Cyanogenmod

paul878

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Can someone tell me what are the advantage and feature of Cyanogenmod, I have an Nexus 4.
 

paperwastage

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it gives you more features that AOSP/"Google ROM" doesn't have

for example, the quick tiles, AOSP/"Google ROM" isn't very customizable... same for status bar (can't choose Battery %, icon etc)

but frankly, with Xposed framework + GravityBox (on my Nexus 5 AOSP 4.4.1), I get most of the CM features (that I use) already.... add in other stuff like Floating Notifications+XHaloFloatingWindow-> these replicate Halo in a stock AOSP rom


there are other "popular" custom roms too:
ParanoidAndroid -> Halo, per app customization for dpi/layout
 
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it gives you more features that AOSP doesn't have

for example, the quick tiles, AOSP isn't very customizable... same for status bar (can't choose Battery %, icon etc)

but frankly, with Xposed framework + GravityBox (on my Nexus 5 AOSP 4.4.1), I get most of the CM features (that I use) already.... add in other stuff like Floating Notifications+XHaloFloatingWindow-> these replicate Halo in a stock AOSP rom
The last part I kinda disagree. GravityBox gives you some features but it's not exactly the same. Floating Notifications +XHalo I have on my Nexus 10. It's nothing like the real Halo. It just doesn't feel as polished, and it's too easy to accidentally dismiss the XHalo notifications or to accidentally move the halo notification icon.
 

Graze

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Can someone tell me what are the advantage and feature of Cyanogenmod, I have an Nexus 4.

I think you may will be able to patch the Nexus 4 to use USB OTG with a powered cable. Of course this applies to any after market deodexed rom.

I myself see no other reason for it on my Nexus 4.
 

paperwastage

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The last part I kinda disagree. GravityBox gives you some features but it's not exactly the same. Floating Notifications +XHalo I have on my Nexus 10. It's nothing like the real Halo. It just doesn't feel as polished, and it's too easy to accidentally dismiss the XHalo notifications or to accidentally move the halo notification icon.

yeah, I agree it's not as polished... but it works for basically any rom, don't have to flash a specific rom with halo


and my nexus 5, there's only a few roms with Halo/Multi-window features included... might as well stick with stock rom and wait a few more weeks for stuff to be more stable and see what CM11, AOSPA, Omni have to offer
 

lopri

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What is this halo thing that you guys are talking about?

And it looks like Cyanogenmod installer disappeared from the Play store?
 
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What is this halo thing that you guys are talking about?

And it looks like Cyanogenmod installer disappeared from the Play store?
HALO is a Paranoid Android feature. The past 2 months saw a lot of CM + Halo hybrids circulating around. I personally like HALO a lot and thought that it was one of PA's best features.

Here's a video showing HALO 2.0: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdO9ZMwGHuw

Not sure if it helps, but here's the original HALO from earlier this summer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5WljHcOyXs)... just in case they didn't cover all the basics in 2.0
 

baydude

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What is this halo thing that you guys are talking about?

And it looks like Cyanogenmod installer disappeared from the Play store?

Google removed it claiming installing custom ROMs would void phone warranty.
 
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This Halo things seems mostly useless to me.
It's a gimmick, and I don't think it adds TOO much more to the ROM, but it's nice to not have to switch out of my current app and fear losing settings or whatever just in case Android decides to close apps in the background.

However, it's less gimmicky than PIE controls IMO which takes much longer to bring out the menu and to hit the home button than it does for me to just click on the software home keys.... but I guess some really value their screen real estate.
 

lopri

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That is indeed a little gimmicky. It does make sense in a full-screen app but I cannot imagine it being useful on home screen. Though I've started seeing more apps that lets you choose corners or side edges as a touch-sensitive area ('hot' corners) for multi-tasking purposes. Action Launcher does that quite well.

Google removed it claiming installing custom ROMs would void phone warranty.

Upon a bit of reading, the official stance of Google (from the EULA/ToS/whateveritscalled) is that anything downloaded/installed from the Play store should also be uninstallable or be able to reverse-the-course by the user's choice. Whether Cyanogenmod can meet that requirement in the future will be interesting to look for. FYI there are many apps that topped the charts and voided warranties in Play store.
 

Tom

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As a bystander..I don't know what the OP got out of this discussion so far, but to me its a bunch of mumbo jumbo references to things with no explanation what the point of them is ?

With the exception of maybe allowing the use of an external storage device.
 

zerogear

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As a bystander..I don't know what the OP got out of this discussion so far, but to me its a bunch of mumbo jumbo references to things with no explanation what the point of them is ?

With the exception of maybe allowing the use of an external storage device.

I think thread is to provide ideas then you start Googling the terms if you want more information.
 

alangrift

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As a bystander..I don't know what the OP got out of this discussion so far, but to me its a bunch of mumbo jumbo references to things with no explanation what the point of them is ?

With the exception of maybe allowing the use of an external storage device.

