Cyclone claims 22,000 lives in Myanmar/Burma

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shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: BladeVenom
The US, which released an immediate funding package of $250,000 (£127,000) to be channelled through the UN, said that Burmese authorities had refused permission for an American disaster assistance response team to enter.

Nothing more really needs to be said about their government.

And what about the US refusing international aid after Katrina?
Aside from Canadians who the fuck ever offers to help us with natural disasters?
The only time we get help is when its in someone elses best political interest.


Sorry. Didnt mean to derail. The 22,000 is a serious situation.
 

Farang

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Jul 7, 2003
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I'm a bit disappointed in the news media for relying on the tolls provided by state radio and using them without any mention that the government of Myanmar cannot be trusted, at all, even in things it seemingly as no reason to lie about. With that said I was frightened by the U.S. analyst's estimate, as I'd hoped the junta was overestimating the toll in order to get more aid.

Pray for these people.. I have met many Burmese refugees, and they are some of the kindest, most hardworking people I've ever met. I know some of them in Bangkok have no way of getting in contact with their families, and won't for the foreseeable future, so just imagine if this sort of thing happened in the state next to you and your family was living there and you basically just had to calculate the odds they were dead and somehow deal with that.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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The fucking junta is still not letting aid worker in and they have been hoarding the supply. I say just violate their airspace and airdrop right into the disaster zone.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Isn't it Myanmar now?

Sad either way of course.

KT

just because the junta wants it so does not make it so.
 
Aug 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Well, the government of Myanmar won't let aid workers in...I say fuck'em, let'em rot.

Seriously... the outside world just wants to send food, water and other basic necessities; not guns and metal to help the poor schmucks overthrow their government.

Back when there was an earthquake in Pakistan, there was a dire need for helicopters to fly in aid to remote areas. Even with outside help, the number of helicopters just wasn't enough. India could have easily doubled or trebled that number, but Pakistan refused to accept any helicopter that was run by an Indian crew. India refused to let Pakistani crews run Indian helicopters.

I hate it when governments continue to fuck around while the common man is dying.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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tbqhwy.com
Originally posted by: purbeast0
on the UK Sun website they are saying the death toll could reach 500k

thats 2x the deaths from the tsunami, i highly doubt itll get anywhere close to that
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200..._re_as/myanmar_cyclone

Myanmar seizes UN aid supplies, 'not ready' to let in US

YANGON, Myanmar - Myanmar's military leaders seized aid shipments headed for cyclone survivors and told the top U.S. diplomat there Friday that they're not ready to let in American aid workers despite warnings the country is on the verge of a medical catastrophe.

Another 4 inches of rain was forecast to fall next week as more than 1 million people waited for food, clean water, shelter and medicine to reach them. Diplomats and aid groups warned number of dead could eventually exceed 100,000 because of illnesses and said thousands of children may have been orphaned.

The U.N. World Food Program said two planeloads of supplies containing enough high-energy biscuits to feed 95,000 people were seized Friday, prompting the world body to say it was suspending food-aid flights.

Later, WFP chief spokeswoman Nancy Roman said flights would resume on Saturday while negotiations continued for the release of the supplies.

Myanmar's government acknowledged taking control of the shipments and said it plans to distribute the aid itself to the affected areas.

In a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press, government spokesman Ye Htut said the junta had clearly stated what it would do and denied the action amounted to a seizure.

"I would like to know which person or organization (made these) these baseless accusations," he said.

The WFP's regional director, Tony Banbury, directly appealed to Myanmar's military leaders in an interview with Associated Press Television News.

"Please, this food is going to people who need it very much. You and I, we have the same interests," Banbury said. "Those victims ? those 1 million or more people ? who need this assistance are not part of a political dialogue. They need this humanitarian assistance. Please release it."

Shari Villarosa, the U.S. charge d'affairs in Yangon, said she met with Myanmar Deputy Foreign Minister Kyaw Thu on Friday to discuss American relief operations.

Myanmar says it will accept aid from all countries, but prohibits the entry of foreign workers who would deliver and manage the operations. The junta is "not ready" to change that position, Villarosa said she was told.

The U.S. has an enormous ability to deliver aid quickly, evident during the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami that killed 230,000 people in a dozen nations.

More than 60,000 people are dead or missing and entire villages are submerged in the Irrawaddy delta after Saturday's cyclone. Many of the survivors waiting for food, clean water and medicine were crammed into Buddhist monasteries or camped outdoors.

The U.N. estimates 1.5 million people have been severely affected and has voiced concern about the disposal of dead bodies.

"Many are not buried and lie in the water. They have started rotting and the stench is beyond words," Anders Ladekarl, head of the Danish Red Cross.

