Cryptocoin Mining?

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AyashiKaibutsu

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So I have cudaminer running on my main rig with a 770gtx at 330 kh/s and bfgminer on my side rig at 450 kh/s from the same dogepool, but my main rig is finding shares at a much faster rate than my side one (I stopped the HW errors on my side one)... Just luck?
 

KlokWyze

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I'm gonna give it a few hours before I buy in. Will hopefully see a nice bounce back up during the week.

Just threw all my BTC into it. We'll see if I can make up for wasting my hashrate on various failures all last week.

So I want to mine a different coin. Would you guys recommend MAX or VTC?

Edit:

Nah... I want to mine PTS. What pool do you guys use?
 
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nwo

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Just threw all my BTC into it. We'll see if I can make up for wasting my hashrate on various failures all last week.

So I want to mine a different coin. Would you guys recommend MAX or VTC?

Edit:

Nah... I want to mine PTS. What pool do you guys use?

I need to do the same... Had rough week full of downtime as well.

I started mining PTS today on my 4770k, but I can't figure out how to run the optimized miner. I joined ypool since someone recommended it on the last page. They have a 5% pool fee which seems extremely high though.
 

Soulkeeper

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Thanks so much!!

I'm a linux noob so please bear with me...is this all one line I have to type in terminal:
"tar -xJvf lsadl-0.1.2-beta.tar.xz && cd lsadl-0.1.2-beta
./autogen.sh && ./configure --with-adl-includes=/dir_with_ADL_headers
make -j4"

OR is it 3 separate lines?

Then after the above I type in "./lsadl [number if multiple cards] &" with "3" since I have 3 cards?

5 commands, 3 lines, but you can make it one line with more && if you wanted

if you just run ./lsadl it'll default to the first adapter, ./lsadl 2 and ./lsadl 3 will access the other ones. Settings persists untill X is killed. So you can exit the program after setting if you wanted or just leave an instance running for each card to monitor.

PM me if you have any problems
 

thilanliyan

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Jun 21, 2005
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I need to do the same... Had rough week full of downtime as well.

I started mining PTS today on my 4770k, but I can't figure out how to run the optimized miner. I joined ypool since someone recommended it on the last page. They have a 5% pool fee which seems extremely high though.

Which miner are you using?
 

nwo

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Which miner are you using?

The only one I got to work was jhprotominer but since I was only getting 150 CPM I stopped....

I tried to run yam-yvg1900-M7m-win64-haswell but I couldn't get it going because of error 1300 even after I followed every single guide online and the ones that come with the miner.
 

thilanliyan

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5 commands, 3 lines, but you can make it one line with more && if you wanted

if you just run ./lsadl it'll default to the first adapter, ./lsadl 2 and ./lsadl 3 will access the other ones. Settings persists untill X is killed. So you can exit the program after setting if you wanted or just leave an instance running for each card to monitor.

PM me if you have any problems

Thanks! I probably will have problems haha so yes I will PM you.

:thumbsup:
 

thilanliyan

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The only one I got to work was jhprotominer but since I was only getting 150 CPM I stopped....

I tried to run yam-yvg1900-M7m-win64-haswell but I couldn't get it going because of error 1300 even after I followed every single guide online and the ones that come with the miner.

I have a 4670k so it should be similar to yours.

Here is what is in my startup .bat file:
yam.exe --config yam-pts.cfg

And in the yam-pts.cfg file I have:
threads = 3
mining-params = pts:av=0&m=512
mine = xpt2h://userass@mining.ypool.net:10034:8080:8081:8082:8083:8084:8085:8086:8087/pts
#proxy = socks4a://127.0.0.1:9150
compact-stats = 1
print-timestamps = 0


I moved the yam.exe file to the same directory as the yam-pts.cfg file. And I took out the lines referencing the other pools since I only have an account at ypool. Only other change I made was to make it 3 threads instead of 4. Change userass to whatever yours is at ypool.

Also, how much ram is in your system? I have 16gb on this comp and I think it makes a difference how much you have because there it is set to use 512mb per thread so mine is using 1.5GB of ram right now.
 
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SunnyD

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http://imgur.com/a/TnZlH#0

I use this calc to determine profitability: http://dwarfpool.com/max/calc

I get about ~10Gh/s on my farm when mining MAX. But I use 9Gh/s on the above calc to show my expected earnings to get a bit more accurate estimate to account for rejects and power consumption. As of right now, it shows $137/day for 9Gh/s.

MAX for me has been great. Lower power consumption and less heat. I beat the top coins listed on coinwarz daily.

You ever get my PM a couple weeks back?

