CS:GO Pro players found cheating - at LANs???

[videogames101]

http://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/

This is really big news in the CS scene. Two pros have been vac banned, both teams removed from Dreamhack winter next week. These are major teams too. They're (they = dreamhack/valve) flying out teams (from different organizations) for a qualifying tourny to take their places (replacing the cheating teams) at Dreamhack.

The word is that somehow these guys have been using steam workshop autosync to get cheats on LAN :hmm:

Really goes to show how terrible VAC has been. If people have been hacking at freaking LAN events, imagine how bad it really is online.


edit:added parentheticals for clarity

 

[DigDog]

bringing a hack to a lan, that's a bold move.

 

[Annisman*]

Good thing there are only nerds at LANS or there'd be fisticuffs ! ^_^

 

[Stringjam]

Had an old-school LAN party at a friend's house a couple of weeks ago (8 of us).

Went with CS:GO and it was a lot of fun, until I had 1 too many glasses of Ketel One, and then my aim suffered considerably.

I prefer Insurgency....that's some intense firefighting.

 

[Rezident]

I love gaming, it can be so much fun. When you start cheating instead of having fun, you really need to take a long, hard look at yourself. This I why I’ve gone back to single player gaming, there are so many blatant cheaters in multiplayer – aside from the ones who know how to hide it better – that it’s not as much fun, unless you are only playing with friends you know (and even then, I still seriously suspect one of them! I know he has boasted of using hacks in the past and sometimes it’s a bit obvious. I’m just glad I don’t need to cheat to win. Winning must feel a bit shallow if you know you had to cheat to do it.).

 

[WelshBloke]

Playing games - serious business

 

[Red Storm]

The punishment for (secretly) cheating at a LAN should be a beat down, mostly because it's the only time when you actually can beat a cheater!

 

[Grooveriding]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AgZBSI7f4

 

[tential]

Why are these teams allowed to send a replacement team?

They should have been disqualified for this season and had a new team take their place. If you're a team manager it's your duty to vet your players to ensure they aren't cheaters.

Doesn't seem like the right move but I've seen how Dreamhack has worked for other games so I'm not surprised at this ineptitude.

 

[gorcorps]

Why are these teams allowed to send a replacement team?

They should have been disqualified for this season and had a new team take their place. If you're a team manager it's your duty to vet your players to ensure they aren't cheaters.

Doesn't seem like the right move but I've seen how Dreamhack has worked for other games so I'm not surprised at this ineptitude.

Maybe I mis-read it, but that's exactly what I thought happened. The cheaters don't get to enter anymore, but since it's a tournament they need a certain number of total teams to compete so they're inviting DIFFERENT teams to try and fill the now vacant spaces.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Had an old-school LAN party at a friend's house a couple of weeks ago (8 of us).

Went with CS:GO and it was a lot of fun, until I had 1 too many glasses of Ketel One, and then my aim suffered considerably.

I prefer Insurgency....that's some intense firefighting.

Try Rising Storm

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AgZBSI7f4

lol, the CRT monitors

 

[thejohnfist]

I always found it laughable that people these days PAY for hacks/cheats/exploits/scripts whatever.

 

[tential]

Maybe I mis-read it, but that's exactly what I thought happened. The cheaters don't get to enter anymore, but since it's a tournament they need a certain number of total teams to compete so they're inviting DIFFERENT teams to try and fill the now vacant spaces.

How I read is the same organization is sending a DIFFERENT team.

So for example Cloud Nine's team got caught cheating. So instead of Cloud Nine being disqualified, Cloud NIne is simply settings a new team to replace the team that got caught cheating.

Many time an organization has multiple teams. Fnatic for Dota 2 had 2 teams (before both essentially collapsed), many League of Legends organizations had 2 teams, etc.

Edit: I only read the OP and didn't look for the Article so I based my post off the OP's wording. Looks like they're removing the organization from the tournament. The way the OP worded it it seemed the organizations were sending back up squads to play in place of them which would have irritated me to no end. I guess I just assumed the worst of Dreamhack.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

I always found it laughable that people these days PAY for hacks/cheats/exploits/scripts whatever.

well if they win a tournament with a 50K prize pool split among the team and sponsers you're still coming out ahead. So you spend like $1000 to make $2k. Not to mention most pros are streaming and they get donations.

