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So, what's the next Maxcoin?

I made 0.15 BTC on it since last night but price and profit are declining - combined with DOGE's average reward per block halving in a few days, it'll be a 1-2 punch... unless DOGE's price doubles.

Yep its going to be a gamble... those who believe in Doge will definitely see its price skyrocketing after the block halving. All I can say is Dogecoin hasn't failed me yet.
 

f1sherman

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f1sherman, I'm running on Linux. What I've done is pull the git tree here:

https://github.com/Eropi4/cgminer_keccak

and compiled it with keccak support. It's made from cgminer 3.6.6.

I'll be doing more digging and will let you know what happens!

Ah Linux, yes... I remember it vaguely.

It's more about the journey, then the destination itself?



Don't forget to compile it against your custom made speed kernel lol
 

frowertr

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I could never get the custom CGminer builds to compile to even mine Max. Oh well, Doges seems to be kicking ass and with block halving coming up I expect it to surge.
 

geokilla

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Can you guys link me this anti-max coin? Better not be a pump and dump.

hey guys I have to warn you about bter.com

I didn't do my homework and it seems to be a very poorly run site with no support. A lot of people have lost a lot of coins so I'm trying to save you the trouble. I've got a lot of coins stuck there now.

I had no problems with BTer. That's where I sold my DOGE for BTC. Only complaint is that I have maybe .00000001 DOGE and .00001 BTC stuck there.

So, what's the next Maxcoin?

I made 0.15 BTC on it since last night but price and profit are declining - combined with DOGE's average reward per block halving in a few days, it'll be a 1-2 punch... unless DOGE's price doubles.
I regret not mining more MAX after reading that. I also regret selling my DOGE... I'm mining DOGE right now. Every little bit counts! FOX wasn't doing me any good anyways.
 

SunnyD

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Alright - akc.poolminewith.us is up, but there is no stratum yet!!!. The coin won't be launched for about another 36 hours give or take, assuming it's actually legit.

 

zhorx

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So, I've finally found the right sources with the keccak code in them.

For any person trying to get this working, check out git here:

https://github.com/reorder/cgminer_keccak.git

ran autogen.sh and ./configure --enable-keccak --enable-scrypt --enable-opencl

Make sure you copy ADL SDK headers in your source ADL_SDK for opencl to work proper.

When running check your reject rate, the other versions would get a 100% reject rate on maxcoin pools. Enjoy!
 
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Mark R

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Alright - akc.poolminewith.us is up, but there is no stratum yet!!!. The coin won't be launched for about another 36 hours give or take, assuming it's actually legit.

Great stuff.

Ah. I see you've managed to get the pool high up in the thread. Prepare for some punishment when the coin launches, lol.
 

slashbinslashbash

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Yay! I have 927.69 Doge in my wallet!

...now what do I do with it?

Hold on to it, or if you want to cash it out, you'll need to convert it to Bitcoin. You do this through an exchange such as Cryptsy. Then cash it out at a place such as Coinbase that exchanges BTC for dollars.

In doing all of this, you will need to transfer the coins from one account/wallet to another. So say you're using Cryptsy and Coinbase. First, you create an account with Cryptsy and then go to their Doge page, say that you want to receive Doge, and it will generate a unique address for your Cryptsy account to receive Doge. You use your wallet to transmit the Doge to this account. You then can trade your Doge for BTC (or whatever other coins you might want).

Assuming you want to convert to BTC, you set up your BTC wallet, get the receiving address for it, and enter that address into Cryptsy as your BTC withdrawal address. Then you will have the coins in your BTC wallet. Then you do the same process with Coinbase, transferring the coins to your Coinbase BTC account. Alternatively, you could transfer straight from Cryptsy to Coinbase.

Also, Vault of Satoshi can apparently cash out Doge directly. I have not used them, but apparently they are fairly reputable; but in the US, Coinbase is the only 100% reputable BTC-to-USD company, AFAIK.

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I guess I should say, Cryptsy has had some very public problems with Doge deposits and withdrawals lately. I personally have not had any problems with them, although I haven't run any Doge through Cryptsy in a week or so.
 
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geokilla

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According to Suchcoins, I'm supposed to have over 3000 DOGE if I mine with them each day. Right now, I got less than 1000 DOGE... Not sure if pool went bad or just some pool has all the network hash.
 

