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SinMen

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Originally posted by: luv2chill
It's already been established that this isn't a scam.
Who established that this is not a scam? You? Even though I have several accounts with them myself, I fear more and more that this is a scam. It's now Monday EST. Let's see what kind of sales Shawn can come up with.
It's also interesting to see so many people said that don't mind if they are only scammed for only a few bucks.
 

Devistater

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Originally posted by: SinMen
Originally posted by: luv2chill
It's already been established that this isn't a scam.
Who established that this is not a scam? You? Even though I have several accounts with them myself, I fear more and more that this is a scam. It's now Monday EST. Let's see what kind of sales Shawn can come up with.
It's also interesting to see so many people said that don't mind if they are only scammed for only a few bucks.

Monday? The sales are going to END not continue. Dunno if it will be today, but he's said that he's raising prices after this sale and going to monthly. (for all new customers, current ones keep same prices).
 

luv2chill

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Originally posted by: SinMen
Originally posted by: luv2chill
It's already been established that this isn't a scam.
Who established that this is not a scam? You?
Me, and everyone else who has had their hosting accounts set up. I paid money (a whopping $8) for a year's worth of hosting. My hosting was set up AS PROMISED. It is currently working AS PROMISED. The people at cyberwings obviously spent a LOT of money procuring bandwidth, purchasing servers and networking equipment. Someone who is just out to swindle a bunch of people would not be decreasing their profit margin immensely with costs such as these.

If it's a scam, how do you explain the people who have had their sites hosted there for months? Bandwidth costs money every month. Do you really think this company is just "building up to" a scam, all the while expending money every month for their bandwidth bills? Then, one day they'll just pull the plug, liquidate the equipment, and jet off to the Bahamas?

Scams just don't work this way. How can you account for the satisfied customers who have been with cyberwings a long time? How do you account for the majority of people who have had their hosting set up and problems resolved within a timely manner? The vast majority of scams are "here today/gone tomorrow" type operations. Tell me, if you were interested in scamming people, would you:

A. Spend enormous sums of money on equipment and bandwidth (not only fixed costs, but recurring monthly costs)?
B. Operate this "business" for a period of at least a year (and counting)?
C. Actually deliver the services people paid you money for?

All three of the above have actually been done by cyberwings. Scammers don't prey on smart people (if you know how to set up web hosting, face it--you're smart). No, they prey on people who don't do their homework--people who fall for a pitch without checking it out first. Scammers don't waste time extorting a few dollars each from 5,000 intelligent people... they extort larger sums of money from a smaller pool of simpletons. And they sure as hell don't actually DELIVER the services they promise--it's bad scammer etiquette.

If Shawn is guilty of anything it's pricing his services too low. A company like Microsoft has the means (i.e. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) to take a loss repeatedly on a particular business segment to gain market share (internet explorer is a perfect example). A small startup can try such a tactic but it very rarely succeeds. Cash flow becomes the biggest problem.

But that doesn't mean it's a scam. I mean, geez. Do you think that all of the .com etailers were scammers too? They offered you products at insanely low prices. Hopefully you were able to take them up on their offers. You received the products at the prices they quoted. They were unable to make money from offering such insanely low prices, and when they raised their prices to stay afloat, you stopped patronizing them and sought out the new lowest prices. Thus, the vast majority failed. This same situation may indeed befall cyberwings. I certainly hope not, but there is very little loyalty in the internet marketplace. It's too easy to just "take your business elsewhere".

If cyberwings fails it's not a scam--it's a bad business model. There's a huge difference. You get what you frigging pay for--it's a fundamental law with very few exceptions. And going around yelling "scam" when there is absolutely zero proof of such is called libel/slander (depending on the medium).

l2c

 

straubs

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Originally posted by: zervun
I'm getting tired of these threads. Every time cyberwings is mentioned we get some boob that hasn't gotten his account setup because he hasn't done the simple thing of going to the cyberwings chat that you can access via the web. If you havn't figured out by now that emailing them is not the proper way to get support from them, but going to the chat room, then you don't read very well. If you have accounts that need attention go to the chat room, they will halp you right away.

