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thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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What CPM are you getting ?

I can get about 2700cpm (1050/1500) with my 7950s and only about 2500cpm with my 290s, which stays at that level whether I use stock or 1100/1500. I tried double thread as well as -a 0, and -a 2 on the 290s. The share value is ~300shares/h for the 7950s and about 250shares/h for the 290s at those cpm rates at ypool.

I've heard the 290s like Linux a lot more though so maybe that's my issue. Although I did see people in the CLPTS thread saying they were getting ~3000 cpm and more with 290Xs in Windows.

Any ideas? I know the 290s should be faster than what they are currently.
 
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Kenmitch

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 1999
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Figures prices would tank around the same time my TriX gets delivered. Oh well at least I didn't pay mining tax on it thanks to shopblt.

Popped it in my rig last night and let it burn in mining last night for LTC. Didn't do much for optimizing my hash rate other than taking a stab in the dark on settings.

Clocked at 983/1500 @1.031v's gets me 861.2Kh/s avg. shown in cgminer.

Temps after 14hrs of mining. Core 71c vrm1 79c vrm2 53c @ 40% fan speed.

Initial thoughts on TriX:
Looks like crap compared to my XFX DD
Card is smaller than I thought it was going to be.
Cooler works good....But way louder than DD when cranked up
Core is locked which was to be expected this late in the game.
 

wand3r3r

Diamond Member
May 16, 2008
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Figures prices would tank around the same time my TriX gets delivered. Oh well at least I didn't pay mining tax on it thanks to shopblt.

Popped it in my rig last night and let it burn in mining last night for LTC. Didn't do much for optimizing my hash rate other than taking a stab in the dark on settings.

Clocked at 983/1500 @1.031v's gets me 861.2Kh/s avg. shown in cgminer.

Temps after 14hrs of mining. Core 71c vrm1 79c vrm2 53c @ 40% fan speed.

Initial thoughts on TriX:
Looks like crap compared to my XFX DD
Card is smaller than I thought it was going to be.
Cooler works good....But way louder than DD when cranked up
Core is locked which was to be expected this late in the game.

Thanks for the comparison.

Gaming vs. Tri-x vs. DD are peaking my interest.
 

T_Yamamoto

Lifer
Jul 6, 2011
15,007
795
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LOL Wolong thinks I'm the leaker for his IRC chats.

He has my IP addresses apparently.

This guy is delusional.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,134
2,450
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I'm kinda bummed that nobody here seems to have mastered the art of scamcoin yet.

You gotta premine a ton of it when it's easy to mine, launch it, and then dump it once you convince a bunch of suckers that it's the next big thing

Instead, we seem to have a bunch of people here holding the bag once the preminers have dumped it.

Let me know once you got ATOTCoin ready... I want in on the premine for that one
 

Grooveriding

Diamond Member
Dec 25, 2008
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I can get about 2700cpm (1050/1500) with my 7950s and only about 2500cpm with my 290s, which stays at that level whether I use stock or 1100/1500. I tried double thread as well as -a 0, and -a 2 on the 290s. The share value is ~300shares/h for the 7950s and about 250shares/h for the 290s at those cpm rates at ypool.

I've heard the 290s like Linux a lot more though so maybe that's my issue. Although I did see people in the CLPTS thread saying they were getting ~3000 cpm and more with 290Xs in Windows.

Any ideas? I know the 290s should be faster than what they are currently.

I've read the same about the 290s doing better mining under Linux, you could try that. If that is 2500CPM per 7950 you're doing better than I am at 2200CPM.

PTS keeps going up as well which is nice. .03 currently. I have about 12 in my wallet I'd sell right now but my main system is in pieces currently and I can't use the wallet until I put that computer together again.

BTC price also seems to be back on the rise. Price at cavirtex is up about 10% since yesterday and is still climbing.
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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I've read the same about the 290s doing better mining under Linux, you could try that. If that is 2500CPM per 7950 you're doing better than I am at 2200CPM.

PTS keeps going up as well which is nice. .03 currently. I have about 12 in my wallet I'd sell right now but my main system is in pieces currently and I can't use the wallet until I put that computer together again.

BTC price also seems to be back on the rise. Price at cavirtex is up about 10% since yesterday and is still climbing.

Yeah I may have to give nix a try...I just don't like using it because of the lack of overclocking tools. On my 7950s I'm running double thread and -a 1 with 1050/1500 clocks...try that to see if you can get higher.

