Cryptocoin Mining?

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etrin

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at one time all the money and goods were virtual just like the coins.
I can't believe its real goods now and the gov is not on it with both feet.
personally I wish they would outlaw it or let them pay a ton of taxes like I do.
 

Binky

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Everyone's too busy with this shiny new coin to give me context on how the dogecoin halving is effecting the value, it seems.

The mining profitability of Doge is currently less than even litecoin. At current prices, Doge is dead for mining. You can look at coinwarz or coinchoose, but note that coinchoose is still reflecting a 500,000 block reward, which is wrong (should be 250k), so divide the profitability in half.
 

f1sherman

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Everyone's too busy with this shiny new coin to give me context on how the dogecoin halving is effecting the value, it seems.

well it's DOGE inflation that got halved, not total DOGE supply

far too many ppl took block halving as indication of doge price doubling, when simple network hash adjustment can deal with DOGE profitability (diff already at 1.2k)

also, BTC is recovering

I mentioned all this be4

The mining profitability of Doge is currently less than even litecoin. At current prices, Doge is dead for mining. You can look at coinwarz or coinchoose, but note that coinchoose is still reflecting a 500,000 block reward, which is wrong (should be 250k), so divide the profitability in half.

you don't really understand how all this works?

Doge is dead for mining - means ppl are exiting DOGE mining right?
So there is less people sharing DOGE blocks and very soon it's profitability is back to normal.
 
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slashbinslashbash

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well it's DOGE inflation that got halved, not total DOGE supply

far too many ppl took block halving as indication of doge price doubling, when simple network hash adjustment can deal with DOGE profitability (diff already at 1.2k)

also, BTC is recovering

I mentioned all this be4



you don't really understand how all this works?

Doge is dead for mining - means ppl are exiting DOGE mining right?
So there is less people sharing DOGE blocks and very soon it's profitability is back to normal.

Unfortunately, DOGE/BTC has dropped back down to ~240 Satoshis. It was up around 270-280 yesterday.
 

geokilla

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at one time all the money and goods were virtual just like the coins.
I can't believe its real goods now and the gov is not on it with both feet.
personally I wish they would outlaw it or let them pay a ton of taxes like I do.

You're crazy.

Did the price of AMD cards again Skyrocket?

Yessir...

290X's are now $900, 280X's $600, 270X's $300
I hope AMD is behind some of these price increases in order to help the company become more profitable in order to take advantage of the situation. It'd suck if it was only the retailers raking in all the profits.
 

Unoid

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I hope AMD is behind some of these price increases in order to help the company become more profitable in order to take advantage of the situation. It'd suck if it was only the retailers raking in all the profits.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I don't think AMD really is. Those batches of chips from tmsc were on a set contract. Who knows when AMD would have the chance to set new terms? Could have been December? could be in the future still.

I'm sure AMD is selling set tray like prices per 1000 chips to board manu's.

even if AMD does increase the chip price by 50%, gamers will get hosed and it will seriously hurt Mantle's future adoption. (short term)
 

Binky

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you don't really understand how all this works?

Doge is dead for mining - means ppl are exiting DOGE mining right?
So there is less people sharing DOGE blocks and very soon it's profitability is back to normal.

What are you talking about? I really don't care what the profit will be tomorrow, or next week, or next year, if I'm talking about profit TODAY. At current prices and current rewards, it is not worth mining Doge. If you have a different opinion, please share. Simple math will prove you wrong. You can even mine LTC, and exchange them for Doge, and have MORE Doge than mining Doge directly.

I think I have a pretty good grasp of how this works. As of right now, mining LTC will earn you $X per hour per KH, and mining Doge will earn you less than $X per hour per KH.
 

SunnyD

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pray tell, why would I care to mine any of those unknown altcoins?

Usually jumping on brand spankin' new coins nets some quick and dirty profits in the first couple days before they fall off the map, and/or rebound later on. Generally you can make far in excess of what current active/stable coins make by 2x-10x before they even get listed on an exchange.

I'm not actively trying to pimp my pool here, I'm just telling facts. You're welcome to mine whatever you want.
 

Mark R

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Oct 9, 1999
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Well. I don't think SunnyD was the only one with pool problems.

I set my mine up to coinardia mining panda before going to bed. Woke up to find bupkis. No blocks mined on that pool. Decent hash rate, but nothing to show for it.

