Crysis 2 DX 11 confirmed.

[Anteaus]

I found Far Cry and Crysis 1 to be generic and bland but Crysis 2 is quite good so far. Not outstanding but quite good. Ultimately there simply isn't enough of a difference between Crysis 1 and Crysis 2 to justify the lurch from the "best game evar" praise for the first game and the "worst game evar" bile that people like you are spouting out.

I wouldn't have worded it quite like this, but your right. This isn't a Crysis issue. Lately there is this "if your not first, your last" mentality slamming PC games by PC gamers. No one can deny that game design is influenced by the market. Lately, there has been more console influence on PC games than I'd like, but that in and of itself does not create a bad game.

If you judge Crysis 2 on it's own merits and stop comparing it other games, it stands on it's own quite well. Even "consolized", it is much better than the average PC FPS. Obviously comparing it to Crysis might leave room for wanting, but then again Crysis has since become a cult classic in regards to technical prowness and overall game design. It is difficult to compete with a game with that much widespread success.

Dragon Age 2 is a similar story. By no means is it the game that DA:O is, especially from the standpoint of story telling, but it's still a good game. If DA:O had not existed, people would be going apesh*t over the production values. But alas, instead we have people who are universally panning it as if it was a steaming turd. The "We hate Dragon Age 2 because it's not Dragon Age :Origins" is exhausting, and I see the exact same thing here with Crysis.

If you don't like Crysis 2, thats fine. You are all allowed your opinions, but please don't use misdirect them by choosing arbitrary reasons such as "consolizing" because it's silly. Even if Crysis 2 had been PC only and had DX11 graphics that pushed the highest level of GPUs at launch, there is no evidence that it would be any better as a package. Story is immune from "consolizing", so you can't say that it would have been better, nor can you say the environments would be different.

I guess it's not enough to just play games these days.

 

[Lonbjerg]

The best you can do is post some YouTube videos? Really?

It's the fraking gameplay...madre mia!

Is fallacies the best you can do?

/ignore...

 

[Aristotelian]

I have played it for about 40 mins at a friend and then decided that Crytek lied, the game was a downgrade on all points and that I wasn't going to buy it...next fallacy?

In all seriousness could you explain two things to me?

1. In what way did Crytek lie? They claimed from the start that this game would be less demanding (graphically) than Crysis 1.

2. What do you mean by 'shooter on rails'? Confined to certain paths and all that?

 

[Lobo56]

Someone posts a random photo of a piece of floor in Crysis 2 and that proves the graphics are awful and crytek lied? Take ANY game that has ever existed and go around looking at the floor and I bet you can find some sub par textures in all of them.

Crytek said from the start that Crysis 2 would be set in new York. Last time I checked a city street is much more confining than a jungle by it's very nature. What exactly did you expect out of Crysis 2 as to the point of being so bitterly disappointed upon it's release?

Anyway, someone said it earlier. This thread is fucked, what is the point in even discussing it further? "Haters gonna hate" is a phrase that springs to mind.

 

[Maximilian]

Crytek said from the start that Crysis 2 would be set in new York. Last time I checked a city street is much more confining than a jungle by it's very nature. What exactly did you expect out of Crysis 2 as to the point of being so bitterly disappointed upon it's release?

Grand theft crysis would've been nice.

 

[HeXen]

You guys are being crybabies. its just a game. Don't like then don't play it, put with the rest of your dust collection of games that didn't meet fantasy criteria.

In 2007 it was crying about how buggy Crysis was, didn't look as good ingame as it did in pics, fps is horrible, jungle enviro is boring, horrible AI...wah,wah. now it runs better, but looks worse, don't like the enviro, too linear...grow up!

The problem is not the games, its some of the gamers who got spoiled by their own fantasies and forgot how to enjoy games like they once did. Some of whom are just getting older with nostalgia of a time when you could enjoy a title like this....its a b*** eh? but if your finding it harder to enjoy some games, realize its you that is changing and likely only get worse till you stop playing very often like most old people do with nothing but nostalgic filled memories. So try making some new ones and stop thinking about what you hate so much.

 

[wuliheron]

You guys are being crybabies. its just a game. Don't like then don't play it, put with the rest of your dust collection of games that didn't meet fantasy criteria.

It isn't just a game, its a STUPID game. Which is more STUPID, criticizing a STUPID game or criticizing people criticizing a STUPID game?

 

[greenhawk]

I haven't played it but I just saw this screencap posted somewhere else, does it look like this? because it is pretty pathetic.