I also had about 12 PTS but I donated 5 to get some AGS...hopefully lol, I have no idea how you actually get any AGS from anywhere.
 
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slashbinslashbash

Golden Member
Feb 29, 2004
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How do you actually "receive" AGS? Is there a wallet?

Once BTS/etc. is launched, there will be a client (not sure if they're calling it a "wallet" or not) which will allow you to claim them by proving that your BTC and PTS addresses belong to you. At the moment, they are simply being credited to your addresses.

One thing I don't understand is, theoretically you could get less AGS than what your donated PTS is worth even after the snapshot correct? So why would I give up PTS to get AGS?

Theoretically, yes. There will be about 3.3x more PTS than AGS, and there will be 2M BTS split among all PTS holders, and another 2M split among all AGS holders, so 1 AngelShare on 2/28 will be worth roughly 3.3 ProtoShares. The daily "auction" of AngelShares creates a pain in the ass to make your calculations because you don't know what everybody else is going to do at the last minute.... everyday you have to make the determination, "Is it better to hold these PTS, or convert them to AGS?" And even worse, there's the BTC donation method, where you have to ask "Is it better to convert these BTC to PTS, and donate the PTS, or donate the BTC directly?" Or even the reverse, "Is it better to convert my PTS to BTC, and donate the BTC?" As I said, pain in the ass.

And everybody is making the same decision at the same time.... the problem is, the stats aren't real-time (since confirmations can take a while in either the BTC or PTS markets). So while there are sites that are updated showing you the ratios, you never know what's going to slide under the door at the last minute. So an even bigger pain in the ass.

Hopefully, it seems that it should find an equilibrium soon, where you end up the same either way; holding PTS, donating PTS, or donating BTC should all find roughly the same outcomes.

You kind of have to make your own determination as to how you want to allocate things. There is also the thought that ProtoShares could continue to have extrinsic value separate from their association with BitShares.
 

JDG1980

Golden Member
Jul 18, 2013
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Just curious, what is the maximum recommended safe temperature for Pitcairn (7870)? I do some casual mining and recently added a second 7870 to my PC. This one is a Powercolor, which runs hotter by a considerable margin than the other 7870 (HIS w/ blower-style cooler) that I already had. When leaving it running overnight, I have been specifying 85% fan speed and a maximum temperature of 85 degrees. Is that too hot?
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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Theoretically, yes. There will be about 3.3x more PTS than AGS, and there will be 2M BTS split among all PTS holders, and another 2M split among all AGS holders, so 1 AngelShare on 2/28 will be worth roughly 3.3 ProtoShares. The daily "auction" of AngelShares creates a pain in the ass to make your calculations because you don't know what everybody else is going to do at the last minute.... everyday you have to make the determination, "Is it better to hold these PTS, or convert them to AGS?" And even worse, there's the BTC donation method, where you have to ask "Is it better to convert these BTC to PTS, and donate the PTS, or donate the BTC directly?" Or even the reverse, "Is it better to convert my PTS to BTC, and donate the BTC?" As I said, pain in the ass.

And everybody is making the same decision at the same time.... the problem is, the stats aren't real-time (since confirmations can take a while in either the BTC or PTS markets). So while there are sites that are updated showing you the ratios, you never know what's going to slide under the door at the last minute. So an even bigger pain in the ass.

Hopefully, it seems that it should find an equilibrium soon, where you end up the same either way; holding PTS, donating PTS, or donating BTC should all find roughly the same outcomes.

You kind of have to make your own determination as to how you want to allocate things. There is also the thought that ProtoShares could continue to have extrinsic value separate from their association with BitShares.

Thanks for all the info. I think I'm just gonna hold the rest of my PTS and just continue mining.
 

Mark R

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Middlecoin pool operator has finally fixed an "issue" with his pool, which was causing catastrophically low payouts.

From what people have been able to work out, MC have been mining the bad fork of doge and kitteh for the last week.
 

geokilla

Platinum Member
Oct 14, 2006
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LOL Wolong thinks I'm the leaker for his IRC chats.

He has my IP addresses apparently.

This guy is delusional.
Why you talk to Wolong?

Pandacoin devs are still fighting against each other and trying to save face lol.
 
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Binky

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Middlecoin pool operator has finally fixed an "issue" with his pool, which was causing catastrophically low payouts.

From what people have been able to work out, MC have been mining the bad fork of doge and kitteh for the last week.

How is it possible for the operator of a pool of that size to screw up that badly? It's just not a reasonable explanation, unless he/she is a complete idiot.
 