Red Hawk

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Hold on to it, or if you want to cash it out, you'll need to convert it to Bitcoin. You do this through an exchange such as Cryptsy. Then cash it out at a place such as Coinbase that exchanges BTC for dollars.

In doing all of this, you will need to transfer the coins from one account/wallet to another. So say you're using Cryptsy and Coinbase. First, you create an account with Cryptsy and then go to their Doge page, say that you want to receive Doge, and it will generate a unique address for your Cryptsy account to receive Doge. You use your wallet to transmit the Doge to this account. You then can trade your Doge for BTC (or whatever other coins you might want).

Assuming you want to convert to BTC, you set up your BTC wallet, get the receiving address for it, and enter that address into Cryptsy as your BTC withdrawal address. Then you will have the coins in your BTC wallet. Then you do the same process with Coinbase, transferring the coins to your Coinbase BTC account. Alternatively, you could transfer straight from Cryptsy to Coinbase.

Also, Vault of Satoshi can apparently cash out Doge directly. I have not used them, but apparently they are fairly reputable; but in the US, Coinbase is the only 100% reputable BTC-to-USD company, AFAIK.

My pool's website, dogehouse.org, currently has a warning up against using Cryptsy:
Cryptsy broke their promise of resolving deposits/withdrawals again - so we are again warning you - stop using them until they fix their issues!

Also, I have a wallet set up with the Dogecoin app -- do I need to have it running whenever I expect to receive a dogecoin transfer from the pool? Does encrypting the wallet have any effect on receiving transactions? I encrypted it after receiving the first transaction. I'm also uncertain where the dogecoins are stored locally on my PC, and how.

Edit: According to Vault of Satoshi's last dogecoin price, I have $1.41 worth of dogecoins. Heh, enough to buy a soda. And the best part about this is? I'm currently living in an townhouse where my electricity bill is contractually covered by the landlord.
 
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slashbinslashbash

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My pool's website, dogehouse.org, currently has a warning up against using Cryptsy:
Cryptsy broke their promise of resolving deposits/withdrawals again - so we are again warning you - stop using them until they fix their issues!

Also, I have a wallet set up with the Dogecoin app -- do I need to have it running whenever I expect to receive a dogecoin transfer from the pool? Does encrypting the wallet have any effect on receiving transactions? I encrypted it after receiving the first transaction. I'm also uncertain where the dogecoins are stored locally on my PC, and how.

Yeah, sorry, I put up an edit about Cryptsy. There are other exchanges out there though.

No, you don't have to have the app running to receive your Doge.

The way it works is, they are never really "stored" on your computer, or anywhere. They are only shown to be under your address on the public ledger. So at this moment, the public ledger shows 927.69 Doge have been attributed to your address. These were sent from another address (belonging to the pool), but coins can also be mined directly, and these coins show up somewhat differently in the ledger.

But your address is just the public key to a private key/public key encryption system. The private key is what is kept secret in your wallet. It is just a string of numbers and letters, much like what your public address looks like. It is not even very long. This private key is what is encrypted.

The private key "unlocks" the public key. It is kind of complicated to explain, but I'll give it a go.

It is easy to figure out the public key from the private key, but almost impossible to figure out the private key from the public key. This is why it is no problem to give out your public key. Somebody would have to work for millions of years to be able to figure out your private key based on your public key -- all by trial and error.

But since you have access to the private key, you can generate messages that are "signed" with it -- that have its unique signature in the messages. These messages can be verified, using your public key, as coming from you. (This is how pretty much all forms of computer encryption work, from SSL in your browser to PGP for emails.) The way that this all works is based on some complicated mathematics that I'm not sure I ever really understood, and if I did then I forgot it years ago. I think it has to do with large prime numbers being multiplied together.

So, anyway. You can sign messages using your private key. This is built in to the QT client for most coins; click on the "Receive" tab, then choose an incoming address, then "Sign Message" down at the bottom. You can paste a message into the "Message" part, and then click "Sign Message", and it will create a hash of that message (signature) that verifies that this message comes from the wallet with this address. It has been signed with your private key, and it can be verified against your public key, so people can confirm that it came from your address.