For what amounts to 1.3MH/s worth of of scrypt hashing on the one rig I was sampling off of, I get roughly 600MH/s of Maxcoin hashing. When I posted this question, a day of Maxcoin hashing got me about 2.5 coins. According to your calculator, I should be getting probably ~5x that amount. I'm just not seeing it.

And no, I'm not seeing any PM's from you over the last few weeks.
 

IEC

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I get roughly 420 MH/s per 290 which would normally get 850 kH/s+ for scrypt. So with current difficulty what I could get mining MAX is roughly equivalent in BTC to what I would get mining with wafflepool (0.009-0.11 BTC/MH).

Currently mining MINT as it is better than either of those options with my setup. And bought about 10 PTS today by selling some other alts.
 

wbynum

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Does anyone have a page up that will show hashrate graphs for wafflepool over multiple days for a given address? The only one I could find via google is waffles.wilschrader.com/stats. Graphs don't seem to work most of the time and the duration is only the last 24 hours.
 

frowertr

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For what amounts to 1.3MH/s worth of of scrypt hashing on the one rig I was sampling off of, I get roughly 600MH/s of Maxcoin hashing. When I posted this question, a day of Maxcoin hashing got me about 2.5 coins. According to your calculator, I should be getting probably ~5x that amount. I'm just not seeing it.

And no, I'm not seeing any PM's from you over the last few weeks.

Hmm. Not sure what the issue is then. Perhaps the pool you are using had too low of hash rate? I use max.1gh.com which gives steady payouts on the hour. Just looked at my wallet. From last night at this time to now (~24 hours) I mined 194 MAX which is basically what the calc is telling me I should get for my hashrate.
 

Brekyrself

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I have a 4670k so it should be similar to yours.

Here is what is in my startup .bat file:
yam.exe --config yam-pts.cfg

And in the yam-pts.cfg file I have:
threads = 3
mining-params = pts:av=0&m=512
mine = xpt2h://userass@mining.ypool.net:10034:8080:8081:8082:8083:8084:8085:8086:8087/pts
#proxy = socks4a://127.0.0.1:9150
compact-stats = 1
print-timestamps = 0


I moved the yam.exe file to the same directory as the yam-pts.cfg file. And I took out the lines referencing the other pools since I only have an account at ypool. Only other change I made was to make it 3 threads instead of 4. Change userass to whatever yours is at ypool.

Also, how much ram is in your system? I have 16gb on this comp and I think it makes a difference how much you have because there it is set to use 512mb per thread so mine is using 1.5GB of ram right now.


AV=0 sets it into fine tuning mode. Once complete you can edit the cfg and put the fastest AV in such as AV=4.

M=512 with less threads is usually faster compared with M=256 with more threads. You will have to find the right balance depending on how much RAM you have and if you want to use the computer while its mining. Also read the HugePages file on how to enable this as it gives a nice speed boost.

You can also use 1GH pool by just changing the address line in the cfg file to read:
mine = xpt2h://YOUR-PTS-ADDRESS:x@ptspool.1gh.com:18120:18121:18122:18123/pts

Also with only 2 million PTS and 1% inflation per year it should hold its value quite nicely. Fast AVX CPU's are seeing over 600cpm while a typical AMD 7950 will do 1000cpm. This is a huge improvement helping to decentralize mining.
 
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IEC

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Brekyrself, what do you make of the two different "classes" of investor "shares" - AGS and PTS?
 

thilanliyan

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AV=0 sets it into fine tuning mode. Once complete you can edit the cfg and put the fastest AV in such as AV=4.

M=512 with less threads is usually faster compared with M=256 with more threads. You will have to find the right balance depending on how much RAM you have and if you want to use the computer while its mining. Also read the HugePages file on how to enable this as it gives a nice speed boost.

You can also use 1GH pool by just changing the address line in the cfg file to read:
mine = xpt2h://YOUR-PTS-ADDRESS:x@ptspool.1gh.com:18120:18121:18122:18123/pts

Also with only 2 million PTS and 1% inflation per year it should hold its value quite nicely. Fast AVX CPU's are seeing over 600cpm while a typical AMD 7950 will do 1000cpm. This is a huge improvement helping to decentralize mining.

Thanks for the info.

Also a 7950 at stock can do 2000cpm, and I've read of 7970s/280x cards doing 4000+cpm. My 7950s at 1050/1500 are doing 2800-3000cpm.
 

rtsurfer

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I need some advice from you guys.

I have an Evga 780 Classy on order from Newegg.
Should I cancel the order..?

My initial plan was to mine PTS, but with the Protoshares difficulty climbing I am not sure I can get a profit out of it anymore.

Plus I do not see any profitable coin on the Nvidia side to mine.

Can the the new Bitshares that are supposed to replace Protoshares mined on Nvidia GPU & be comparable to their AMD counterparts..?

Is Bitshares mining even going to be profitable.??

