Custom R9 290/290X Reviews/Availability/Listings thread

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fleshconsumed

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People want the warranty

From what I understand, most manufacturers in the US will warranty card with AIO mod as long as there is no physical damage to the card and you put it to the original configuration before RMA'ing it. Not sure if true, but I even heard that all manufacturers have to warranty it by law.

XFX doesn't void the warranty if you swap the cooler. I'm moving to a closed loop one myself early next month, using that bracket thing though, not zip-ties

I just used the stock CPU bracket that came with the AIO cooler. All I had to do was drill four 2.5mm holes in the bracket and buy four 2.5x20mm screws. Total cost about $3 from ace hardware. To cool VRMs I just suspended 92mm fan on elastic string from the card itself, R9 290 have four mounting holes that fit 92mm fan almost perfect.
 
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blastingcap

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From what I understand, most manufacturers in the US will warranty card with AIO mod as long as there is no physical damage to the card and you put it to the original configuration before RMA'ing it. Not sure if true, but I even heard that all manufacturers have to warranty it by law.

Only XFX (explicitly) and MSI (reportedly) allow cooler changes or TIM swapping. Powercolor, GB, Sapphire, and others have explicitly said that this will void warranty.

For instance, Sapphire says warranty void if you change anything in USA: http://www.overclock.net/t/1444881/sapphire-after-market-coolers-and-warranty Gigabyte too, apparently: http://forum.ncix.com/archive/index.php/t-2615060.html and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290x-thermal-paste-efficiency,3678.html

Similarly, Powercolor says no warranty if you modify the card: http://www.powercolor.com/us/support_warranty.asp

"Removal and/or damaging of the S/N or P/N sticker(s) on any PowerColor products will VOID all warranties associated with that product."

and

"PowerColor products sent in for RMA MUST be free of any improper use, including but not limited to physical damage from dropping, improper installation, or modification of any kind (this includes installing aftermarket cooling solutions). The warranty WILL BE VOID if the product has been damaged or altered."

Not sure about ASUS, though they have horrible reputations for video card warranty service anyway judging by the negative comments in the other thread. For what it's worth I had a good ASUS RMA laptop experience but some say that ASUS's laptops warranties are treated better than video card warranties. I've never had to RMA an ASUS mobo but know that they have a pretty strict policy on mobos, where it has to be perfect condition, or they will claim you bent something or whatever.
 

fleshconsumed

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None of the Gigabyte cards I saw had any warranty stickers covering the screws, so you could put stock cooler back and Gigabyte would never know. Quick google search showed that Powercolor and Sapphire R9 290's don't have any stickers covering the screws either, so you can still put the card back to stock for warranty repair.
 

blastingcap

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If you want to risk it, it's your card. I'd rather keep my warranty rather than give them any excuse to deny.
 
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So the Sapphire one has Hynix, Asus and Gigabyte has Elpida?

Anyone know how the XFX R290 DD stack up? I can't find any reviews on it.
 

fleshconsumed

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If you want to risk it, it's your card. I'd rather keep my warranty rather than give them any excuse to deny.

I did. I like my computers quiet. Ever since the rise of the tower heatsinks it's been very easy to cool CPUs quietly. Not so much with the videocards, they put out as much heat as the CPU now, but the heatsinks are tiny, so it's much harder to cool them quietly. The stock cooling solutions, even tri-fan ones always sound like a jet engine to me. I have used aftermarket coolers on every video card I owned since 6800GT. The only card that really failed on me after installing aftermarket cooler was EVGA GTX260c216. It put it back to stock and it was RMA'ed without any problem. I put the same aftermarket cooler on warranty replacement and it's been chugging along just fine for the next few years until I finally retired it.

The AIO closed water loop "mod" works really great for video cards. Mine never goes above 65 degrees under full load. That's a lot cooler than stock, and a lot quieter too, quieter than even these tri-x cards. I have also had problems with stock fans failing because lubrication dries up from the extreme temperatures they're subjected to. What do you do then? Replace your card through warranty? That's not an issue with the mod because the temperatures are not as extreme and even if it does fail, it's an easy replacements - you just pop in another 120mm fan.