It does look like that in places. IIRC I would say that is the polluted water in one of the subway maps. Can not be more accurate as I did not pay that much attention on the way through.

As to why it looks crap, I suspect it is because the "water" is just a partially transparent texture and not anything fancy as expected from current gen water graphics.

 

[Aristotelian]

It isn't just a game, its a STUPID game. Which is more STUPID, criticizing a STUPID game or criticizing people criticizing a STUPID game?

The former, because the latter is incorrectly constructed. What he is doing is criticizing STUPID people who are criticizing a game.The former is STUPID and the latter is a public good, sort of like my responses to your posts in this thread, and why you've needed to put me on ignore to avoid facing this awful truth.

 

[nemesismk2]

Crytek releasing a Crysis 2 DX 11 Patch will be good for the people who wanted it. Will have to wait to see what the performance hit will be at extreme with DX 11.

 

[SaDiZTiKStyLeZ]

It does look like that in places. IIRC I would say that is the polluted water in one of the subway maps. Can not be more accurate as I did not pay that much attention on the way through.

As to why it looks crap, I suspect it is because the "water" is just a partially transparent texture and not anything fancy as expected from current gen water graphics.

Shit. That's still bad even compared to older games.

 

[Aristotelian]

Shit. That's still bad even compared to older games.

You're right. I took the time yesterday (instead of actually playing the game as I normally do), to run around and focus on items on the ground. At times they are 'interactive', but they are nowhere near as interactive as the ground items in Batman: AA with Physx on High (nor do they look as good).

In a sense, I begin to understand what people mean about the graphics. But in another, I play FPS as a twitch-action game, and perhaps I've typically put insufficient emphasis on the graphics in Crysis, Quake 3, whatever. Having said that, many of the scenes in Crysis 2 are gorgeous. The lighting isn't as good (imo) as Crysis 1, but whenever you look at a video that proves this (making it noticeable for the viewer), that person isn't playing an FPS. That person is playing some kind of first person rpg, where the he simply wants to walk around and watch the sun set, watch the wind push the leaves on trees, watch the waves splash on rocks.

For me, Crysis 2 was far too fast paced to appreciate any of the above. I do look forward to the DX11 patch, but will it make the graphics equivalent to Crysis 1? Better than Crysis 1? Who knows. I'm not willing to drop significant fps just so that litter on the ground in destroyed parts of New York look more realistic, but that's a purely subjective claim.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Crysis 2 is consolized all to hell, the step backwards in graphics fidelity, the step backwards in linearity, the god awful mouse acceleration, the tiny FOV that gives me a headache, the lack of graphics options.

Crysis 2 is inferior to Crysis in about every way that's important to me.

 

[Raider1284]

Originally Posted by Lobo56 View Post
I did read the thread. You claimed Crysis 2 was a shooter on rails and that the sandbox has been taken away from you.

It is.
You have exits and a narrow path leading you them.
Going on the right or the left side of the trail isn't a "sandbox".

This is most certainly NOT the definition of an "on-rails" shooter... "on-rails" means that you have no control, at all, over the character, other then aiming. The character is moved automatically by the computer. Examples of an on-rails shooter would be the Area 51 arcade games, if you have ever seen those.

You can certainly call crysis 2 a "linear" game, well at least much more linear then crysis 1, but you cannot call it an on-rails shooter at all.

 

[HeXen]

It isn't just a game, its a STUPID game. Which is more STUPID, criticizing a STUPID game or criticizing people criticizing a STUPID game?

the problem is that is not just this game. PC game critisism is constant with most every release. they critisize consoles, the publishers, the developers..even the freaking API that is direct X.
Those people need to stop gaming. period.

 

[BladeVenom]

I haven't played it but I just saw this screencap posted somewhere else, does it look like this? because it is pretty pathetic.

http://i.imgur.com/or99J.jpg

Crysis 2, bringing us 90's graphics today.

 

[digitaldurandal]

the problem is that is not just this game. PC game critisism is constant with most every release. they critisize consoles, the publishers, the developers..even the freaking API that is direct X.
Those people need to stop gaming. period.

So you want a world without criticism? Or only your approved level of criticism? Or only criticism about things that you deem worthy of criticism?

I deem your criticism of criticism unnecessary and I think that you should stop posting. period.

 

[digitaldurandal]

The best you can do is post some YouTube videos? Really?

He posted infinite more proof FOR his argument than you did against it.