About 20,000 body bags were being sent so volunteers from the Myanmar chapter of the Red Cross can start collecting bodies, he said.

The U.N.'s World Meteorological Organization said its models forecast three days of strong rain that could dump 4 inches in Myanmar beginning Thursday or Friday.

Heavy rain could worsen the situation in the storm-affected coastal region, the meteorological agency said, though it cautioned that forecasts beyond five days could change.

In the village of Kongyangon, someone had written in Burmese, "We are all in trouble. Please come help us" on black asphalt, a video from the Norway-based opposition news network, the Democratic Voice of Burma, showed. A few feet away was another plea: "We're hungry."

In Yangon, the price of increasingly scarce water has shot up by more than 500 percent, and rice and oil jumped by 60 percent over the last three days, the Danish Red Cross said.

The U.N. has grown increasingly critical of Myanmar's refusal to let in foreign aid workers who could assess the extent of the disaster with the junta apparently overwhelmed. None of the 10 visa applications submitted by the WFP has been approved.

"The frustration caused by what appears to be a paperwork delay is unprecedented in modern humanitarian relief efforts," Risley said. "It's astonishing."

The junta said in a statement Friday it was grateful to the international community for its assistance ? which has included 11 chartered planes loaded with aid supplies ? but the best way to help was just to send in material rather than personnel.

Andrew Brookes, an aerospace specialist at the IISS, an independent think tank, said Myanmar has about 15 transport planes but most are small jets not adequate to carry hundreds of tons of supplies. The country has fewer than 40 helicopters and only a fraction may be operational, he said.

"Even if they were all serviceable it's not even a drop in the ocean. The task is so awesome it would phase even a sophisticated force like the British, French or Germans," Brookes said.

It is not clear how much of aid has been delivered to the victims in the Irrawaddy delta.

"Believe me, the government will not allow outsiders to go into the devastated area," said Yangon food shop owner Joseph Kyaw.

"The government only cares about its own stability. They don't care about the plight of the people," he said.

Three Red Cross aid flights loaded with shelter kits and other emergency supplies landed in Myanmar Friday without incident.

"We are not experiencing any problems getting in (unlike) the United Nations," Danish Red Cross spokesman Hans Beck Gregersen said.

One relief flight was sent back after landing in Yangon on Thursday because it carried a search-and-rescue team and media representatives who had not received permission to enter the country, the junta said. It did not give details, but said the plane had flown in from Qatar.

According to state media, 23,335 people died and 37,019 are missing from Cyclone Nargis. Shari Villarosa, who heads the United States Embassy in Yangon, said the number of dead could eventually exceed 100,000 because of illnesses.

Grim assessments were made about what lies ahead. The aid group Action Against Hunger noted that the delta region is known as the country's granary, and the cyclone hit before the harvest.

"If the harvest has been destroyed this will have a devastating impact on food security in Myanmar," the group said.

The U.N. was putting together an urgent appeal to fund aid efforts over the next six months. Spokeswoman Elisabeth Byrs told reporters that the exact amount of the appeal would be specified later Friday.

The International Organization for Migration says it is asking for $8 million as part of the appeal. The U.N. refugee agency says it needs $6 million to fund the immediate shelter and household needs of 250,000 people.

France was sending a navy ship loaded with 1,500 tons of humanitarian aid to Myanmar, President Nicolas Sarkozy's office said Friday.

Private donations also were flowing to aid organizations, including a luxury river cruise liner donated by a British travel company to transport relief and 25,000 shoes sent by a U.S.-based group.

 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: Anubis
Myanmar is small cant we just invade it?

For what reason?

It's not like we have a RIGHT to provide aid to those folks...perhaps something of a "moral duty," but Myanmar...fuck that, BURMA is a sovereign nation, and like it or not, it's not our business how they run the country...or what they do to/with their people.

If so many of you ATOTers are against bailing out Americans who are losing their homes because of bad decisions, how the fuck can you justify bailing out people in foreign countries?
I'd MUCH rather see US tax dollars go to helping Americans than to go to foreign aid of any kind.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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They should carpet bomb all the "military" government facilities and then just do airdrop of food supplies
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
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Oh, and F Al Gore for trying to use this for his Global Warming campaign.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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What's really sad is that more will probably die due to the government inaction than from the actual disaster.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: JTsyo
What's really sad is that more will probably die due to the government inaction than from the actual disaster.

It would be pretty safe to remove the word 'probably' from your post...

just another Somalia scenario where the warlords will keep the donated food and supplies for themselves or sell to the highest bidder....watching how they are handling this while their people are dying is truly disgusting...
 
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