Flamers go sit somewhere else, I have very good service with Cyberwings as many others do. If you need support go to their chatroom and stop flaming these thread when you havn't even tried the #1 way to get support from them.


Preach on brother.

If you don't get a response by email, then DON'T EMAIL ANYMORE!!!! PICK ANOTHER OPTION ALREADY! What is your excuse for not doing this?
Some guy already posted their helpdesk website, which I've used a few times and have ALWAYS received a response within 24 HOURS.
The chatroom can give INSTANT responses. I've seen it when I've been in there!

What the he11 is anyone's excuse if they can't freakin go to the chatroom or the helpdesk and fill out a ticket? Good god! If you can't do that you probably shouldn't be allowed to have your own web site anyway! :|

I've been hosted there (TheTwistinside) for nearly 5 months now. My uptime for the last month has been 99.73%.
Gee, some scam... :disgust:
 

XFreebie

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cyberrebates was not a scam at first. it had many satisfied customers for the first two years of its existence. therefore cyberrebates must be a very legitimate company

anyway, i think that those initial accounts ($3.90 a year) were sold to us at a loss so that we would spread the good word while they finally figure out how much they should charge to remain profitable. ur forgetting that all other hosting companies charge more in a month than they charged in year, and that must make u think "hmm i bet those other companies are reaping in 12x times the profits then"

why would a company be charging more in a month than shanw charges in a year, because it costs a lot of money to be a web host. albeit shawn probably doesnt have fancy data tape back up systems or even RAID servers, but if Intel and Exodus couldnt pull it off, can this kid by charging far far less? Intel took a $100million charge while the other company... doesnt exist anymore (enron style).

unless shawn is running the company from a few servers out of his garage and relative working for him, otherwise it will not be cheap.

however cyberwings overall is a win-win situation because even if they dont pan out 6 months from now, ur only out of ur lunch money, unlike cyberrebates which gives u free-lunch after rebate but charges $200 bux for lunch... and u ate the UPC
 

SinMen

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Originally posted by: luv2chill
Me, and everyone else who has had their hosting accounts set up. If it's a scam, how do you explain the people who have had their sites hosted there for months? If cyberwings fails it's not a scam--it's a bad business model.
Don't count me as part of your EVERYONE. They hosted my account for a couple months now, but I don't have faith in them any more. Why not? Because of all those sales. And what a coincidence that the very famous internet scam also started with Cyber - Cyberrabates. Whether or not it is a scam depends on Shawn's intention. If he truely wants to gain market share and fails, taht's a bad business model. But if he's just trying to get your money from all these sales and lifetime membership and run, that's scam. You might only loss 8 bucks, but someone listens to you and buy a dedicated serverfrom them will loss 1400.00 That's why I leave my sites with them but not recommend anyone to try them.
You must be one of those in this forum that insisted Cyberrebates was a legit business a year ago.

 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: luv2chill
IHYLN,

<AHEM>

With the time it's taking you to type out all of these replies to people you could have downloaded mIRC, connected to the cyberwings chat server, posted your concerns to Shawn, and had them resolved by now. It does you absolutely NO GOOD (or anyone else for that matter) to whine in this thread. If you don't care about your money then just shut the fvck up. If you do care about your money, go into the chat room and demand something be done. Seriously, you look really foolish crying about it in here when none of us have the capability to do anything about it. It's already been established that this isn't a scam. I signed up for two accounts three days ago and they are already up and running. I'm not the only one. If you want something to be done, take the steps necessary for that to happen. If not, shut your god damn pie hole already.

l2c




right on brotha'!
 