Mark R

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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How is it possible for the operator of a pool of that size to screw up that badly? It's just not a reasonable explanation, unless he/she is a complete idiot.
That's what a lot of people find very strange about MC.

The operator is a very clever and capable guy to have developed the software and algorithms, including the very clever trick of predicting the block reward in variable payout coins, and only mining the "gold" blocks.

However, he is running the system on his own (and has repeatedly refused offers of assistance, e.g. with SQL optimization, despite 3x a week database crises, database I/O backlogs so big that the web front-end borks, etc.), refused to hire any assistant or consultant staff, and continues to have a full time job doing something else.

Over the last couple of months, he's basically lost interest. The database lags and stats are still broken. He no longer offers any kind of support. People have been tweeting him, trying to contact him on bitcointalk forum, and on the unofficial pool forum, telling him that something is critically wrong for a week, with no response.

His latest update is that he's off on vacation for a couple of weeks. I'm guessing that the pool will be on its own for that period.
 

Binky

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Let's see what we have here...profit less than predicted, black box methods, lack of communication, and a "vacation."

I think the Bernie Madoff of altcoins may be sailing off into the sunset.
 

bob32768

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Feb 7, 2013
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Let's see what we have here...profit less than predicted, black box methods, lack of communication, and a "vacation."

I think the Bernie Madoff of altcoins may be sailing off into the sunset.

He was pulling 9-10 BTC per day for a while there. If he can cash out cleanly it's a nice chunk of change.
 

f1sherman

Platinum Member
Apr 5, 2011
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That's what a lot of people find very strange about MC.

The operator is a very clever and capable guy to have developed the software and algorithms, including the very clever trick of predicting the block reward in variable payout coins, and only mining the "gold" blocks.

However, he is running the system on his own (and has repeatedly refused offers of assistance, e.g. with SQL optimization, despite 3x a week database crises, database I/O backlogs so big that the web front-end borks, etc.), refused to hire any assistant or consultant staff, and continues to have a full time job doing something else.

Over the last couple of months, he's basically lost interest. The database lags and stats are still broken. He no longer offers any kind of support. People have been tweeting him, trying to contact him on bitcointalk forum, and on the unofficial pool forum, telling him that something is critically wrong for a week, with no response.

His latest update is that he's off on vacation for a couple of weeks. I'm guessing that the pool will be on its own for that period.


Yes. He's totally my hero :biggrin:
 

Binky

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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He was pulling 9-10 BTC per day for a while there. If he can cash out cleanly it's a nice chunk of change.

You're probably doing the math on the 3% fee, but what if he was skimming a large portion of the hashrate/profit of the miners? He could earn a LOT in a short period of time, and given the black box mature of the pool, people would only know profits are lower than expected, but not why.

This is all conspiracy theory with zero proof, of course.
 

KingFatty

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Dec 29, 2010
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I think all that matters for middlecoin is if the average earning rate is better than competitors like wafflepool etc. He can take a 50% embezzlement fee for all I care - so long as he beats wafflepool, he will get my hashing contributions.

I really hope to see an uptick in the earnings, because they have been really terrible and you see people flocking to competitors. That should hurt him financially, so he has incentive to get competitive again. But wafflepool just has been kicking his llama, and they are transparent and publish their info so you can verify their earning rate no problem.
 

KlokWyze

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Sep 7, 2006
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Trying to consolidate all my random altcoins into BTC. Bought 1 BTC last night through coinbase. Letting it sit "long term" for the year.

Gigabyte just got back to me on my 7950 and mobo RMA. They marked the RMA as having 3 received items (I sent 2). Looks like I'm getting a free motherboard if they don't catch it. Will be unfortunate for some other poor bloke, but don't care. It's on Gigabyte.

Looks like coinye (koi) is trying to make a come back ...... lol ... still have my 1.5 million.

I think all that matters for middlecoin is if the average earning rate is better than competitors like wafflepool etc. He can take a 50% embezzlement fee for all I care - so long as he beats wafflepool, he will get my hashing contributions.

I really hope to see an uptick in the earnings, because they have been really terrible and you see people flocking to competitors. That should hurt him financially, so he has incentive to get competitive again. But wafflepool just has been kicking his llama, and they are transparent and publish their info so you can verify their earning rate no problem.

I have never had luck with those coin switching pools. I always hear how profitable they are, but every time I mine them it just doesn't work because they are "having issues". Every. Single. Time.

Edit:

Is ANY exchange taking AKC yet?!?!!? Good god...
 
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