 

[gothamhunter]

Playing games - serious business

See the prizes they get for placing? It definitely is.

 

[tential]

Playing games - serious business

That $10 million prizepool for Dota 2....
Meh, nothing I guess to you but for normal people? I think that's serious business....

 

[DigDog]

well if they win a tournament with a 50K prize pool split among the team and sponsers you're still coming out ahead. So you spend like $1000 to make $2k. Not to mention most pros are streaming and they get donations.

hacks will cost maybe fifty bucks a month at most. hacking can be very profitable, more so now with youtube. not every hacker is a rage machine, there's quite a few who hide them well.

i used to be very active on a anti-hack forum for a game i played a lot, we had a bunch of guys register to either pretend they didn't hack (we had proof, occasionally even from their own youtube channels), or to rub it in our face.
some guys make money from playing with hacks and pretending they are pro, others flat out make hacks videos - and these have a ton of views.

 

[werepossum]

I've never seen the point in using hacks (what's the point of others thinking you're the best if you know you aren't?) but for pros I can see it. Big money in prizes, bigger money in endorsements. It's like athletes doping.

Hopefully the guilty parties get lifetime bans.

 

[werepossum]

hacks will cost maybe fifty bucks a month at most. hacking can be very profitable, more so now with youtube. not every hacker is a rage machine, there's quite a few who hide them well.

i used to be very active on a anti-hack forum for a game i played a lot, we had a bunch of guys register to either pretend they didn't hack (we had proof, occasionally even from their own youtube channels), or to rub it in our face.
some guys make money from playing with hacks and pretending they are pro, others flat out make hacks videos - and these have a ton of views.

You're saying hacks are something one rents? How on Earth does that work?

 

[ThinClient]

You're saying hacks are something one rents? How on Earth does that work?

http://www.artificialaiming.net/

That's one of the biggest ones around.

Any idiot can make hacks easily for DirectX games. The smart ones lease their hacks to sites like this for a monthly paycheck. The customer pays a monthly fee like you would for an MMO. That enables their user/pass for the parent program that manages these hacks. The program is basically an all-included package for every game advertised on the website or a one-off purchase for one month for one specific game. The all-inclusive package basically makes it easy for the customer to not have to edit all the games they own. They can just launch the game, launch the cheat manager, and poof it works.

The list of games that AA covers is impressive and the quality of the cheats are very nice.

This is a multi-billion dollar per year industry. Yes, that's with a $B.

 

[DigDog]

You're saying hacks are something one rents? How on Earth does that work?

hacks have more DRM that a frikkin EA Sports title.

it works like steam - you need to run this service and *then* run the game. the service itself cost is monthly and if you stop paying the hack fails the online activation (it's always-on), and no more hack.

also, afaik, they link hacks to one particular account so if you get banned you have to buy a new hack. (hue)

did you think hacks were still stuff you downloaded from piratebay? this is a BIG!! business. google it.

 

[Nebor]

http://www.artificialaiming.net/

That's one of the biggest ones around.

Any idiot can make hacks easily for DirectX games. The smart ones lease their hacks to sites like this for a monthly paycheck. The customer pays a monthly fee like you would for an MMO. That enables their user/pass for the parent program that manages these hacks. The program is basically an all-included package for every game advertised on the website or a one-off purchase for one month for one specific game. The all-inclusive package basically makes it easy for the customer to not have to edit all the games they own. They can just launch the game, launch the cheat manager, and poof it works.

The list of games that AA covers is impressive and the quality of the cheats are very nice.

This is a multi-billion dollar per year industry. Yes, that's with a $B.

That makes me so angry. :thumbsdown:

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

This is a multi-billion dollar per year industry. Yes, that's with a $B.

lol, yeah, right.

 

[ThinClient]

lol, yeah, right.

You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.