Custom R9 290X

[Silverforce11]

$570?? Hilariously good for the price, and nearly 1.2ghz core OC with amazing temps/noise.

Puts to bed the stupid "R290/X doesn't scale with OC" crap, we all knew it was throttling due to the terrible reference cooler at 55% fan cap.

 

[ShintaiDK]

BAM!!! http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...694-asus-r9-290x-directcu-ii-oc-review-2.html

Its amazing what a proper cooler can do. This is how it should have been on reference tho. Still no match for the TI.

 

[Silverforce11]

Its amazing what a proper cooler can do. This is how it should have been on reference tho. Still no match for the TI.

Should it match the Ti at $570?

 

[Silverforce11]

I was hoping a big improvement but it is not i am really disappointed.

Were you hoping for the second coming of Jesus by any chance?

Really, what exactly were your expectations? lol

 

[desprado]

Were you hoping for the second coming of Jesus by any chance?

Really, what exactly were your expectations? lol

Really i was thinking OC can beat GTX 780 TI reference but not like Asus GTX 780 DC OC can beat R9 290X.

 

[jj109]

$570?? Hilariously good for the price, and nearly 1.2ghz core OC with amazing temps/noise.

Puts to bed the stupid "R290/X doesn't scale with OC" crap, we all knew it was throttling due to the terrible reference cooler at 55% fan cap.

That's at 1337 mV. Not quite the slam dunk scaling you're looking for.

Cripes. I had been doing so well just lurking too.

 

[wand3r3r]

Wow, pretty impressive.

The OC war may start once these hit the market. 1200 isn't bad, and since the reference may be throttling it can be over a 20% gain.

 

[3DVagabond]

This is just a DCII. We've still got Matrix, Lightning, and Toxic to look forward to. Not bad for only $20 more than the reference.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

1195 /w 1337mv

 

[wand3r3r]

This is just a DCII. We've still got Matrix, Lightning, and Toxic to look forward to. Not bad for only $20 more than the reference.

Oh yeah I was thinking $500 but it is only $20 more. Too bad it's Asus though.

This seems to correct the major flaws of the 290x reference though. It'll be interesting to see more OC results and better brands aftermarket cards.

 

[Silverforce11]

This is just a DCII. We've still got Matrix, Lightning, and Toxic to look forward to. Not bad for only $20 more than the reference.

Yup, many people are forgetting, a lot of users had bought reference and slap on aftermarket coolers worth $50-70 on it to get less results (AC or Gelid are terrible for VRMs) than this $20 premium Asus model.

$570 for a screamer performing card thats cool and quiet..

"the core easily hit nearly 1.2GHz while the memory evened out at 6016MHz. The best part about this is there’s even more room there since fan speeds were at 60% (which was still surprisingly quiet). And yes, there's still more in the tank."

"By using it alongside the Performance Mode, frequencies could be pushed to the point where the R9 290X DirectCU II had no problem matching and in many situations beating NVIDIA’s mighty GTX 780 Ti."

Honestly if R290s were launched with custom designs such as this, retailing for $420 compared to the $400 reference, that would have been a total killer card.

 

[parvadomus]

As I said, custom 290X are far better than reference. This has almost no OC, and matches 780TI (looks like full GK110 is a little bit faster clock for clock, maybe 5%?). Impressive achievement by AMD with a chip 30% smaller.

 

[Imouto]

Oh, man. So much stuff put to rest with the first custom card. I really hope some mantras to stop right away.

Impressive achievement by AMD with a chip 30% smaller.

Hawaii is 22% smaller than GK110.
GK110 is 28% bigger than Hawaii.

Not the same.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

It will probably be $650 on respectable websites, reference is already sitting at $600/$630. Regardless of what the MSRP is.

At stock it uses as much power as the 780 Ti GHz, while OC'ed it isn't even as fast... Given the 1337mv they needed to hit 1195Mz, the power is probably considerably higher at that point as well.

I think aftermarket R290x will compete with top bin 780s (with volt mods) in the OC war, 780 Ti OC has no real competition outside 4k.

I think we all saw this coming with the clocks/voltages people were doing with water, chip is too dense, too much heat, needs too much voltage to push through the leakage. It's not a bad chip, but it's priced where it should be without the gouging taking place, slightly above the 780, below the 780 Ti.

 

[Silverforce11]

At stock it uses as much power as the 780 Ti GHz, while OC'ed it isn't even as fast...

It highly depends on the games being tested. In that review, there were a few that NV won, with stock 780 performing near R290X (which we know its false over a wide selection of games), and a few that AMD won.

Lets not inflate the price higher than its officially going for, since many parts of the world DO NOT have the same experience as newegg.

Edit: Out of those games,

NV wins: AC3, C3, FC3, Metro (kinda even due to pricing).
AMD wins: Dirt Showdown, Hitman, MP3, Tomb Raider (due to pricing, Asus R290X matching 780 ti).

As for your 780 OC, again, highly game dependent, but hey, its got a long way to catch up to a stock R290X:

Is it a fair analysis to say the $570 is closer to gtx780 pricing than 780 ti pricing? Looks like it performs a lot closer to the 780ti than the 780.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

It highly depends on the games being tested. In that review, there were a few that NV won, with stock 780 performing near R290X (which we know its false over a wide selection of games), and a few that AMD won.

Lets not inflate the price higher than its officially going for, since many parts of the world DO NOT have the same experience as newegg.

