Customers in Indiana get gas for $.002/gal

[Vinfinite]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: trinketsummoner
how can it be stealing? They used their cc, the price displayed was the price they paid, do you think if they charged people $27 a gallon the company would give them thier money back?

oh hell no they wouldnt.

Sure they would, the public outrage would force them to. But when a business owner gets screwed by an innocent mistake... screw them!

thats the point. it would take public outrage. they wouldnt scan tape to find the people and offer them a refund. it would take a few papers reporting it but no way in the hell would they volentarly re-pay people.

Who knows if they would or wouldn't? Your attitude that business owners are all out to screw you kind of surprises me considering you used to be a business owner. Did you try to screw your customers? If you overcharged a customer for something, what would you have done?

well i can gurentee i didnt overcharge a costomer. we didnt have such sloppy work as this place did. this is how they make money how could they have put it at .002$ that is what amazes me.

not all business owners are this way but sadly the majority is. i am very doubltfull (of course i could be wrong) that they would have called these people and said oops we charged you 27$ a gallon.

so you've never made a mistake before? There are price mistakes online from huge corporations every now and then even. Nothing is fool proof, just because you're careful does not mean you're not going to screw up every now and then.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: trinketsummoner
how can it be stealing? They used their cc, the price displayed was the price they paid, do you think if they charged people $27 a gallon the company would give them thier money back?

oh hell no they wouldnt.

Sure they would, the public outrage would force them to. But when a business owner gets screwed by an innocent mistake... screw them!

thats the point. it would take public outrage. they wouldnt scan tape to find the people and offer them a refund. it would take a few papers reporting it but no way in the hell would they volentarly re-pay people.

Who knows if they would or wouldn't? Your attitude that business owners are all out to screw you kind of surprises me considering you used to be a business owner. Did you try to screw your customers? If you overcharged a customer for something, what would you have done?

well i can gurentee i didnt overcharge a costomer. we didnt have such sloppy work as this place did. this is how they make money how could they have put it at .002$ that is what amazes me.

not all business owners are this way but sadly the majority is. i am very doubltfull (of course i could be wrong) that they would have called these people and said oops we charged you 27$ a gallon.

Well unfortunately we'll never know. I don't see this working out in favor of the business owner, but it would be nice if he could get his money. It's really sad how greedy some people are and how willing they are to screw a business any chance they get. You see it all the time in hot deal forums (basically any deal that involves getting a clueless CSR).

 

[dirtboy]

I love how people are portraying the station owner to be the bad guy. I hope people get charged the correct price and I'm sure they will.

 

[Vinfinite]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
I love how people are portraying the station owner to be the bad guy. I hope people get charged the correct price and I'm sure they will.

I don't think anyone is the bad guy, people didn't go there expecting to exploit the station and pay .002, they came there expecting to pay what the advertised price was.

And the owner made a mistake, things happen, life goes on

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
If there is a typo made in a widely circulated ad then that company HAS to honor that price. I fail to see how it would be any different here.

I don't believe they do have to honor the price if it's a typo actually. Perhaps a lawyer could provide some insight into that.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
I love how people are portraying the station owner to be the bad guy. I hope people get charged the correct price and I'm sure they will.

nobody is portring him as a bad guy. maybe has some crappy workers but not a bad guy. i can't blame him for wanting his money i jus tdo not think he is going ot get any of it.

 

[Vinfinite]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
If there is a typo made in a widely circulated ad then that company HAS to honor that price. I fail to see how it would be any different here.

I don't believe they do have to honor the price if it's a typo actually. Perhaps a lawyer could provide some insight into that.

It doesn't matter if they want to honor it or not, they're going to HAVE to

the pump said .002, the consumer paid with CC authorizing it for .002/gal, no way in hell can the owner charge the cardholder anymore without authorization.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
If there is a typo made in a widely circulated ad then that company HAS to honor that price. I fail to see how it would be any different here.

I don't believe they do have to honor the price if it's a typo actually. Perhaps a lawyer could provide some insight into that.

most circulations have on teh bottom not responsible for price mistakes or printing errors or some such.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
If there is a typo made in a widely circulated ad then that company HAS to honor that price. I fail to see how it would be any different here.