Point is, the "mod" is great, easy to do, and cools better than any "tri-x" solution ever will. If anyone is really paranoid about warranty, just buy from mod friendly company such as XFX.

So the Sapphire one has Hynix, Asus and Gigabyte has Elpida?

Anyone know how the XFX R290 DD stack up? I can't find any reviews on it.

From what I understand the memory you get is a luck of draw. It depends on the manufacturer, but AFAIK when it comes to R9 you're most likely to get elpida, followed by hynix. I don't think I've ever seen report of R9 card with samsung ram, but I do not really follow the news too closely.
 

RaulF

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Yeah memory is luck of the draw.

I have owned 2 Sapphire 290 BF4 bundles. First one was Elpida, and second one Hynix.
 

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I guess this has been asked before, but I'd like to know two things after reading about the power supply to the cards:

  1. What exactly is the advantage of using two 8 pin adapters?
  2. How likely will it be, for board partners to bring out a version with two 8 pin adapters instead of one 6 pin and one 8 pin?
 

Rvenger

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Interesting and kind of surprising that much of a difference imo.
Tri-X FTW


I would love to just purchase that cooler to replace my reference cooler. Sapphire should sell it separately, it would sell like hot cakes at the right price.
 

OCGuy

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I guess this has been asked before, but I'd like to know two things after reading about the power supply to the cards:

  1. What exactly is the advantage of using two 8 pin adapters?
  2. How likely will it be, for board partners to bring out a version with two 8 pin adapters instead of one 6 pin and one 8 pin?

A theoretically higher power ceiling.

I doubt a board partner wants to warrant even more power going to these chips, but I was wrong about a custom water-cooled card, so there is a chance I am wrong again
 

Imouto

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As for me, the very first thing I do when building in a similar case for a friend is turning the PSU belly up to act as another outtake. Opening the free PCI bays is always a good option if you have a strong positive pressure airflow.

Also the 24*12 radiator on top isn't the brightest idea ever if you're thermally constrained. A single 12*12 radiator for the CPU closed loop in the rear with 2 12*12 fans in the upper part for extra intake. Fresh air for the CPU radiator and plenty of positive pressure.
 

IEC

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A theoretically higher power ceiling.

I doubt a board partner wants to warrant even more power going to these chips, but I was wrong about a custom water-cooled card, so there is a chance I am wrong again

MSI 290X Lightning supposedly will have 2x 8 pin and 1x 6pin...
 

OCGuy

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MSI 290X Lightning supposedly will have 2x 8 pin and 1x 6pin...

Came here to prove myself wrong in record time but it looks like you beat me to it!


Yes this card does look beastly, and it has 2x 8 and 1x 6 with the 6 pin being optional.....would love to read the warranty information though

http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/CES-2014-MSI-Previews-Radeon-R9-290X-Lightning


If they keep the guaranteed clock as low as everyone else, I think that is a cop-out, personally.
 

OCGuy

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Tri-X back in stock..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202080

I'm guessing it's only a matter of time for the prices on these custom cards to drop though, newegg has 93 of the MSI Radeon R9 290X in stock.. I don't think they're selling all that fast at $720..

When a 780 ti can be had for $660.....I think they must still be cashing in on the mining craze...no way a gamer is paying this for a 290.
 

SimianR

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Looks like Newegg Canada also has a bunch of stock available...even the Sapphire Tri-X.

Pretty sure the stock is pulled from the same place, since they ship all the cards to .ca customers from their California warehouse.
 

RaulF

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kind of surprised there still isn't a single review of an MSI R9 290/X Gaming cards. They can send over 100 cards to newegg but not a single card to a hardware site?

*oops, meant to edit not reply to my own post, oops. Sorry for the spam

Yup.

Is been over a week now with the MSI cards in stock and not a single review.
 

SimianR

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How do you find out how many they have in Stock?

Try to add a ridiculous number to your cart, like 100, and it will tell you insufficient quantity and show you how many they actually have on hand. Unless they have 100.. in which case go bigger (Some cards you can't do this with where they limit the quantity to 3 per customer and so on). Also I believe newegg business accounts can see quantity in stock.
 
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