CUSL2?

[Wingznut]

But there's a big difference between being stable at 1.65 and POSTing at 1.65. Going through a POST, barely taxes a cpu.

 

[jzodda]

Well you are right and that is what creates the bug. Normally with most boards that you overclock the voltage you set sticks at all times, hence giving you the stability you need overclocked. At default voltage I could never run at 952 and would never attempt to do so. In this case, since the voltage that you need to run stable does not kick in till the OS begins to load the CUSL2 does one of 3 things. It boots into the bios at 466, or at your default CPU speed or for the most unlucky it will not boot at all and they have to go through the garbage of holding down the insert key to the most drastic remedy of removing the cmos battery on each cold boot (very few folks have it that bad)

In my case the CUSL2 just boots right into the bios at 466. My settings are already set though (meaning that I have my voltage set to 1.85V but hardware monitoring reports it as 1.65V). I just set my FSB to 100 and reboot. On the reboot as the OS begins to load I reboot again. I then go into the bios and set my FSB to 136. In hardware monitoring my voltage is now correct at 1.85V and then I exit and load into Windows.

 

[Wingznut]

Right... if it won't pass POST at 1.65v, then it defaults to 66mhz fsb.

But I'm under the impression that if a P3-700cpu is a good overclocker, it'll post just fine at 1.65v (at 133mhz fsb). If it's not a good overclocker, then it'll fail POSTing at 1.65, but it also wouldn't be stable at 133mhz fsb anyway, no matter what you set the voltage to when the OS boots.

(Heh, did I make any sense?)

 

[SnoopyDog]

jzodda

Its funny though. I have NEVER had the coold boot problem on my CUSL2.

I works perfectly 100%. My MB is also O/C and it always shows the right setting on the boot up screen. Even on a cold boot.

For your all. THIS IS A GREAT BOARD. Now doubt about that.

Sorry for my bad english. I am Danish.


Snoopy Dog

 

[pyr]

Wingznut PEZ: Yea the 700 is a good overclocker but they are not all the same. I have to boost the voltage to 1.8 or 1.85 to make it stable at 933 but I have no issues with it at all when doing so. Its the voltage increases that make it stable. Hell, the 933 is supposed to have a default of 1.7 itself. Why? Because intel knows that increasing the voltage helps stability at high speeds.

 

[Wingznut]

I understand, and I completely agree. Don't forget that I am now running my second 700e at 1ghz. My previous one wouldn't do anything above 868mhz, even on other motherboards (I tried four different boards.)

But the CUSL-2 only defaults the voltage during POST. After POST, the voltage goes to whatever you set it at.

 

[Radboy]

P3-700 cB0 @938 (2-2-2). No probs.

 

[Syborg1211]

I heard that the cold boot bug applies more to not so standard bus speeds, like 138 or something not 133,100, or 66

 

[subhuman]

Can anyone verify that the i815EP does indeed support 1.5gb of ram? It looks to me to have the same exact support, and the recent ASUS CUSL2-C announcement doesn't say anything about it, nor does the i815EP information on Intel's site.

I read this information on ANANDTECH's webnews about 3-4 weeks ago (1.5gb RAM), but can't find any other evidence.

 

[Syborg1211]

Alright, I have decided I can't wait, and besides, I am never going to get more than 256 mb of ram.

 

[LXi]

So you've decided on the CUSL2? Oh well.

 

[Syborg1211]

Can someone direct me to a good deal or good price? I can't find a CUSL2 in the stock of my usual places(aka Onvia and Buy)

 

[LXi]

Hm... no chance for the MSI? I know a place where you can get a great deal on.

 

[subhuman]

i have been snagging my CUSL2's from mwave.com lately. but, i get a bunch of other parts at the same time (ie, KingMAX tinyBGA PC150 ram for $90, black KEYTRONICS keyboards, etc), which evens out the price and shipping charges...

 

[SaturnX]

Hrmm.. alrite, been gone for a while so I couldn't respond, well what I simply meant with my comment of waiting for a well written BIOS, I was just referring to the BIOS of when it was released, (incorrect temps/flashing issue). Though now, I'm aware that latest BIOS has correct many many issue, and either way, I feel any model of the CUSL2 is great.

--Mark

 

[Midnight Rambler]

Hardly anyone has the CUSL2 in stick right now, as far as big name retailers (BUY, NECX, etc.). Part of that is because one of their main distributors, Ingram, doesn't usually carry them. And the other major distributor, Tech Data, is out of stock. Pricewatch shows some smaller dealers with it in stock, but price has jumped to about $135-140 + shipping.

This isn't the FS/FT forum but I happen to have an extra one from someone who backed out of a system, never been used, everything is still sealed other than anti-static bag seal is broken as I made a general inspection of the board to make sure it had no defects/broken components/etc. Only downside is you wouldn't be able to return it to the original retailer, but the full Asus warranty is applicable (it hasn't been registered yet). PM me and make me an offer if you are interested ...

Are you definitely going to be overclocking? If not, there are other alternatives that are good boards.

Or, you could even go with the MSI if overclocking ...

 

[LXi]

<<Or, you could even go with the MSI if overclocking ...>>

Wow... is that the uh... first time in history?

 

[LXi]

From Anand's Intel roadmap:

<<&quot;Unfortunately the i815EP still has the same limitations as the regular i815E chipset, mainly the 512MB memory limit and the 2 x CAS2 PC133 SDRAM module limit.&quot;>>

Ah well, one less reason to wait for i815EP.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

<< same limitations as the regular i815E chipset ... and the 2 x CAS2 PC133 SDRAM module limit >>

Say what? Never heard of this one ...

 

[LXi]

The 2 PC133 module thing is a limitation of the chipset, not any particular board manufacturer's fault. I have no clue how Asus got around it.

 

[johnjk]

Alright, where's the good deal on the msi?

 

[LXi]

mwave.com, $109.

 

[Syborg1211]

I am mainly buying a board to overclock. I need a 1/2 agp bus ratio to overclock my geforce. Sadly enough, my geforce won't do over 120 at a 2/3 ratio. Anyone know how to disable fastwrites or something on an ABIT BE6-2...

Anyways, is the MSI jumperless?

Also, which one will be able to handle fsb speeds of around 150?

 

[Syborg1211]

The reason I want jumperless is frankly because I am lazy.

 

[jzodda]

Too bad you didnt decide on the CUSL2 earlier. I had one that I sold here for $135 2 weeks back. They do seem hard to come by these days. I also remember reading that Intel was going to limit prduction if this chipset. Due to all their screwups maybe they changed their stategy, but if not maybe thats why you are having a hard time finding them in stock.

As a sidenote, hasnt Abit just released a sequal to the SE6 that got a good review here? Is that out in stores yet?

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