You probably need to google the terms, I wouldn't start flashing custom rom's without knowing about the different terms and procedures beforehand. You don't want to brick your phone, although most bricks are recoverable from if ADB still works.
 

poofyhairguy

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As a bystander..I don't know what the OP got out of this discussion so far, but to me its a bunch of mumbo jumbo references to things with no explanation what the point of them is ?

Yup, that is CM for you....
 

Tom

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I think thread is to provide ideas then you start Googling the terms if you want more information.

Uh no that's not right. Ideally a forum is to get useful information from actual people with actual experience or opinions.

Google can be useful for finding a forum that is actually useful, in fact its possible to find THIS forum on Google, even when it's not that useful.

For example. "Floating Icons". Somebody in this thread mentions it, but says nothing about what it's for and what the point of it is.

Now see, I could Google it, and probably find a forum where people actually expound on those questions. However, that doesn't mean THIS forum is as useful as it could be.

Particularly in a topic where the OP is asking for general guidance about a subject and instead get's a bunch of random references with no discussion at all about what the point of most of it is.
 

paperwastage

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Particularly in a topic where the OP is asking for general guidance about a subject and instead get's a bunch of random references with no discussion at all about what the point of most of it is.

well, that is the same problem that people @ xda have:

"What is the best ROM?"
"What is the difference b/w CM and AOSPA?"

the answer that you'll get would be "Flash each one, try it out and see"


there's just too much differences to be listed out... I (along with other people) mention some names/features... either you google them, or post asking what they are

or you'll just get paragraphs of texts describing each feature and how it's useful.. then people get turned off reading a wall of text
 

alangrift

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Just use PAC-man ROM and it has it all. Cyanogenmod + AOKP + PA

Bad battery life though, from my experience. It also is more buggy than the others by themselves. Although it is a great idea. I was on there until I moved to Kit Kat. Most of the roms don't have all the former features that we available on Kit Kat yet.
 
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Personally I don't think ROMs in general have that much effect on battery life unless you enable something specifically that drains battery (i.e. setting CM's cLock widget to update every 15 minutes). PAC ROM has everything but it's very unpolished. There's a lot of integration challenges when you take 3 big AOSP-based ROMs and merge all the features together. Which ROM's implementation takes precedence? Maybe CM's nav bar modifications make more sense, or AOKP's do, but how do you merge features in? Or do you just pick one and lose some features from the others? Maybe it's because I prefer CM overall, but it's just too mashed together and unprofessional for me to use PAC. The intention is good, but I prefer having a base ROM and then features sprinkled in like CM + HALO or something.

well, that is the same problem that people @ xda have:

"What is the best ROM?"
"What is the difference b/w CM and AOSPA?"

the answer that you'll get would be "Flash each one, try it out and see"


there's just too much differences to be listed out... I (along with other people) mention some names/features... either you google them, or post asking what they are

or you'll just get paragraphs of texts describing each feature and how it's useful.. then people get turned off reading a wall of text

Infographics might help.

SlimBean

OmniROM

Carbon

Paranoid Android

AOKP

CM 10.2

 

sweenish

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I think custom ROMs are only worth it if a specific, exclusive feature really lines up with what you want. Or they are a life-saver if your phone was abandoned by your OEM.

Otherwise, Xposed modules are a great way to get customizations without compromising the stability of your phone.

Or, just hunting for the right alternative apps that don't require root. The things that are possible without root keep taking strides to eliminating the need for root (for me) altogether.

My advice for an N4 would be to first try alternative apps, gain root if you need more control and try some Xposed modules, and then try ROMs if you are still not satisfied.
 

poofyhairguy

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I think custom ROMs are only worth it if a specific, exclusive feature really lines up with what you want. Or they are a life-saver if your phone was abandoned by your OEM.

Otherwise, Xposed modules are a great way to get customizations without compromising the stability of your phone.

I so agree. I used to want every custom ROM with every cool feature I can get.

Now I just want core features (phone, camera, connection, etc.) to work always in a pinch.
 

T_Yamamoto

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I so agree. I used to want every custom ROM with every cool feature I can get.

Now I just want core features (phone, camera, connection, etc.) to work always in a pinch.
Since the Gnex with 4.4 is pretty terrible (IMHO, lots of lag with input controls and what not), I'm sticking with my 4.3 CM10.2, HOWEVER, fitnugly seemed to have abandoned his Toro rom for jellybro.
 

scoob8000

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IMHO, CM isn't what is used to be. There are so many devs, working on so many different devices. It was a different creature when Steve himself had a G1 and was developing for it.

There are a lot of great ROMs out there, it all depends on what you are looking for.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4

Check out the devlopment sections and read the threads on the different ROMs.
 

shabby

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Bad battery life though, from my experience. It also is more buggy than the others by themselves. Although it is a great idea. I was on there until I moved to Kit Kat. Most of the roms don't have all the former features that we available on Kit Kat yet.

Try xposed framework + gravity box and xblast tools module, it pretty much has all of the features that previous jellybean roms had. Then when an ota update zip is available you just sideload it, re-root and reinstall xposed and all your features are back.
 
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