IHYLN

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luv2c

Your idiocy astounds me. People in this thread fail to see the gist of the problems time and time again. I do care about the money I spent on them but the one thing I DON'T have is the time to sit in a fvcking IRC chatroom coddling them along to get me up and running. If I must resort to idling in an IRC channel, calling them, and emailing them every few days, then I don't know what to tell you except that their service sucks. WAIT! I've been doing that but you fanboys defend some faceless company as if it were your mother.

Where do you guys get your education from? Has everyone's idea of 'service' gone down the sh1tter? How would this be any different than some guy in the FT/FS forum doing the very same thing, people would be wary!

[edit: I had to read your post over again but again, I must point out your utter lack of intelligence and assimilating information IE: READING] I posted that the company was crappy and that my service hasn't been working despite the steps I took that are inarguably normal. I did not come crying to YOU or anyone else for help. If you retards cannot accept such information as an opinion on the service or anything else, stop reading the forums because you don't belong here]
 

RobsTV

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Signed up last Thursday for double everything $8 plan.
Was up and running Saturday. No problems at all. Totally painless.

At there very least, these cheap plans enable some to play around with web space and pages,
who otherwise would not want to invest in traditional, more expensive hosting plans.

Combine this with a $9.95 Domain name, and for under $15 or $20 anyone can get "started".
 

Boyangel

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Originally posted by: IHYLN
luv2c

Your idiocy astounds me. People in this thread fail to see the gist of the problems time and time again. I do care about the money I spent on them but the one thing I DON'T have is the time to sit in a fvcking IRC chatroom coddling them along to get me up and running. If I must resort to idling in an IRC channel, calling them, and emailing them every few days, then I don't know what to tell you except that their service sucks. WAIT! I've been doing that but you fanboys defend some faceless company as if it were your mother.

Where do you guys get your education from? Has everyone's idea of 'service' gone down the sh1tter? How would this be any different than some guy in the FT/FS forum doing the very same thing, people would be wary!

[edit: I had to read your post over again but again, I must point out your utter lack of intelligence and assimilating information IE: READING] I posted that the company was crappy and that my service hasn't been working despite the steps I took that are inarguably normal. I did not come crying to YOU or anyone else for help. If you retards cannot accept such information as an opinion on the service or anything else, stop reading the forums because you don't belong here]

Right on.....I agreed %100.
ROTFALMAO
Stupid is stupid does
 

KeyzerSoze

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I signed up for a couple of the $3 hosting packages a while back. Never gave them any domain info at that time. I just filled out the setup for early last week and I got the setup email at the end of the week. Pretty decent turnaround to me. I don't know what most of you are complaining about...everything working fine here.
 

Rooster286

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Been 3 months for me, and I have 0 complaints. I don't know about everyone else, but when I pay 3.90 a year for something I'd usually pay 50.00+ I don't expect the best customer service ever. Oddly enough, I've had great CS for the most part from them, even though I basically expected nothing.

Perhaps IHYLN is cranky, or part of a rival company?

It seems like he is doing more flaming that problem resolution. Join the IRC chat...you don't even need mirc, just use the java client on their website...that Shawn guy(owner) is usually idling in there most of the day/night

*oh any btw IHYLN.....if you want reliability...why did you sign up for an uber cheap plan like this? IMO, you really need to stop whining and calling people names....it's not helping convince anyone, thats for damn sure*
 

luv2chill

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Originally posted by: IHYLN
luv2c

Your idiocy astounds me. People in this thread fail to see the gist of the problems time and time again. I do care about the money I spent on them but the one thing I DON'T have is the time to sit in a fvcking IRC chatroom coddling them along to get me up and running. If I must resort to idling in an IRC channel, calling them, and emailing them every few days, then I don't know what to tell you except that their service sucks. WAIT! I've been doing that but you fanboys defend some faceless company as if it were your mother.

Where do you guys get your education from? Has everyone's idea of 'service' gone down the sh1tter? How would this be any different than some guy in the FT/FS forum doing the very same thing, people would be wary!