I don't believe they do have to honor the price if it's a typo actually. Perhaps a lawyer could provide some insight into that.

Actually, most of the Sunday circulars I see (OM, CC, BB) have fine print disclaimers that say they aren't obligated to honor a lower price in the event of typos.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
If there is a typo made in a widely circulated ad then that company HAS to honor that price. I fail to see how it would be any different here.

I don't believe they do have to honor the price if it's a typo actually. Perhaps a lawyer could provide some insight into that.

Actually, most of the Sunday circulars I see (OM, CC, BB) have fine print disclaimers that say they aren't obligated to honor a lower price in the event of typos.

The problem here is that the lower price has already been honoured. Too late for a correction now.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ZombieRitual
If there is a typo made in a widely circulated ad then that company HAS to honor that price. I fail to see how it would be any different here.

I don't believe they do have to honor the price if it's a typo actually. Perhaps a lawyer could provide some insight into that.

Actually, most of the Sunday circulars I see (OM, CC, BB) have fine print disclaimers that say they aren't obligated to honor a lower price in the event of typos.

The problem here is that the lower price has already been honoured. Too late for a correction now.

Right, which is why I said I don't think the owner will end up getting his money.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc
not possible. bait and switch comes to mind as well as false advertisement as well as double billing. 1 2 3 you're out.

There is no bait and switch and no false advertisement, and it was a very obvious price mistake.

a posted price is absolute. with no accompanying asterisk beside the price to describe it as being "free of typografical errors" means the .02 stands.

No, it is not.

also, there's a valid argument for bait and switch. price paid was .02 and now, after the fact, they want to charge more, is simple bait and switch.

You don't seem to understand what a bait and switch is. For one, a key part of a bait and switch is that the customer is lured in with an unreasonable price. I highly doubt the signs by the road had the incorrect price, these people were lured in by a regular price and discovered the unreasonable price once they got to the pump.

yes, it was a very obvious mistake. doesn't make it any more legal.

how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: chambersc
how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

Yes, I realize the business will probably not get their money back. But not for the reasons you listed, because they really have nothing to do with this situation.

 

[Jzero]

In business, mistakes cost money. If he overcharged them, yes, there would be outrage and the lost business in addition to ending up having to refund the money. If he undercharged them, he's never going to get his money without outrage and lost business. No mistake, he'd have no problem.

The bottom line here is what I hear almost every day at my team meetings:
"Be careful: we simply can't afford to make any mistakes."

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc
how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

Yes, I realize the business will probably not get their money back. But not for the reasons you listed, because they really have nothing to do with this situation.

the business sets the price they charge consumers. so for what other reasons won't they get their money back? public backlash feeds into my argument.

 

[DaTT]

Where I live, there is a sticker on every pump that reads:

"If there is a dipute between the register and the pump, the price at the pump shall be deemed correct" in maybe not the same wording....

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc
how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

Yes, I realize the business will probably not get their money back. But not for the reasons you listed, because they really have nothing to do with this situation.

the business sets the price they charge consumers. so for what other reasons won't they get their money back? public backlash feeds into my argument.

They won't get their money back because they completed the transactions without catching the mistake.

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: NTB
Sounds about like that fiasco last summer when some genius figured out that he could charge the gas to his driver's license when paying at the pump. Word got out, and a whole bunch of people did it before the company wised up

Nate

how did this work

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc
how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

Yes, I realize the business will probably not get their money back. But not for the reasons you listed, because they really have nothing to do with this situation.

the business sets the price they charge consumers. so for what other reasons won't they get their money back? public backlash feeds into my argument.

They won't get their money back because they completed the transactions without catching the mistake.

well, technically there was no mistake in the transaction. the input price was x, the customer was charged x, transaction over. once again, you assume it was a mistake because it differs from the posted price.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
The owner can do recharge them with the correct amount of gas, keep in mind, the dealer of the gas station paid the gas w/ his or her own money, anything being pumped away with just only a price mistake is stealing. Taking advantage of a mistake is a bad plan.

no, it is not stealing, it is using another's mistake for your benefit at their expense, immoral, but in no way stealing, or illegal. if i buy something on ebay, and say mky bid was a typo, i am legally responsible to pay the amount i typed in, not what i meant. IN our legal system you don't get protection for making mistakes

That's the same meaning as stealing, wtf are you talking about. It's like going into an open bank vault and grabbing the money without anyone knowing about it.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc
how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

Yes, I realize the business will probably not get their money back. But not for the reasons you listed, because they really have nothing to do with this situation.

the business sets the price they charge consumers. so for what other reasons won't they get their money back? public backlash feeds into my argument.

