Custom Laptops.

BoomAM

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Hi.
Im looking for a laptop company, apart from dell, that does custom laptops that can have 2 batteries installed in it.
Can anyone name a few?
& they've got to be able to deliver to the UK.

Ive tryed the usuals, like Alienware & VoodooPC, but they are over priced.

Thanks in advance.
 

BoomAM

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Bump.
Upto now, the only good laptop ive found with 2 batteries is the Dell Latitude D810.
Any others?
 

inhotep

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Well I know the Asus Z63a (W3a) have a swap bay. You can have primary battery with the swap bay battery.
 

Trippytiger

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Most business class laptops can be run with two batteries. Most Latitudes should, as will most of HP's business line, and I believe that all of the ThinkPads can take a second battery.
 

BoomAM

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The Latitude D810 does.
I did a bit of research, so im gonna get the D810.
 

gwrober

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We're running D810's - great machine, got the upgraded battery and purchased second. I can pull about 10-11 hours before recharging. Kinda heavy, but we got them for performance. If I need to travel light I use my X200, but batt. life sux0rs.
 

Trippytiger

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Originally posted by: inhotep
"business class" lol got the marketing in your head?

There's a pretty distinct difference between laptops targeted towards the average consumer and those targeted at business users.

How many of your precious non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings, modular optical bays, Trackpoints, docks, fingerprint readers, embedded security features, active hard drive protection, or three year warranties?

My T42 had all of those. I define a business class laptop as having most of the above features and being marketed towards large business and corporations.
 

makken

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Originally posted by: Trippytiger
Originally posted by: inhotep
"business class" lol got the marketing in your head?

There's a pretty distinct difference between laptops targeted towards the average consumer and those targeted at business users.

How many of your precious non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings, modular optical bays, Trackpoints, docks, fingerprint readers, embedded security features, active hard drive protection, or three year warranties?

My T42 had all of those. I define a business class laptop as having most of the above features and being marketed towards large business and corporations.


A lot of 'consumer' laptops already have many, if not all, of those features.

I think business class is more about the accessories, dock support, and no nonsense design.

and to imhotep, no it's not all marketing. I've NEVER seen advertising for business grade laptops. If there is an ad, it's always centered around the consumer lineups.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: makken
Originally posted by: Trippytiger
Originally posted by: inhotep
"business class" lol got the marketing in your head?

There's a pretty distinct difference between laptops targeted towards the average consumer and those targeted at business users.

How many of your precious non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings, modular optical bays, Trackpoints, docks, fingerprint readers, embedded security features, active hard drive protection, or three year warranties?

My T42 had all of those. I define a business class laptop as having most of the above features and being marketed towards large business and corporations.


A lot of 'consumer' laptops already have many, if not all, of those features.

I think business class is more about the accessories, dock support, and no nonsense design.

and to imhotep, no it's not all marketing. I've NEVER seen advertising for business grade laptops. If there is an ad, it's always centered around the consumer lineups.


Well that's because major companies like IBM don't need to put adds on TV and newspapers so everyone can see how good ther servers are or how secure a T series is, when you are in a position such as IBM's you are considered a mastermind in business, ppl come to you if they are intrested, you don't go to them. But as the case is for ppl like Dell they are just icky, they are all over the place like attention whores they need a customer from a cloud, there ads and coupons are floating all over the place...etc. Why ? Well they just don't have enough quality in their products to attract enough customers.

And to clarify it to others, ppl think that IBM's embedded security system is worthless, well ofcourse because as a personal user you may not have use for them, but that's not how buisnesses look at the situation, if they have laptop and somebody is using it to develop a project, a SH!T load of money is in risk in case any info was leaked due to the theft or loss of that laptop, and here is where IBM's security features kick in, as follows.

1-The laptop can't go beyond post due to the password setup in BIOS.

2- Let's say whoever stole your laptop was able to bypass the BIOS issue, well good, windows loads and before you get to the login screen you get a screen from IBM asking you for a fingerprint scan and a passphrase, your screwed.

