Crysis 2 DX 11 confirmed.

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Veliko

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He posted infinite more proof FOR his argument than you did against it.

He did not. He skipped most of what I said and posted nothing but some YouTube videos. He claimed that within the first 40 minutes of playing Crysis 1 he was thinking "loving this sandbox" but the fact remains that you simply don't experience that much of a sandbox that early on in the game.
 

wuliheron

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You have already stated that you are more interested in a game's graphics than how it plays, which is the complete opposite stance of what a snob would take.


I'm snobbish about graphics. Some might prefer dry wine or whatever, I prefer good graphics that beat the shit out of consoles.
 

wuliheron

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The issue is that we are disagreeing about what 'the best' is, by huge degrees.

As a 'wine snob' myself, I'm appalled to see such a terrible analogy (but what else would I expect at this stage) from wuliheron.

This isn't 'snobs' versus 'people without taste' (as in his example).

This is "Games are meant to be fun to play and good looking, usable on today's hardware" versus "Crytek let us down and sold out because they didn't produce another useful benchmark. Our systems can handle the game, and in parts it looks worse than Crysis 1, and the game doesn't revolutionize the genre, therefore it SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS AND IT'S A STUPID GAME AND ANYONE WHO BUYS IT IS STUPID ESPECIALLY YOU, YOU POOPY PANTS STUPID FACE!"

The above was a characterization (quite accurate) of the vast number of people complaining about Crysis 2. Ironically, wuliheron claims that people who disagree with this criticism need to "get a life", but I suppose that running an e-crusade to continually provide banal criticisms (look at the pizza, dude!) of a video game is an example of his following what he preaches. Not.


What a load of childish crap. Did your mother not breast feed you?

I have yet to see anyone here criticize Crysis 2 for not bringing their computer to its knees. I certainly haven't complained about that and any insinuation that I have is nothing short of a bald faced lie by someone who can't think of any better criticism to make and just feels compelled to make a criticism anyway.
 

Veliko

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I'm snobbish about graphics. Some might prefer dry wine or whatever, I prefer good graphics that beat the shit out of consoles.

With the wine analogy, you are like someone who is more concerned with what the label looks like than the contents of the bottle.
 

Lobo56

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I love how all the criticism of Crysis 2 essentially boils down to PC fanboy bashing of consoles.

I LOVE pc gaming, have just ordered a new $2000+ rig. But that doesn't mean consoles suck and anyone who plays games on them is an idiot. I love my 360 and PC equally.

Also FYI, being a 'snob' is not something to aspire to.

And add me to the 'Crysis 1 was medicore' crowd. Seriously, did you guys actually play it or spend the whole time benchmarking your system with it? I found it suffered badly from boring-itus.
 

wuliheron

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I love how all the criticism of Crysis 2 essentially boils down to PC fanboy bashing of consoles.

I LOVE pc gaming, have just ordered a new $2000+ rig. But that doesn't mean consoles suck and anyone who plays games on them is an idiot. I love my 360 and PC equally.

Also FYI, being a 'snob' is not something to aspire to.

And add me to the 'Crysis 1 was medicore' crowd. Seriously, did you guys actually play it or spend the whole time benchmarking your system with it? I found it suffered badly from boring-itus.


If you love your 360 just as much as your PC then I suggest you sell your PC. Obviously you don't need it.

Being a snob may not be anything to aspire to, but then neither is being a critic of snobs. You also don't have to be a snob in order to appreciate really great video game graphics and appreciate those who critique them thoroughly. All you have to do is have a desire for really great graphics.
 

Lobo56

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If you love your 360 just as much as your PC then I suggest you sell your PC. Obviously you don't need it.


Of course. It's just not possible for someone to game on multiple platforms right?

PC Gaming for me isn't about just having better graphics than consoles. Some genre's of games I prefer to play on PC, some I prefer to play on console, and some you don't have a choice.

Hence, I broaden my options by having both PC and console.

You fail to comprehend that not all PC gamers are elitist graphic whores who look down on console gamers who buy 'cheap' hardware.
 

Aristotelian

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What a load of childish crap. Did your mother not breast feed you?

I have yet to see anyone here criticize Crysis 2 for not bringing their computer to its knees. I certainly haven't complained about that and any insinuation that I have is nothing short of a bald faced lie by someone who can't think of any better criticism to make and just feels compelled to make a criticism anyway.

A) The graphics are not good enough, but
B) The game is taxing at extreme details at certain resolutions, so
C) If the graphics were more demanding (i.e., better), then
D) The game would be more difficult to run.

Yet:

i) Even powerhouse systems can struggle with Crysis 2 in parts, (from B), and
ii) They would struggle even more if the graphics were that much better (from D),

Therefore, via simple implication, the very people who want the graphics to be better are complaining that this game isn't pushing the graphics envelope further (a la Crysis 1, which would bring more systems to their knees for years). The claims go hand in hand.

Finally took me off ignore, only to get schooled once more. Your post attempts to attack me personally (again), yet only illustrates an absolute failure in comprehension on your part (again), though I'm sure that this isn't news to you because you're attention whoring (again).

Your wine analogy was terrible, as are the majority of your posts in this thread. Thanks so much for returning.
 

wuliheron

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Of course. It's just not possible for someone to game on multiple platforms right?

PC Gaming for me isn't about just having better graphics than consoles. Some genre's of games I prefer to play on PC, some I prefer to play on console, and some you don't have a choice.

Hence, I broaden my options by having both PC and console.