They won't get their money back because they completed the transactions without catching the mistake.

well, technically there was no mistake in the transaction. the input price was x, the customer was charged x, transaction over. once again, you assume it was a mistake because it differs from the posted price.

Huh? The price was obviously a mistake. Gas is somewhat unique as a product so it's difficult to see the distinction I'm making. If a customer brought a candy bar to the register and it was marked $.05, at that point the store could catch the mistake and say it costs $.75. Pay $.75 or you don't get the candy bar. If they sold the person the candy bar for $.05 they couldn't go back and charge them the extra $.70 afterwards. That's why the gas station probably won't get their money back. Not because of some so-called bait and switch or false advertisement, but because the transaction ended.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chambersc
how they arrived at the end price is irrelevant. the fact is that they thought they were paying x amount for gas. the fact that someone now wants to charge y once they are there is the issue. "reasonable" is just personally qualifying the amount of money. business is emotionless.

Yes, I realize the business will probably not get their money back. But not for the reasons you listed, because they really have nothing to do with this situation.

the business sets the price they charge consumers. so for what other reasons won't they get their money back? public backlash feeds into my argument.

They won't get their money back because they completed the transactions without catching the mistake.

well, technically there was no mistake in the transaction. the input price was x, the customer was charged x, transaction over. once again, you assume it was a mistake because it differs from the posted price.

Huh? The price was obviously a mistake. Gas is somewhat unique as a product so it's difficult to see the distinction I'm making. If a customer brought a candy bar to the register and it was marked $.05, at that point the store could catch the mistake and say it costs $.75. Pay $.75 or you don't get the candy bar. If they sold the person the candy bar for $.05 they couldn't go back and charge them the extra $.70 afterwards. That's why the gas station probably won't get their money back. Not because of some so-called bait and switch or false advertisement, but because the transaction ended.

correct but there is an implicit agreement since a) the price at the pump is manually set by the attendents inside and b) you can pay outside, via CC, without encountering human interaction. thus, when you pay at the pump, its akin to you paying at the register. the sell price is thusly final at the pump and no mistake is occurred for premises a and b.

 

[SampSon]

The stations have no choice but to eat the cost.

 

[jjyiz28]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
The owner can do recharge them with the correct amount of gas, keep in mind, the dealer of the gas station paid the gas w/ his or her own money, anything being pumped away with just only a price mistake is stealing. Taking advantage of a mistake is a bad plan.

no, it is not stealing, it is using another's mistake for your benefit at their expense, immoral, but in no way stealing, or illegal. if i buy something on ebay, and say mky bid was a typo, i am legally responsible to pay the amount i typed in, not what i meant. IN our legal system you don't get protection for making mistakes

That's the same meaning as stealing, wtf are you talking about. It's like going into an open bank vault and grabbing the money without anyone knowing about it.

thats one of the most ignorant statement i've heard in my life.

steal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stl)
v. stole, (stl) sto·len, (stln) steal·ing, steals
v. tr.
To take (the property of another) without right or permission

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer

Originally posted by: Powermoloch
The owner can do recharge them with the correct amount of gas, keep in mind, the dealer of the gas station paid the gas w/ his or her own money, anything being pumped away with just only a price mistake is stealing. Taking advantage of a mistake is a bad plan.

no, it is not stealing, it is using another's mistake for your benefit at their expense, immoral, but in no way stealing, or illegal. if i buy something on ebay, and say mky bid was a typo, i am legally responsible to pay the amount i typed in, not what i meant. IN our legal system you don't get protection for making mistakes

That's the same meaning as stealing, wtf are you talking about. It's like going into an open bank vault and grabbing the money without anyone knowing about it.

thats one of the most ignorant statement i've heard in my life.

steal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (stl)
v. stole, (stl) sto·len, (stln) steal·ing, steals
v. tr.
To take (the property of another) without right or permission

seriously.