[edit: I had to read your post over again but again, I must point out your utter lack of intelligence and assimilating information IE: READING] I posted that the company was crappy and that my service hasn't been working despite the steps I took that are inarguably normal. I did not come crying to YOU or anyone else for help. If you retards cannot accept such information as an opinion on the service or anything else, stop reading the forums because you don't belong here]
Whatever... It's absolutely hilarious to me that you sit here saying that you don't have(and I quote) "time to sit in a fvcking IRC chatroom". Yet it seems to me that you are making time to repeatedly post in this thread bashing the company and defending yourself (hello?? ever heard of priorities?). You say you care about the money you spent, but then again you certainly aren't showing that you care. People have tried time and time again to give you suggestions as to how to resolve your problem, yet you've failed to do anything constructive about it. If you don't have the time nor the willingness then that's YOUR problem. But it certainly seems like you have a lot of time on your hands if you're wasting it in here.

How do you account for everyone else who has used the helpdesk system and gotten their problems fixed? How do you account for the heaps upon heaps of satisfied customers posting in these threads? Truth is, you can't. You're an outlier--not the norm.

And what's this about my idea of service being in the shi[/b]tter? Funny... it seems to me that I have received ABSOLUTELY SUPERB service (2-day setup turnaround), even if I had paid 10 times what I did pay. But I've already stated what I did pay--$8 per year for two accounts. For one account that comes out to 33 fvcking cents a month. For that amount cyberwings could have taken a month to set up my account... but they didn't--they took two days. In my eyes that's frigging amazing.

This is looking more and more like your personal vendetta against cyberwings. You've obviously zero interest in actually solving YOUR problem and would rather waste your "valuable" time bad-mouthing the company rather than actually doing something about it. In fact, I highly doubt you even signed up for hosting with cyberwings. Tell you what... how about I fill out that help desk ticket for you, seeing as you don't have the time. Just PM me with your name and domain name and I'll go fill out the help desk ticket for you. It will take me all of about 10 seconds, but I do have the time to spare so I'd be willing to waste ten seconds of my valuable time to do that for you so you can get your hosting and shut your mouth.

l2c
 

luv2chill

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Originally posted by: IHYLN
you would do that for me? You are so sweet!
Yep! But funny, I haven't received a PM from you yet with your info... Hmmmm... maybe it's because you made the whole thing up.

I really am a nice guy. But when my BS detector goes off I'm on autopilot.

<beepbeepbeepbeepbeep>

l2c

 

JAG84

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I really don't see what this debate is about. It all comes down to ONE SIMPLE CHOICE: If you want to pay more money, do it. Theres no reason to call this a scam just because it's so cheap.

I have a friend that runs a gaming league with 2,500+ members. The way the league runs: you play a game - you have to report it. With that many members reporting games and checking stats 24/7 you can see the site has high demand. If the server goes down for more than 20mins he gets flooded with emails. He's been with cyberwings since November and has saved 90% compared to his old host - I haven't heard him say one bad thing about them.


Myself, I signed up on the 6-19-02. Bought a domain and a hosting package - 18 bucks a year. All I need is someplace to work on my PHP & MySQL skills. The account is now set up 6-24-02, and I love it.
 

dcdomain

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Cyberwings... loving them. =]

You guys with the bad experience, I'm thankful I'm not you, but quit your whining already. Go pay your $50 a year or whatever for some better service. A lot of us are doing fine with the company thank you very much.
 

slycat

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enuff about them already...their once a week sale is getting old real fast..
each week they say "next week prices are going back up" but when it comes round, they
say its "next week"...what does that tell you?
 

straubs

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the one thing I DON'T have is the time to sit in a fvcking IRC chatroom coddling them along to get me up and running. If I must resort to idling in an IRC channel, calling them, and emailing them every few days, then I don't know what to tell you except that their service sucks.


So you don't have time to enter a helpdesk ticket then either, huh?
 
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