 

[wuliheron]

the problem is that is not just this game. PC game critisism is constant with most every release. they critisize consoles, the publishers, the developers..even the freaking API that is direct X.
Those people need to stop gaming. period.

A good PC gaming rig tends to cost a lot of time and money on the part of the owners. We're snobs about our games and computers and criticize every little flaw just like a wine snob or whatever and some of us have been doing this for 30 years. Console gamers and others can complain we're too critical, but that's just like someone who drinks cheap beer going out of their way to criticize wine snobs. Get a life! If you don't like the culture then don't hang out with the people.

 

[Skurge]

A good PC gaming rig tends to cost a lot of time and money on the part of the owners. We're snobs about our games and computers and criticize every little flaw just like a wine snob or whatever and some of us have been doing this for 30 years. Console gamers and others can complain we're too critical, but that's just like someone who drinks cheap beer going out of their way to criticize wine snobs. Get a life! If you don't like the culture then don't hang out with the people.

Exactly!

Nothing wrong with demanding the best when you pay for the best.

 

[EvilComputer92]

This game is pretty much suffering the same fate as Deus Ex Invisible War and Unreal 2. Both games were sequels to revolutionary titles. They weren't bad games exactly. However, they both suffered from consolization to the Xbox.

The problem is that when you release the first game in the series that sets the bar so high, when the second game fails to come anywhere near that level it feels like a total letdown.

It's funny that this exact same thing occurred with Deus Ex Invisible War. Everyone trashed the game because it was being compared to Deus Ex. Even though in comparison to other games it was still so much better.

Crysis 2 should not have been called Crysis 2. They should have started a totally different franchise, especially when console gamers just think that Crysis is that game on the PC that no one can run. It has almost no relation to the previous game.

As a standalone game, Crysis 2 is a solid, if generic, shooter. When compared with all the other terrible stuff we have releasing these days, it's a great title. When placed in the shadow of it's predecessor, it's a mediocre, passable one.

 

[Aristotelian]

Exactly!

Nothing wrong with demanding the best when you pay for the best.

The issue is that we are disagreeing about what 'the best' is, by huge degrees.

As a 'wine snob' myself, I'm appalled to see such a terrible analogy (but what else would I expect at this stage) from wuliheron.

This isn't 'snobs' versus 'people without taste' (as in his example).

This is "Games are meant to be fun to play and good looking, usable on today's hardware" versus "Crytek let us down and sold out because they didn't produce another useful benchmark. Our systems can handle the game, and in parts it looks worse than Crysis 1, and the game doesn't revolutionize the genre, therefore it SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS AND IT'S A STUPID GAME AND ANYONE WHO BUYS IT IS STUPID ESPECIALLY YOU, YOU POOPY PANTS STUPID FACE!"

The above was a characterization (quite accurate) of the vast number of people complaining about Crysis 2. Ironically, wuliheron claims that people who disagree with this criticism need to "get a life", but I suppose that running an e-crusade to continually provide banal criticisms (look at the pizza, dude!) of a video game is an example of his following what he preaches. Not.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

A good PC gaming rig tends to cost a lot of time and money on the part of the owners. We're snobs about our games and computers and criticize every little flaw just like a wine snob or whatever and some of us have been doing this for 30 years. Console gamers and others can complain we're too critical, but that's just like someone who drinks cheap beer going out of their way to criticize wine snobs. Get a life! If you don't like the culture then don't hang out with the people.

Speak for yourself. I'm not a snob, I just like games.

 

[Veliko]

A good PC gaming rig tends to cost a lot of time and money on the part of the owners. We're snobs about our games and computers and criticize every little flaw just like a wine snob or whatever and some of us have been doing this for 30 years. Console gamers and others can complain we're too critical, but that's just like someone who drinks cheap beer going out of their way to criticize wine snobs. Get a life! If you don't like the culture then don't hang out with the people.

You have already stated that you are more interested in a game's graphics than how it plays, which is the complete opposite stance of what a snob would take.

 

[Veliko]

Crysis 2 should not have been called Crysis 2. They should have started a totally different franchise, especially when console gamers just think that Crysis is that game on the PC that no one can run. It has almost no relation to the previous game.

Other than the change from the jungle to a city the game is largely the same. There simply isn't that much difference between the two games that merits such extreme reactions.

As a standalone game, Crysis 2 is a solid, if generic, shooter. When compared with all the other terrible stuff we have releasing these days, it's a great title. When placed in the shadow of it's predecessor, it's a mediocre, passable one.

Other than it's graphics Crysis 1 was mediocre. Crysis 2 is actually a better game.