CyberRebate Scam!!!

Jimbon

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In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission's regulations require consumers to dispute bad credit card charges within 60 days (nine weeks) of billing. Other countries' laws vary. If a problem with the rebate becomes apparent 14 weeks after the order, therefore, consumers in the United States have no right to reverse the charges.

In theory, CyberRebate earns profits when people who received rebate checks go back to the Web site and buy other products at higher prices. But also consider the following:

? After receiving a product they?ve paid for, many people will never return to the Web site to fill out the rebate forms.

? If a rebate check never arrives after 14 weeks, some people will forget about it rather than pursuing a complaint, even for amounts of $100 or more.

In a telephone interview, CyberRebate CEO Joel Granick said about the BBB report, "I can't tell you we haven't had challenges along the way." He added, "What we've done at CyberRebate is to take every complaint very seriously."

Granick said that in the rebate industry as a whole, consumers fail to submit rebate forms 90 percent of the time. But he said only about 5 percent of CyberRebate's customers don't submit the forms.

If that's true, it represents a huge profit margin on products that are priced at several times the normal retail rate. My advice? Don't whip out your credit card in hopes that you might get a rebate check three and a half months later.

 

ignorus

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Also, you should quote the source of that article so that you don't get sued for infringement.
 

Souka

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*yawn*

Besides, it clearly states on their site something like...if we don't recieve the rebate form, just contact us with the order info and we will process your rebate.

Simple eh?

You can also watch your rebate status online....nice.


ok....LOCK THE THREAD NOW!
 

Hgabriel

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Umm, this is no scam. Rebates have been handled like this for years. The manufacturer gets your full $200. They hold onto your $50 rebate for two months to collect any interest on it. After the 2 months they cut a check. 1 month later the check arrives and you get your item for $150. Meanwhile the manufacturer has sit on your $50 for three months collecting interest. Compound your $50 with the 100,000 other rebates and you have quite a pile of money.

Interesting way of generating capital isn't it.
 

avhokie

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This is why I have NEVER ordered from them. Worst part is that if they go bankrupt, you might be stuck with a $400 barbie cash register!
 

ignorus

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In the article, he stated that 5% dont submit their forms. While it does equal great profit for CyberRebate, it is not their fault that the consumers don't follow through with the rebate process. If you want something for free, you have to do a little work (i.e. mail in the rebate form). If he is using that as a basis for his argument to not "hope for a check 3-4 months later", he is speaking to those that are too lazy, dumb, and/or rich to bother filling out the rebate forms and mail it out.

[edit]Actually I should have just edited my post above to add this comment -- it was almost at the top still anyways so I hope you will forgive me.
 

Punkie

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Oh what the heck...

Hgabriel let's look at your "argument"

1. This thread is about Cyberrebate, not manufacturers rebates, but let's assume it is.

2. The manufacturer does not get the entire amount, the retailer, wholsaler and possibly a jobber get a good chunk of the retail price.

3. If they invest your $50 (assume that comes from the sales income) for three months at 12% annual return (a very good return) they'll make $1.50 from your money, before taxes.

4. It costs about $3.75 for a business to cut a check.

5. It costs them about 34 cents to mail you the check.

6. It takes manpower to process your rebate.

"Interesting way of generating capital isn't it"? yup.

 

NotAClue

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I can tell you this... nothing is free without a little bit of work. Most of the items I donated to Merryville Academy, some I kept, some I gave as presents. Besides helping disadvantaged children, this prvides a tax write-off for me. They have paid out over $70 million in rebates. They must be making money somewhere... careful manipulation of financial factors can allow for some serious write-offs also. The one thing that truly sucks is the rebate process... filling out those forms and/or gift vouchers(a copy of UPC code OK) is a royal pain in the ---. I have purchased well over $15k in products from them and I am quite sure that I have spent a full 40 hour work week in preparing paperwork for the rebates. But, all in all, it went for a good cause... donations to needy kids. Some of their products are junk and some are not>> i.e. a make-up compact for $29.95(w/full rebate of course) was probably worth a dollar at best. I did recently buy myself a Jensen JMC-600 wall mountable cd/cassette/alarm clock system for $962.99-$962.99=0. Sounds nuts, but I used a promo 0% cc. Bottomline... buy products you know of, use ebates.com, and get a few 0% credit cards. That way you only lose your time.
 

Hgabriel

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1) Cyberrebate doesn't cut the checks

2) Cyberrebate doesn't mail the checks

3) They jack the prices up so they make the same amount that the wholesaler takes
 

Punkie

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What the ^%$^U are you talking about? Cyberrebates?

a. Yes they do cut the check, at least it's drawn on their account.

b. Yes they do mail them out, or at least the envelope has their return adddress.

c. Okay, whatever.

NotAClue: Ditto, donate some, give some away, keep some. I saw that wall cd but when I went back to order it, it was no more. Is it any good? Thanks for the model #, I'll check it out. They take thing off and re-add them all the time.
 

Punkie

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Damn, that looks like a pretty nice system for the kitchen! Retails for about $150.

Hope they offer it again, I'll get a couple (seperate addy & cc).

NotAClue, enable your PM! Or pm me.
 

alyosha

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Punkie, how about situation where the manufacturer needs a loan to expnad its manufacturing capacity for a example. Instead of issuing a bond and paying interest (some times high interest because of junk rating of a bond) they could just employ this rebate technique, it does pay.
 
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