears to be holding at 73 degrees in Afterburner. Does that seem right?

Thanks for the tips btw.

 

[holden j caufield]

well if you put in the first buy order at 100 coins for $100 and set the sell order at 100 coins at $100. You'd just be transferring coins to yourself and make it look like a huge panic. I guess you could just test it and see if your orders for $100 buy were first by selling just 1 coin for $100 then you'd know for sure if you were first in the queue.

 

[Attic]

Ok. Since I've been mining, the GPU temp appears to be holding at 73 degrees in Afterburner. Does that seem right?

Thanks for the tips btw.

Sure thing. 73 lines up with my experience on similar cards using auto fan settings while mining and not overclocking the bejeesus out of the gpu.

 

[Red Hawk]

Sure thing. 73 lines up with my experience on similar cards using auto fan settings while mining and not overclocking the bejeesus out of the gpu.

Great. I got a wallet set up on DogeVault and linked it to my DogeHouse account. I guess now I'll just build up some doge and figure out what to do with it once I have it. With how much it makes my PC chug, seems like I'll be using my laptop a lot more for browsing when my desktop is busy mining.

 

[Attic]

Bitcoin Devs Respond to Mt Gox press release

<gmaxwell> The Gox press release seems a little &#8216;spun&#8217; to me. They portray characteristics of the Bitcoin system well known since at least 2011 (which even have their own wiki page ) as something new.

These characteristics are annoying but don&#8217;t inhibit basic operation. They are slowly being fixed &#8211; but fixing them completely will likely take years as they require changing all wallet software. Correctly-written wallet software can cope with the consequences, and I cannot understand why they would gate their withdraws on external changes.

<GG> Andreas Antonopolous has examined Gox&#8217;s code to some degree, and remarked that they are using a strange &#8220;hodgepodge of technologies that are really not suitable for running an exchange.&#8221; Do you believe the problem lies in their code rather than the Bitcoin protocol?

<gmaxwell> Oh there is a &#8220;problem&#8221; in the Bitcoin protocol, known since at least 2011 (see the link I gave). But for normal applications, not involving unconfirmed transactions, it shouldn&#8217;t cause any severe problems because wallets can handle it locally.

Basically, third parties can change the transaction IDs of transactions. This means what wallet software must be written to accomodate that and still recognize them when that happens.

What the press release talks about is adding a second kind of transaction ID, which is robust against changes, which would be helpful for tech support purposes. Though it doesn&#8217;t resolve all of the issues that being able to modify transactions presents.

...

More in the link.


Terribly irresponsible of Gox. I think they are in worse shape than a lot of folks realize.

 

[Red Hawk]

Can you explain what exactly is going on with the crash and what Gox is, please?

 

[IEC]

Can you explain what exactly is going on with the crash and what Gox is, please?

Mt. Gox was the largest and most well-known Bitcoin to fiat exchange. They went under new owners in 2011 or something and have been going downhill since, losing marketshare and randomly freezing withdrawals. Since it looks like there is a major "bank run" on Gox right now, they are throwing up smoke and mirrors about a "Bitcoin issue" when it's mostly their implementation of the exchange software to blame.

Smells like a well-engineered market "crash" to me, intended for someone with deep pockets to scoop up a lot of cheap BTC.

You're seeing the dark side of crypto - the one where people will lie, cheat, and steal in order to make a buck. Never trust an exchange or third party to hold onto your coins for you - the safest place is on an ENCRYPTED official wallet.

 

[IEC]

BTW, seems like most major exchanges danced with the $500 range before rebounding - but somebody goosed the books at BTC-e - it's the only exchange where ~$100 sells appear to have printed.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Bitcoin Devs Respond to Mt Gox press release

More in the link.

Terribly irresponsible of Gox. I think they are in worse shape than a lot of folks realize.

This is a manufactured panic. The sooner Gox is liquidated the better.

 

[Red Hawk]

Question: Does GPU memory clock speed effect hashrates, and if so, how much would an overclock of 100 or 120 MHz effect my hashrate?

 

[playah]

Sold 200k DOGE at 190 satoshi... Now it's at 220 satoshi. I'm a sad panda.

Sold double that and had same feeling, couldn't stay awake.

 

[IEC]

Question: Does GPU memory clock speed effect hashrates, and if so, how much would an overclock of 100 or 120 MHz effect my hashrate?

You really won't know how your hashrate will be affected until you try it. There is too much variance in memory timing profiles in different manufacturers' BIOSes that it's difficult to predict whether hashrates will go up, or go down.

 

[SunnyD]

I won't be selling Doge until it's over 9000.