I've got 250k over the last 9 hours on dedicated pool, and it has now confirmed into my wallet. I've no idea if 250k is good for 1.5 MH/s - I have no concept of what PANDA is worth, but I'd guess, that's a pretty poor show.
 

wand3r3r

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Usually jumping on brand spankin' new coins nets some quick and dirty profits in the first couple days before they fall off the map, and/or rebound later on. Generally you can make far in excess of what current active/stable coins make by 2x-10x before they even get listed on an exchange.

I'm not actively trying to pimp my pool here, I'm just telling facts. You're welcome to mine whatever you want.

Yeah that's the way it's been, but it's still a gamble. I hit a couple launches which I haven't gained anything, then others have more than made up for it. :thumbsup:
 

Mark R

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I think we should develop a "special situations" profit-switching mining pool.

It would automatically direct hashes the the newest altcoins. That would be an interesting project.

A "hedge pool" would be awesome.
 

UNhooked

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Been minining Mintcoin, which is now a POW coin but will convert to a POS coin. That would make it similar to NXT..

Then mined AKC for a day or so but now back to MAX coin. That coin is way too profitable to not mine.

Plus it's easy on the cards. I average to 550 Watts running two 290s. So saving on my electric bill as well.

On a diff topic any idea what led to the sky high prices on AMD cards? I know they were already high to begin with due to the mining influx but what made it go even higher?
 

T_Yamamoto

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Well. I don't think SunnyD was the only one with pool problems.

I set my mine up to coinardia mining panda before going to bed. Woke up to find bupkis. No blocks mined on that pool. Decent hash rate, but nothing to show for it.

I've got 250k over the last 9 hours on dedicated pool, and it has now confirmed into my wallet. I've no idea if 250k is good for 1.5 MH/s - I have no concept of what PANDA is worth, but I'd guess, that's a pretty poor show.
I mined 30K right off the bat. After that, it's been slow. Only have like 50k since launch.
 

f1sherman

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Doge is dead for mining - means ppl are exiting DOGE mining right?
So there is less people sharing DOGE blocks and very soon it's profitability is back to normal.

What are you talking about? I really don't care what the profit will be tomorrow, or next week, or next year, if I'm talking about profit TODAY. At current prices and current rewards, it is not worth mining Doge. If you have a different opinion, please share. Simple math will prove you wrong. You can even mine LTC, and exchange them for Doge, and have MORE Doge than mining Doge directly.

I think I have a pretty good grasp of how this works. As of right now, mining LTC will earn you $X per hour per KH, and mining Doge will earn you less than $X per hour per KH.

:hmm:

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

 

IEC

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I hope AMD is behind some of these price increases in order to help the company become more profitable in order to take advantage of the situation. It'd suck if it was only the retailers raking in all the profits.
Unfortunately I don't think AMD really is. Those batches of chips from tmsc were on a set contract. Who knows when AMD would have the chance to set new terms? Could have been December? could be in the future still.

I'm sure AMD is selling set tray like prices per 1000 chips to board manu's.

even if AMD does increase the chip price by 50%, gamers will get hosed and it will seriously hurt Mantle's future adoption. (short term)

Ryan Smith from AT notes two factors for why prices are insane in North America right now:

The culprit, as has been the case since the start, continues to be the strong demand for the cards from cryptocoin miners, who are willing to pay a premium for the cards in anticipation of still being able to turn a profit off of them in the long run. Interestingly this also comes right as Chinese New Year comes to a close. Chinese New Year doesn’t typically affect video card prices for cards that are already released and on shelves, but the lack of production for the roughly 2 week span certainly isn’t doing the 290X market any favors given the strong demand for the cards.

Finally, it’s interesting to note that this phenomena remains almost entirely limited to North America. Our own Ian Cutress quickly checked a couple of UK retailers, Scan.co.uk and Overclockers.co.uk, and found that both of them had 290 series cards in stock at pre-VAT prices that were only marginally above the North American MSRPs. A PowerColor R9 290 OC can be found for £275 (~$460 USD) and an XFX R9 290X for £334 (~$560 USD). The European market of course has its own idiosyncrasies, but ultimately it’s clear that UK pricing has gone largely unaffected by the forces that have driven up North American pricing, making this one of those rare occasions where hardware is more expensive in North America than in Europe, even after taxes.
 

Mark R

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Oct 9, 1999
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I took a look at the anti-keiser source code, because I noticed that the coin diff was retargeting ridiculously slowly.

Found a sneaky bit in the difficulty adjust code, that makes the difficulty adjust interval super long for the first few thousand blocks. Basically, a stealth instamine.
 
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