Crysis 2 DX 11 confirmed.

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So, first people bitch that Crysis 2 didn't ship with DX11 support, and now that it's confirmed to be added to the game, people continue to bitch. Okay.

I predict that when the DX11 patch is released, and Crysis 2 still does not become some ultimate benchmark tool a la Crysis 1, people will continue to complain about how the game was designed for consoles and therefore sucks. Yeesh.

I think it's more of a "re-bitch" as the underlying point is that the game should have shipped with DX11 from the start.

Say what you want about whoever, but the fact is they downgraded the graphics and went for a COD clone. While that's a definite recipe for money making, it doesn't make for a great gaming experience.
 

Lonbjerg

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So, first people bitch that Crysis 2 didn't ship with DX11 support, and now that it's confirmed to be added to the game, people continue to bitch. Okay.

I predict that when the DX11 patch is released, and Crysis 2 still does not become some ultimate benchmark tool a la Crysis 1, people will continue to complain about how the game was designed for consoles and therefore sucks. Yeesh.

No matter how you slice and dice it, DX11 won't make Console 2 into a PC-orientated game.

Gone are the sandbox and replaced is a shooter-on-rails.

It's a fact that you cannot make go away.

CryTek lied...it's as simple as that.
 

Veliko

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No matter how you slice and dice it, DX11 won't make Console 2 into a PC-orientated game.

Gone are the sandbox and replaced is a shooter-on-rails.

It's a fact that you cannot make go away.

CryTek lied...it's as simple as that.

Lied about what? They said from the very start that it wasn't going to be the graphics fest that Crysis 1 was.

And really calling Crysis 1 a sandbox game and saying Crysis 2 is a CoD clone is ridiculous.
 

Lonbjerg

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Lied about what? They said from the very start that it wasn't going to be the graphics fest that Crysis 1 was.

And really calling Crysis 1 a sandbox game and saying Crysis 2 is a CoD clone is ridiculous.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/crytek_pc_crysis_2_superior_from_every_angle.html

They lied about it not being a crappy console port.

It's not for the fun of it PC gamers call it "Console 2".

They took the best parts of FarCry and Crysis and canned them and instead took the worst part of consoles and thought nobody would notice...and then even dared to make it sound like PC gamers should look forward to it :thumbsdown:
 

Aristotelian

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So your take on what defines "computer game" is normative? I got Crysis 2 on Steam, enjoyed it. I was going to replay it on the hardest difficulty but I'll wait for the patch and enjoy even more eye candy. At the end of the day, I have fun playing this game. I don't know what you think a gaming company owes to you re: downgraded graphics, and did you even play it? At 2560x1440/extreme, overclocked 580s in SLI and an overclocked 2600K break a sweat. And the game looks quite stunning in parts. You want them to provide graphics settings that 0.01% of PC owners can take advantage of, just to meet your definition of "computer game"? Get serious.
 

Lonbjerg

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So your take on what defines "computer game" is normative? I got Crysis 2 on Steam, enjoyed it. I was going to replay it on the hardest difficulty but I'll wait for the patch and enjoy even more eye candy. At the end of the day, I have fun playing this game. I don't know what you think a gaming company owes to you re: downgraded graphics, and did you even play it? At 2560x1440/extreme, overclocked 580s in SLI and an overclocked 2600K break a sweat. And the game looks quite stunning in parts. You want them to provide graphics settings that 0.01% of PC owners can take advantage of, just to meet your definition of "computer game"? Get serious.

a) The game dropped "the sandbox"...for shooter-on-rails :thumbsdown:
b) The I.Q. quality suffered..due to the crapboxes limitied memory :thumbsdown:
c) Even in-game physics got butchered due to crapboxes low performance :thumbsdown:

I wanted a game like "Crysis" that pushed hardware...they way it should be.
That is why PC games have something called "settings"...and not just 3-4 "settings"
Take that consoller-mentality back to the crapbox..."mediocre" never pushed anything forward...except crapboxes.
 