Should I just cancel my order for the classy & wait for Dell to deliver the 290 I order last week in whatever months time they wish to take.?

I haven't had a GPU to do any mining. A couple of times I cancelled the order when I got the 290s a bit close to MSRP because of people crying that mining is not profitable anymore (How I regret that).

I am a college student & I do not think I will be able to do the whole multiple GPUs business, neither do I wanna pay Inflated prices & nor do I want to risk buying a used to GPU to have it die on me.

So,

Choice 1) Get the 780 & hope to make money with Protoshares or its derivatives or get stuck with it nothing profitable can be mined on it.

Choice 2) Wait for Dell to deliver my 290 in How many months they so desire, further delaying my entry into mining world & hope that when I get my 290 there is some coin that is profitable enough for a single GPU.

FYI, the only coins I have currently is 6 Primecoins I mined in early January & whatever 0.02##### Protoshares I have mined on my CPU since yesterday.
 

thilanliyan

Lifer
Jun 21, 2005
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AV=0 sets it into fine tuning mode. Once complete you can edit the cfg and put the fastest AV in such as AV=4.

M=512 with less threads is usually faster compared with M=256 with more threads. You will have to find the right balance depending on how much RAM you have and if you want to use the computer while its mining. Also read the HugePages file on how to enable this as it gives a nice speed boost.

I tried setting the m parameter to 1024 and it didn't seem to do anything. The miner was still showing 1.5gb of ram used just as it was with the parameter at 512. Am I supposed to do anything else?

I don't seem to be getting much over 320cpm at 4.1GHz.

And how much of a difference does hugepages actually make?
 
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slashbinslashbash

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I need to do the same... Had rough week full of downtime as well.

I started mining PTS today on my 4770k, but I can't figure out how to run the optimized miner. I joined ypool since someone recommended it on the last page. They have a 5% pool fee which seems extremely high though.

Apparently they had to do a ton of work to get the pool working. PTS uses the "Momentum" PoW algorithm which is much different from scrypt, SHA256, etc. So the software to run the pool had to be created from scratch. *shrug*

Also keep in mind, the payout scheme might not be PPLNS which is what most scrypt pools use. I could not find anything where ypool specifies the payout scheme. If it is PPS, then high fees are expected because the pool pays you for every submitted share, even if the pool has a run of bad luck and does not find any blocks. Other payment schemes such as PPLNS only pay when a block is found, so if a run of bad luck happens, you will lose your work (any shares older than the LNS counter) but the fees will be lesser because the pool can never run out of coins. So comparing fees between PPLNS and PPS is apples to oranges; with PPLNS, a large portion of your shares can be completely discarded by the pool if the pool gets unlucky. This is of course not counted as a fee, but it is a loss to your income regardless.
 

Brekyrself

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Brekyrself, what do you make of the two different "classes" of investor "shares" - AGS and PTS?

You have to ask yourself what is the best way to equally distribute BitShares amongst the public?

I feel Invictus made a very smart move by offering two ways to acquire BitShares. PTS for those who already have hardware and AGS for those that want to bypass mining and invest directly. AGS not only lets in the non technical crowd however also serves double duty by letting Invictus turn around and re-invest those funds to the community who help develop their software.

If you keep on eye on the BitShares forum you can see how quickly the community has been coming together and tackling their bounties. BitShares has truly been a community project where Bytemaster and team have been completely open and also discuss big changes or hurdles with everyone in hope to come up with proper solutions.

It will be interesting to see what happens with PTS in the next few months. There has been talk about how to reduce the GPU advantage even further. If we see a momentum 2.0 this could be the first time we see a PoW coin with true decentralized mining. On the flip side as a tech savvy community we need to figure out a way to let the non tech savvy crowd invest and use these "coins" without mining.

Thanks for the info.

Also a 7950 at stock can do 2000cpm, and I've read of 7970s/280x cards doing 4000+cpm. My 7950s at 1050/1500 are doing 2800-3000cpm.

What miner and pool are you using? I'll be honest with my GPU's I have only tried 1GH's miner and of course their pool. I've only been seeing 1-1.1k with 7950's @ 1100/1500.
 

IEC

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Mint is taking off... glad I bought 1,000,000 for cheap before the most recent run up!
 

Brekyrself

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I tried setting the m parameter to 1024 and it didn't seem to do anything. The miner was still showing 1.5gb of ram used just as it was with the parameter at 512. Am I supposed to do anything else?

I don't seem to be getting much over 320cpm at 4.1GHz.

And how much of a difference does hugepages actually make?

1024 setting works here, are you using the latest "M" version of the miner? Huge pages has made a significant increase for me ~75cpm. Also your CPU has AVX instruction set, make sure you are using the right version and AV setting.
 
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