Now, a transaction is just a special message, signed with your private key, that can be verified against your public key, that says "I'm sending 200.00 Doge from my account D315jsfaj902 to account D9safj3iL", and this message is sent out to all of the Dogecoin nodes that your wallet is connected to. This message propagates across the Dogecoin network, and soon enough it will be added into a Block by a miner.

Once that happens, the transaction is recorded permanently. It takes some time to be "verified" (confirmed after a certain number of blocks). At this point, it is permanently in the Dogecoin public ledger, and everybody can see it forever. The ledger is like a bank that keeps everybody's account balances out in the open, along with every transaction that ever occurred. Everybody can see that your account started with 927.69 Doge, and now it has 200.00 less, so now your account has 727.69 Doge. Every node in the Dogecoin network knows this equally; including your wallet. However, your wallet is the only node that has your private key.

So now you can see why there are the warnings about storing your coins on "online wallets" -- the private keys for those wallets are stored on the servers for those services. They can much more easily be stolen from some web server than from your own computer (assuming you don't leave your computer lying around in public places).
 

wand3r3r

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The wallet is stored in C:\Users\%\AppData\Roaming\Dogecoin\wallet.dat.

You can backup the encrypted wallet somewhere too. Take a backup copy of it and duplicate it across e.g. a USB drive, CD, and your HDD if you really want to be safe. If your HDD breaks, you can never get the coins out of your wallet.
 

Red Hawk

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Ok, I think I understand. The dogecoins are not stored on my PC, the encryption key to access my dogecoin wallet and make transfers from it are.

Thanks again for all the help! I think I'll take the simple route and use Satoshi to convert from dogecoins to USD for the time being.
 

slashbinslashbash

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Ok, I think I understand. The dogecoins are not stored on my PC, the encryption key to access my dogecoin wallet and make transfers from it are.

Thanks again for all the help! I think I'll take the simple route and use Satoshi to convert from dogecoins to USD for the time being.

Check the fees first, I know that Coinbase charges like $15 to do a transfer to your bank account, so you might want to wait a while to build up enough to make it worthwhile.

Or... hit the exchanges, or a casino. Some people in this thread have done very well for themselves by trading from one coin to another. And in a casino, you could hit it really big and make it worthwhile to withdraw to cash. Of course, you are much more likely to lose it all, but there's always the entertainment value of it.

EDIT: Or, tell you what. You can transfer your Doge to me, and I will send you a check in the mail, based on the Satoshi price at the time that you send me the Doge, minus the price of a stamp. I have decent Heatware Seriously though -- it would be kind of fun.
 
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frowertr

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I use Coins-e.com for my transfers. I typically move 150K Doge Coins per day and they never give me any issues.
 

frowertr

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So, I've finally found the right sources with the keccak code in them.

For any person trying to get this working, check out git here:

https://github.com/reorder/cgminer_keccak.git

ran autogen.sh and ./configure --enable-keccak --enable-scrypt --enable-opencl

Make sure you copy ADL SDK headers in your source ADL_SDK for opencl to work proper.

When running check your reject rate, the other versions would get a 100% reject rate on maxcoin pools. Enjoy!

Which version of the ADL SDK and APP SDK did you use to compile?
 

holden j caufield

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is coins-e or coinedup reliable and how is support. Cryptsy is horrible, they are doing something shady with the doges. When the market is high your deposit takes days, when it's low they deposit your coins. Bter isn't reliable for me either. Vircurex is ok but the volume is so so.
 

SunnyD

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is coins-e or coinedup reliable and how is support. Cryptsy is horrible, they are doing something shady with the doges. When the market is high your deposit takes days, when it's low they deposit your coins. Bter isn't reliable for me either. Vircurex is ok but the volume is so so.

Coins-e is a scam. I have a support ticket in with them and very $100 worth of coins I never reveived from cashing out because THEY don't bother to make sure their coin daemons are on the correct fork. The ticket remains unanswered after over a month now, and their fix was to simply take the coin into maintenance mode.
 
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I have no issues with CoinEX, its fine for Doge movement since its got enough volume now.

The best so far is Bter.com, very fast deposits and withdrawl, no issues with lag. Cryptsy has terrible servers and as soon as load picks up (during frantic trading action), it lags so bad and obviously the deposit or withdrawl delays are well known.
 
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