Culver's owner pays $144K to employees out of pocket

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dighn

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I mean, if you are only doing it so you can feel good, you aren't doing anything other than eliciting a reward for an action.

that's somewhat of a nihilist view. why do you do anything out of free will? because it makes you feel good on some level, whether it's an act of kindness or adherence to some tenets you subscribe to. better that you feel good from acts of kindness rather than the opposite. in fact better that you feel good from it rather than following some code of ethics without any emotional involvement.
 

Phoenix86

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I doubt this guys altruism. I mean, this is a huge feel good news story, that will likely drum up a ton of business. Plus, he doesn't have to train new staff AND they are going to not be lazy fucks, as they feel the owner loves them. And, let's be honest here, this guy owns two restaurants, it is likely that over a 4 month period he isn't going to miss $144k.
He said it was the right business thing to do, not sure where he was altruistic about it.

Even restaurant owners would miss $144K, but like he said, he thinks it's the right business move (for the reasons you listed), so he thinks he will recover it. He's probably right, or at least close enough that keeping these people paid for that time period is more than worth it to him.
 

Jeff7

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Six months to the day of the fire, the restaurant reopened on June 16. Less than 24 hours later it was closed again when a tornado came within 20 yards of the restaurants door. It didn't do any damage to the building but debris was strewn throughout the property and employees spent the next day cleaning up.
Sounds like it's time to pack it in for good.
 

destrekor

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If you are going to correct me (it's pop) by saying soda, you should understand we are both wrong and clearly not giving the whole proper title for the carbonated beverages.

"Soda Pop"



Coke and Cola are flat out wrong. One's a brand of cola, and colas are a subset of the soda pop category.
 

rstrohkirch

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I'm the general manager for 2 A&W and 7 Little Caesar restaurants. If anyone has questions regarding costs or what not I can try and answer them with factual information. I say this because over half of the stuff posted in this thread is quite a bit off base. An A&W and a Culver's are very similar machines for more than one reason if you know Culver's history.
 

Engineer

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I'm the general manager for 2 A&W and 7 Little Caesar restaurants. If anyone has questions regarding costs or what not I can try and answer them with factual information. I say this because over half of the stuff posted in this forum is quite a bit off base.


First, thanks for the offer. Seconds, changed a big for more accuracy.
 

Jeff7

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And where do you s'pose they should proceed to do that?

:ninja:
Sounds like they'd just have to wait a few more weeks. A fresh fault line will probably open up, and the store will find itself on a one-way subduction course to the mantle, where it will remain permanently packed-in.
 

mcurphy

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I'm the general manager for 2 A&W and 7 Little Caesar restaurants. If anyone has questions regarding costs or what not I can try and answer them with factual information. I say this because over half of the stuff posted in this thread is quite a bit off base. An A&W and a Culver's are very similar machines for more than one reason if you know Culver's history.

A&W is fantastic!. I frequent both the Janesville and Edgerton locations! Nothing like a refreshing, icy cold pop in one of those giant mugs to wash down a great burger. I wish they had more locations!
 

vi edit

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I'm the general manager for 2 A&W and 7 Little Caesar restaurants.

I do have a question...

Do you guys put crack in your jalapeno crazy bread sauce? I can make a meal out of just a box of that. Too bad it hasn't made it down to Kentucky yet. Used to get it up north all the time. They looked like me like some kind of lunatic when I asked for it down here.
 

rstrohkirch

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I do have a question...

Do you guys put crack in your jalapeno crazy bread sauce? I can make a meal out of just a box of that. Too bad it hasn't made it down to Kentucky yet. Used to get it up north all the time. They looked like me like some kind of lunatic when I asked for it down here.

Little Caesars really doesn't have special or regional products which means the manager or owner can in fact order some of those in if they wanted to. They do have grandfathered items that a new store opening today wouldn't be allowed to make or order product for. But those little dip sauces aren't one of those. Those would be things subs and calzones.
 

vi edit

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This wasn't the dipping sauce. It's the Jalapeno crazy bread itself. Can't get it down here in KY. Instead they have an Italian cheesy bread. Not the same thing. Boo!
 

rstrohkirch

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This wasn't the dipping sauce. It's the Jalapeno crazy bread itself. Can't get it down here in KY. Instead they have an Italian cheesy bread. Not the same thing. Boo!

Ok, you are talking about the Zesty Cheese Bread? We don't carry that product at any of our locations either to be honest. =]

I don't think we even ordered in anything to test it. I use the store next to my office to test things so I may have to get them to order up the items to see how it sells.
 

Ruptga

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144,000 for four months, so 144,000*3 = $432,000 yearly on payroll, 432k/40 employees = $10,800 per employee per year.

Yep, I bet he really does love his employees.
 

ultimatebob

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144,000 for four months, so 144,000*3 = $432,000 yearly on payroll, 432k/40 employees = $10,800 per employee per year.

Yep, I bet he really does love his employees.

I'd imagine that the guy probably gives most of his workers less than 30 hours a week so he doesn't have to give them health insurance, either.
 

ultimatebob

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One guy does something good and a fight breaks out on ATOT about every aspect of it. Heh.

Judging from the way you talk about your job, I figured that you would be just as jaded and bitter as the rest of us by now
 

dank69

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If you are going to correct me (it's pop) by saying soda, you should understand we are both wrong and clearly not giving the whole proper title for the carbonated beverages.

"Soda Pop"



Coke and Cola are flat out wrong. One's a brand of cola, and colas are a subset of the soda pop category.
You are wrong. We are both right. Both soda and pop are acceptable on their own, but only one sounds civilized.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
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I'm the general manager for 2 A&W and 7 Little Caesar restaurants. If anyone has questions regarding costs or what not I can try and answer them with factual information. I say this because over half of the stuff posted in this thread is quite a bit off base. An A&W and a Culver's are very similar machines for more than one reason if you know Culver's history.

OK, I got a inside baseball questions:

1) How come you guys aren't part of Yum brands anymore?

2) Since you're not part of Yum anymore, how come you guys are still ordering equipment from UFPC? Their prices seem to suck.
 

alkemyst

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What kind of fucked of life have you lived that you think 0.01% of people do good deeds without expecting a reward. My neighbors and I do shit for each other all the time... Wait, you mean feeling good about doing good is counted as a reward? WTF should I feel bad about doing something good?

reach-arounds?
 

rstrohkirch

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OK, I got a inside baseball questions:

1) How come you guys aren't part of Yum brands anymore?

2) Since you're not part of Yum anymore, how come you guys are still ordering equipment from UFPC? Their prices seem to suck.


1.) Yum never wanted A&W but they had to take it as a co-brand when they bought Long John Silvers or no deal. So YUM has always viewed A&W as the ugly step child so to speak.

They never put much resources into building the brand and half of the staff they had at corporate weren't skilled at their jobs. You'd go to co-op meetings every month or two and they were constantly coming up with ridiculous ideas on what direction they wanted the brand to go or what new products they wanted to introduce. Except they never followed through with things and the next meeting they'd scrap everything and talk about a different direction they wanted to go.

I'm not a fan of YUM and the current owners of the brand as well as the staff are drastically better at understanding what owners need and how to help them individually drive business.

2.) We are still in the purchasing co-op because it was negotiated at the time of sale to the new owners. I don't recall how long we have though before that ends. We don't really buy much through them except a few specific operating supplies. We still have to go through them for certain large items, say like a new sign for a building or similar. We also compare their prices on large equipment like flat grills or fryers before we make a purchase. Generally on those items they can be competitive.
 
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