3-You decide to remove the harddrive and hook it up to an exact thinkpad from which the hdd was extracted, oops NO GO !! Why ?
The embedded security system includes a chipset that encrypts your entire harddrive specifically for that exact unit, no way that harddrive well get the encryption broken without the original unit , and the original unit is useless due to the protection it already has on it.

4- You decide that you might try a little bit more , a little bit after that, the door bell rings, who is it ? The police !!!!
What do they want, they came for the laptop and you.
How did they find you well thanks to the tracking software that IBM supplys buisnesses they are able to locate the laptop in coordination with the local law enforcement, and return the laptop to the company untouched.
 

BoomAM

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Originally posted by: gwrober
We're running D810's - great machine, got the upgraded battery and purchased second. I can pull about 10-11 hours before recharging. Kinda heavy, but we got them for performance. If I need to travel light I use my X200, but batt. life sux0rs.
Upgraded battery?
It comes with a 80Wph doesnt it? Do you mean that you bought a media bay battery?
 

Trippytiger

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Originally posted by: makken
A lot of 'consumer' laptops already have many, if not all, of those features.

I think business class is more about the accessories, dock support, and no nonsense design.

and to imhotep, no it's not all marketing. I've NEVER seen advertising for business grade laptops. If there is an ad, it's always centered around the consumer lineups.

And a lot of them don't. Of the major manufacturers, I can only think of Asus, Fujitsu, and Apple that offer very many of those features in their 'consumer' laptops. I'm sure there's more, but I think that is still one of the most noticeable differences between 'business' and 'consumer' notebooks. Those are certainly the main reasons why I decided against getting consumer grade stuff.

Of course, you are right about the accesories, dock support, design, etc. I'm sure that those are the main things that businesses look at when they're in the market.

Well that's because major companies like IBM don't need to put adds on TV and newspapers so everyone can see how good ther servers are or how secure a T series is,

Have you never seen all of those IBM ads? They advertise their servers and their consulting services on TV all the time, and Lenovo is now using the commercials that IBM was running for their laptops a while ago. They're very funny ads, too. IBM has some good marketing people.

 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: Trippytiger
Originally posted by: makken
A lot of 'consumer' laptops already have many, if not all, of those features.

I think business class is more about the accessories, dock support, and no nonsense design.

and to imhotep, no it's not all marketing. I've NEVER seen advertising for business grade laptops. If there is an ad, it's always centered around the consumer lineups.

And a lot of them don't. Of the major manufacturers, I can only think of Asus, Fujitsu, and Apple that offer very many of those features in their 'consumer' laptops. I'm sure there's more, but I think that is still one of the most noticeable differences between 'business' and 'consumer' notebooks. Those are certainly the main reasons why I decided against getting consumer grade stuff.

Of course, you are right about the accesories, dock support, design, etc. I'm sure that those are the main things that businesses look at when they're in the market.

Well that's because major companies like IBM don't need to put adds on TV and newspapers so everyone can see how good ther servers are or how secure a T series is,

Have you never seen all of those IBM ads? They advertise their servers and their consulting services on TV all the time, and Lenovo is now using the commercials that IBM was running for their laptops a while ago. They're very funny ads, too. IBM has some good marketing people.


Ofcourse IBM has ads, when I said they don't advertise like Dell does, I didn't mean they don't do it at all , how can you be a business that doesn't advertise service / products and survive, but my point was that IBM stands for International Business Machines, they don't target end users because there extra services are almost useless for ppl who are looking for a PC that is required for applications centered around media / gaming , now Lenovo is a different company , and if Lenovo didn't have intentions to target end users it would have been a fatal mistake to purchase the personal desktops / laptop section of IBM. Because that sector was saying because IBM's customers are a small share of the market when it comes to the laptop / desktop sector of their trade and over time they realised that they should focus on the sector that got them started in the begening. For me it doesn't matter since Lenovo was already doing Thinkpads for IBM long before the purchase, and as long as they don't tamper with what makes IBM Laptops unique (i.e Quality, Style) I am ok. But on the good side of things when a person buys a Thinkpad for personal use like my case, it's not like a bad choice, it's actually good becasue that customer knows that he / she is getting something not only qualified for what they need it for, but actually they are over-qualified for the purpose, and hence the price premium.
 

inhotep

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Originally posted by: Trippytiger
Originally posted by: inhotep
"business class" lol got the marketing in your head?