TechBoyJK

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So your take on what defines "computer game" is normative? I got Crysis 2 on Steam, enjoyed it. I was going to replay it on the hardest difficulty but I'll wait for the patch and enjoy even more eye candy. At the end of the day, I have fun playing this game. I don't know what you think a gaming company owes to you re: downgraded graphics, and did you even play it? At 2560x1440/extreme, overclocked 580s in SLI and an overclocked 2600K break a sweat. And the game looks quite stunning in parts. You want them to provide graphics settings that 0.01% of PC owners can take advantage of, just to meet your definition of "computer game"? Get serious.

This.

Crytek specifically targeted a middle ground here. And I think they did it well. It's those on the fringes that are upset.

Any of my friends who play console only, and like COD, are in love with Crysis 2. They are getting the same "where the fvck did this come from?" surprise that us PC gamers got when Far Cry first came out.

I was expecting to run this game on low settings, and I have a 4870 1GB with a quad core Phenom II and SSD. I run everything leaning towards max settings, and I'm still pulling 30-40 frames per second.
 

TechBoyJK

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a) The game dropped "the sandbox"...for shooter-on-rails :thumbsdown:
b) The I.Q. quality suffered..due to the crapboxes limitied memory :thumbsdown:
c) Even in-game physics got butchered due to crapboxes low performance :thumbsdown:

I wanted a game like "Crysis" that pushed hardware...they way it should be.
That is why PC games have something called "settings"...and not just 3-4 "settings"
Take that consoller-mentality back to the crapbox..."mediocre" never pushed anything forward...except crapboxes.

When Crytek first started developing Crysis 2, they specifically said, almost screaming it, that C2 was not being developed in a way to specifically push hardware. Their focus was on the game.
 

Lonbjerg

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When Crytek first started developing Crysis 2, they specifically said, almost screaming it, that C2 was not being developed in a way to specifically push hardware. Their focus was on the game.

You missed a)?

Sandbox > shooter-on-rails for gameplay.

Down downgraded every single aspect of crysis....in order to cater to the lowest common denominator..."Idiocracy" in action.
 

Veliko

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http://www.videogamer.com/news/crytek_pc_crysis_2_superior_from_every_angle.html

They lied about it not being a crappy console port.

It's not for the fun of it PC gamers call it "Console 2".

They took the best parts of FarCry and Crysis and canned them and instead took the worst part of consoles and thought nobody would notice...and then even dared to make it sound like PC gamers should look forward to it :thumbsdown:

He is qouted as saying "superior from every angle" so again, what exactly did they lie about? The PC version is superior from every angle.

What best bits from Far Cry and Crysis are missing from Crysis 2? Both those first two games are pretty average yet Crysis 2 is a better game. None of the people who complain about Crytek telling lies can actually expand on what they actually lied about - right from the very start they said it wasn't going to be the big graphical leap that the original was.
 

Lonbjerg

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He is qouted as saying "superior from every angle" so again, what exactly did they lie about? The PC version is superior from every angle.

What best bits from Far Cry and Crysis are missing from Crysis 2? Both those first two games are pretty average yet Crysis 2 is a better game. None of the people who complain about Crytek telling lies can actually expand on what they actually lied about - right from the very start they said it wasn't going to be the big graphical leap that the original was.


It has the same dumbed down "shooter-on-rails" syndorme, the same lame physics...hell even the textures are just as crappy as on the crapboxes.

That is not "superior from every angle"...
 

Veliko

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You missed a)?

Sandbox > shooter-on-rails for gameplay.

Down downgraded every single aspect of crysis....in order to cater to the lowest common denominator..."Idiocracy" in action.

There are far too many people re-writing history here and making the original Crysis out to be something that it wasn't. It's not some cerebral masterpiece and is no more intelligent or thought-provoking than Crysis 2 is.

Crysis is 'just' a shooter in the same way that Crysis 2 is. Making the game environments bigger doesn't change that.
 

Veliko

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It has the same dumbed down "shooter-on-rails" syndorme, the same lame physics...hell even the textures are just as crappy as on the crapboxes.

That is not "superior from every angle"...

The PC version has better controls and better graphics. How is that not superior from every angle?
 

wuliheron

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When Crytek first started developing Crysis 2, they specifically said, almost screaming it, that C2 was not being developed in a way to specifically push hardware. Their focus was on the game.