Edit: Out of those games,

NV wins: AC3, C3, FC3, Metro (kinda even due to pricing).
AMD wins: Dirt Showdown, Hitman, MP3, Tomb Raider (due to pricing, Asus R290X matching 780 ti).

Why are you fudding? The only one it "Wins" in it Showdown.

And those are AMDs best games...

Price quoted was for North America, where it is currently inflated. I didn't say it won't be 500 Euros, I said it wouldn't be 570 dollars.

 

[Silverforce11]

What the heck? It beats the 780ti reference model in all those games I listed, even in TR, due to 44/56.73 vs 42/57.29.

For $570. Dollars are used in lots of places, not just Newegg.

You are expecting too damn much if you want a card thats much cheaper than custom 780ti to beat it consistently.

And to enlighten you, prices around the world don't match the scenario on Newegg.

GTX780 (NOT Ti)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php...3_1483&zenid=c54b84ad2a375d4edc87eaeb69ecc5c9

R290X
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php...3_1555&zenid=c54b84ad2a375d4edc87eaeb69ecc5c9

R290
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php...3_1575&zenid=c54b84ad2a375d4edc87eaeb69ecc5c9

It is like this for oceania and SE Asia.

ps. They may be AMD's best game, but the others, they are NV's best games too. AC3 and Crysis 3? Come on, green all over it. Which confirms my point about your general statement regarding 780 OC beating R290x.. its highly game dependent.

 

[Imouto]

Lets not inflate the price higher than its officially going for, since many parts of the world DO NOT have the same experience as newegg.

Cheapest reference R9 290 = 359€
Cheapest reference GTX 780 = 479€ (+33%)
Cheapest reference R9 290X = 499€
Cheapest reference GTX 780 Ti = 619€ (+24%)

Price difference in Europe.

 

[DiogoDX]

Guru3D review:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290x_directcuii_oc_review,1.html

 

[BallaTheFeared]

What the heck? It beats the 780ti reference model in all those games I listed, even in TR, due to 44/56.73 vs 42/57.29.

For $570. Dollars are used in lots of places, not just Newegg.

You are expecting too damn much if you want a card thats much cheaper than custom 780ti to beat it consistently.

Look what you quoted. I was talking about the 780 Ti GHz in my post, not the reference 780 Ti.

It doesn't matter if it's Newegg, TD, NCIX, prices are inflated everywhere in North America. $570 won't happen until the inflation stops.

$570 isn't cheap, not at all, and it sure isn't in a price bracket I'd associate with "price/perf" being a dominate factor in anyone's decision making unless they're trying to make pretend it's the $200 segment while ignoring the fact that it woefully fails in such a matrix compared to it.

 

[nurturedhate]

Lets definitely not take the newegg gouging as accurate of even US prices seeing as you can get 290x's from amazon for basically MSRP, $559.99 and free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-RADEON-100...ywords=r9+290x

We'll be able to find non-gouged custom 290x for a normal price

 

[wand3r3r]

Basically the 780 ti is barely "beating" the 290x aftermarket with a 5% 50MHz oc. It's pretty close in quite a few games.

 

[ShintaiDK]

What the heck? It beats the 780ti reference model in all those games I listed, even in TR, due to 44/56.73 vs 42/57.29.

For $570. Dollars are used in lots of places, not just Newegg.

You are expecting too damn much if you want a card thats much cheaper than custom 780ti to beat it consistently.

And to enlighten you, prices around the world don't match the scenario on Newegg.

GTX780 (NOT Ti)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php...3_1483&zenid=c54b84ad2a375d4edc87eaeb69ecc5c9

R290X
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php...3_1555&zenid=c54b84ad2a375d4edc87eaeb69ecc5c9

R290
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php...3_1575&zenid=c54b84ad2a375d4edc87eaeb69ecc5c9

It is like this for oceania and SE Asia.

ps. They may be AMD's best game, but the others, they are NV's best games too. AC3 and Crysis 3? Come on, green all over it. Which confirms my point about your general statement regarding 780 OC beating R290x.. its highly game dependent.

Basically the 780 ti is barely "beating" the 290x aftermarket with a 5% 50MHz oc. It's pretty close in quite a few games.

My are you both comparing custom 290X OC model to reference 780TI?

 

[Silverforce11]

Lets definitely not take the newegg gouging as accurate of even US prices seeing as you can get 290x's from amazon for basically MSRP, $559.99 and free shipping

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-RADEON-100...ywords=r9+290x

We'll be able to find non-gouged custom 290x for a normal price

And thats the point Balla is missing, there are actual RETAIL (not just etailers) shops where things are sold at MSRP. You know, like physically GO there and buy it rather than relying on Newegg-ish and eat the inflated $$.

I am not going to compare a $570 to a top custom 780 ti card. At $570 its only $70 more than MSRP 780s. Why do you feel its fair to compare to custom 780 ti that goes for a lot more? Even at these prices, the difference is significant, money is money. You feel suddenly $130 don't matter? Then why NV didn't price the 780ti at $1000 since its clearly faster than Titan? Really..

In my part of the world down here (as well as europe), the 780 is priced nearly the same as R290X.

 

[Silverforce11]

My are you comparing custom 290X to reference 780TI?

$570 to $699/750 is not a fair comparison to you? Duh.

Some people here seem to not value $$.