You fail to comprehend that not all PC gamers are elitist graphic whores who look down on console gamers who buy 'cheap' hardware.


If graphics don't mean much to you, then you don't need a serious PC for gaming.
 

Aristotelian

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If graphics don't mean much to you, then you don't need a serious PC for gaming.

A prime example of your idiocy. His claim was that PC gaming is not SOLELY about better graphics, to him.

You change that to "they don't mean much". Your understanding of what he wrote is clearly mistaken, and you use it to straw man his post with some moronic one liner. Are you having fun, attention whore?
 

Lobo56

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If graphics don't mean much to you, then you don't need a serious PC for gaming.


Graphics mean alot to me hence I want a serious computer to exploit the good graphics when I can.

HOWEVER I deem the graphics to be a MINIOR part of what makes a game actually worth playing. A game can have the best graphics ever seen but have crap gameplay, and thus is and always will be a crap game.

You really are sounding more and more like someone who just sees games as a way to benchmark/brag about your system. Try actually PLAYING a few and you might accidently have fun while you're at it.
 

wuliheron

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A) The graphics are not good enough, but
B) The game is taxing at extreme details at certain resolutions, so
C) If the graphics were more demanding (i.e., better), then
D) The game would be more difficult to run.

Yet:

i) Even powerhouse systems can struggle with Crysis 2 in parts, (from B), and
ii) They would struggle even more if the graphics were that much better (from D),

Therefore, via simple implication, the very people who want the graphics to be better are complaining that this game isn't pushing the graphics envelope further (a la Crysis 1, which would bring more systems to their knees for years). The claims go hand in hand.

Finally took me off ignore, only to get schooled once more. Your post attempts to attack me personally (again), yet only illustrates an absolute failure in comprehension on your part (again), though I'm sure that this isn't news to you because you're attention whoring (again).

Your wine analogy was terrible, as are the majority of your posts in this thread. Thanks so much for returning.


Your mama really didn't breast feed you did she. All you do is lie and exaggerate and make insinuations. I suspect the real Aristotle would slap you for all your straw man arguments too.

Anyone who claims Crysis 2 will challenge a serious PC is flat out lying or doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. Don't take my word for it, just read the benchmarks. Crysis 2 is even less demanding then the original which is now 4 years old.
 

Lobo56

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Your mama really didn't breast feed you did she. All you do is lie and exaggerate and make insinuations. I suspect the real Aristotle would slap you for all your straw man arguments too.

Anyone who claims Crysis 2 will challenge a serious PC is flat out lying or doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about. Don't take my word for it, just read the benchmarks. Crysis 2 is even less demanding then the original which is now 4 years old.



SO WHAT?!!!

Crysis 1 ran like a dog on computers of its day. That is NOT a good thing ffs! If I have some bitchin PC and buy a game today I expect to be able to play it on high settings TODAY not 4 years from now ffs.

Crysis 2 plays well NOW and you bitch that it isn't taxing enough? You fail at games.
 

wuliheron

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Graphics mean alot to me hence I want a serious computer to exploit the good graphics when I can.

HOWEVER I deem the graphics to be a MINIOR part of what makes a game actually worth playing. A game can have the best graphics ever seen but have crap gameplay, and thus is and always will be a crap game.

You really are sounding more and more like someone who just sees games as a way to benchmark/brag about your system. Try actually PLAYING a few and you might accidently have fun while you're at it.


Nope. I love a really great game. My favorite is Half Life 2 which I like as much for the story and gameplay as anything else.

However, Crysis has always been about the graphics. Other then great graphics it's never had much to offer. That's not just my opinion, but the opinion of many professional reviewers as well. The game play, story, etc. are OK, but nothing to write home about. If they can't continue to provide even better graphics or at least as good as the original I want nothing to do with the game.
 

wuliheron

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SO WHAT?!!!

Crysis 1 ran like a dog on computers of its day. That is NOT a good thing ffs! If I have some bitchin PC and buy a game today I expect to be able to play it on high settings TODAY not 4 years from now ffs.

Crysis 2 plays well NOW and you bitch that it isn't taxing enough? You fail at games.


The original Doom ran like a dog on some computers in its day. That was then, this is now, and I want better graphics then Doom and at least as good as the original Crysis. Crysis 2 is only dx 9, while the original was dx 10, and doesn't even have modding tools. Instead of beautiful trees and ocean, it has an arena style linear shooter look. Not good. Not a step forward, but a step back.
 

Lobo56

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Nope. I love a really great game. My favorite is Half Life 2 which I like as much for the story and gameplay as anything else.

However, Crysis has always been about the graphics. Other then great graphics it's never had much to offer. That's not just my opinion, but the opinion of many professional reviewers as well. The game play, story, etc. are OK, but nothing to write home about. If they can't continue to provide even better graphics or at least as good as the original I want nothing to do with the game.


Indeed, and the same professional reviewers are saying that the gameplay in Crysis 2 is better, hence, it is a better game.
 

wuliheron

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Indeed, and the same professional reviewers are saying that the gameplay in Crysis 2 is better, hence, it is a better game.


They say the gameplay is better, but the graphics are worse. Hence, its a much better game for the console then the PC, while the original was a much better game for the PC then the console.
 

Veliko

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They say the gameplay is better, but the graphics are worse. Hence, its a much better game for the console then the PC, while the original was a much better game for the PC then the console.

Erm, no. If the gameplay is better in the sequel then it doesn't matter what platform it is on - it is a better game on every system.
 
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