A PC game doesn't have to push hardware to the limits to be great, but they didn't even provide any options. No modding tools, no dx 11, no graphics settings, no developers console, no nothing. It's a cookie cutter console game with no PC options that doesn't push hardware and, yet, they bragged nonstop wouldn't disappoint PC gamers. Shame on them.
 
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Aristotelian

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Yeah, that's one of the few real innovations of this game, but how many people have that option?

And given that at max settings, people with 580s in SLI (overclocked) and a 2600K (overclocked), experience moderate slowdowns in parts of the game as it is now:

"How many people have the option to play at higher settings than those?" It's what I've said in a number of posts, in a number of threads. I have no idea why so many forum users are complaining that Crysis 2 didn't have more demanding graphics considering the game can be demanding on higher end rigs if you push the settings enough as it is.
 

Lonbjerg

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And given that at max settings, people with 580s in SLI (overclocked) and a 2600K (overclocked), experience moderate slowdowns in parts of the game as it is now:

"How many people have the option to play at higher settings than those?" It's what I've said in a number of posts, in a number of threads. I have no idea why so many forum users are complaining that Crysis 2 didn't have more demanding graphics considering the game can be demanding on higher end rigs if you push the settings enough as it is.


It's not rocket science *sigh*

Crysis 2 is not a step forward, it a step backwards on the PC.

It cannot be simplified more.

Not all us like stagantion...or a crappy console port on rails with lower I.Q./Features that it's predessecor.

It's a step down in gameplay.
It's a step down in I.Q.

It could very well be that it's impressive to the console people...but that only proves how much the other console games suck.

For a PC gamer however...the standards are higher.

Console 2 is a slap in the face of PC gamers....a pure insult.
 

wuliheron

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And given that at max settings, people with 580s in SLI (overclocked) and a 2600K (overclocked), experience moderate slowdowns in parts of the game as it is now:

"How many people have the option to play at higher settings than those?" It's what I've said in a number of posts, in a number of threads. I have no idea why so many forum users are complaining that Crysis 2 didn't have more demanding graphics considering the game can be demanding on higher end rigs if you push the settings enough as it is.

What crock of shit. Two 580s and a 2600k overclocked will eat this game for breakfast. Anyone who implies otherwise is either on serious drugs or needs to be on serious drugs.
 

Veliko

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What crock of shit. Two 580s and a 2600k overclocked will eat this game for breakfast. Anyone who implies otherwise is either on serious drugs or needs to be on serious drugs.

There has been at least two people with that setup say that it slows down in places.
 

gorcorps

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And given that at max settings, people with 580s in SLI (overclocked) and a 2600K (overclocked), experience moderate slowdowns in parts of the game as it is now:

"How many people have the option to play at higher settings than those?" It's what I've said in a number of posts, in a number of threads. I have no idea why so many forum users are complaining that Crysis 2 didn't have more demanding graphics considering the game can be demanding on higher end rigs if you push the settings enough as it is.

Something must be horribly wrong with their system then, because I have an i5-2500k and a single GTX570. It plays constant 60fps w/ vsync and everything maxed. Even in 3D it rarely drops below 50. Unless they've built an array of 4 monitors chained together something is wrong or they're full of shit.
 

Veliko

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It's not rocket science *sigh*

Crysis 2 is not a step forward, it a step backwards on the PC.

It cannot be simplified more.

Not all us like stagantion...or a crappy console port on rails with lower I.Q./Features that it's predessecor.

It's a step down in gameplay.
It's a step down in I.Q.

It could very well be that it's impressive to the console people...but that only proves how much the other console games suck.

For a PC gamer however...the standards are higher.

Console 2 is a slap in the face of PC gamers....a pure insult.

You realise that Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons was a negative stereotype, right? You aren't supposed to try and be like him.


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And given that at max settings, people with 580s in SLI (overclocked) and a 2600K (overclocked), experience moderate slowdowns in parts of the game as it is now:

"How many people have the option to play at higher settings than those?" It's what I've said in a number of posts, in a number of threads. I have no idea why so many forum users are complaining that Crysis 2 didn't have more demanding graphics considering the game can be demanding on higher end rigs if you push the settings enough as it is.

Why would anyone run crysis 2 on max settings? I've seen screenshots where when you turn up AA the whole picture is a blurry mess. I've never even heard of a game that gets worse looking as you turn up settings.
 
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