There's a pretty distinct difference between laptops targeted towards the average consumer and those targeted at business users.

How many of your precious non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings, modular optical bays, Trackpsoint, docks, fingerprint readers, embedded security features, active hard drive protection, or three year warranties?

My T42 had all of those. I define a business class laptop as having most of the above features and being marketed towards large business and corporations.


You have good points with the "business user" notebooks. However, to answer your questions about how many of my precious Non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings: Just to name one, Asus. Are there any reasons why magnesium is so important considering carbon-fiber casing is lighter and stronger? Modular /HDD/optical / battery bay? Asus Trackpoint? Asus again. Fingerprint? Asus had fingerprint reader on some notebooks since 2001, few years before IBM came out with it (Asustek B1000). fingerprint reader is nice, however, locking the HDD also provide similar protection. Every notebook have some kind of "embedded security features" in bios setup etc. active hard drive protection? yes every hard drive has it. it is called S.M.A.R.T.

three year warranties? you got me here. I don't know any barebone dealers who have contracts with those "next day in your house technicians" but some do offer extanded warranty. Then again, do barebone builders need next day service? probably not.

Asus is not the only non-brand who offer those features. If my opportunity-cost for a laptop is not relevant, I would get an IBM too.
How how much would a new battery cost? Integrated CPU is another killer. He is in the UK, I assume he been to london. There is a BIG IBM office across from the london financial district, next to thelondon bridge. Note the user states: "ve tryed the usuals, like Alienware & VoodooPC, but they are over priced." Usual=brand names. Overprice= imply significant opportunity-cost to buy the USUALs.
IBM can be considered overprices compare to a dell yes. But IBM notebooks kick butt too.

Ah forgot about the docking station. Docking stations are nice. Yes some asus notebooks have their own docking stations. There are also universal dock stations that works with most notebooks.
business users are really average users right? but they use it for "business".
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: inhotep
Originally posted by: Trippytiger
Originally posted by: inhotep
"business class" lol got the marketing in your head?

There's a pretty distinct difference between laptops targeted towards the average consumer and those targeted at business users.

How many of your precious non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings, modular optical bays, Trackpsoint, docks, fingerprint readers, embedded security features, active hard drive protection, or three year warranties?

My T42 had all of those. I define a business class laptop as having most of the above features and being marketed towards large business and corporations.


You have good points with the "business user" notebooks. However, to answer your questions about how many of my precious Non-branded notebooks have magnesium casings: Just to name one, Asus. Are there any reasons why magnesium is so important considering carbon-fiber casing is lighter and stronger? Modular /HDD/optical / battery bay? Asus Trackpoint? Asus again. Fingerprint? Asus had fingerprint reader on some notebooks since 2001, few years before IBM came out with it (Asustek B1000). fingerprint reader is nice, however, locking the HDD also provide similar protection. Every notebook have some kind of "embedded security features" in bios setup etc. active hard drive protection? yes every hard drive has it. it is called S.M.A.R.T.

three year warranties? you got me here. I don't know any barebone dealers who have contracts with those "next day in your house technicians" but some do offer extanded warranty. Then again, do barebone builders need next day service? probably not.

Asus is not the only non-brand who offer those features. If my opportunity-cost for a laptop is not relevant, I would get an IBM too.
Note the user states: "ve tryed the usuals, like Alienware & VoodooPC, but they are over priced." Usual=brand names. Overprice= imply significant opportunity-cost to buy the USUALs. IBM can be considered overprices compare to a dell yes. But IBM notebooks kick butt too.

That line I can always agree with ppl on ----> Typed on a Thinkpad.
 
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