D3X beta out.

Deadtrees

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Based on the post from this guy that I've mentioned several times:

D3X has been shipped to testers world wide.

It's 24MP camera geared toward ultimate IQ.
Nikon worked hard on IQ aspect of this camera especially because of gray cast/wb issues with recent cameras.
(However, he says he's not sure if it'd not have such issues 100%)

High ISO performance would be less than that of D3(although not sure) but low ISO IQ would be better.

It'll probably be announced by 1st, Dec or 19th, Dec.

As mentioned in DPreview forum, there'll be one very unique feature.

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My 2c:

While waiting for 5D mk2, I'm quite interested in Sony @900 because of its Jpeg IQ. By IQ, I'm not talking about ISO performance. Sure, good ISO performance is always good to have but I'm dying for fine gradation and smooth color representation. Several years old Kodak cameras are still the king when it comes to those issues but the trade off is way much for me to bear. Thus, Canon was my only choice so far.

I've never expected Sony to be my consideration because prior to A900, they were the worst of all big 3. However, A900 is quite good, good enough for me to want to try it out but I just can't do it due to Sony/CZ leses being quite costly, not to mention my financial condition being not so good. Anyway, it's good to have a possible alt. choice.

Nikon, on the other hand, produces JPEG image that I just can't appreiacte. I'm not saying it's bad; what I'm saying is that it just is not my taste because it produces images far from having fine gradation and smooth color representation. In other words, Nikon seem to favor punchy images as Pentax once did. Having said that, I'm quite interested in what Nikon has come up with this one.
Nikon has been playing with color algorithms more than any other camera makers. For some it was not good because they had change their work flow when they upgraded. For some, it was taken as a positive sign that Nikon is working hard.
Now that Nikon is coming out with a camera targeting studio market, the market where most, if not all, of people do care much about fine gradation and smooth color representation, I'm really eager to see it. If IQ is good, with that sweet line-up and body quality, I think I'll have a perfect camera for some time.
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Based on the post from this guy that I've mentioned several times:

D3X has been shipped to testers world wide.

It's 2400MP camera geared toward ultimate IQ.
Nikon worked hard on IQ aspect of this camera especially because of gray cast/wb issues with recent cameras.
(However, he says he's not sure if it'd not have such issues 100%)

High ISO performance would be less than that of D3(although not sure) but low ISO IQ would be better.

It'll probably be announced by 1st, Dec or 19th, Dec.

As mentioned in DPreview forum, there'll be one very unique feature.

2,400MP. Is that like 2.4 Gigapixels?
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Based on the post from this guy that I've mentioned several times:

D3X has been shipped to testers world wide.

It's 2400MP camera geared toward ultimate IQ.
Nikon worked hard on IQ aspect of this camera especially because of gray cast/wb issues with recent cameras.
(However, he says he's not sure if it'd not have such issues 100%)

High ISO performance would be less than that of D3(although not sure) but low ISO IQ would be better.

It'll probably be announced by 1st, Dec or 19th, Dec.

As mentioned in DPreview forum, there'll be one very unique feature.

2,400MP. Is that like 2.4 Gigapixels?

Oops. 24MP that is. I always make mistake on that.
Thanks for pointing out. It's now fixed.
 

foghorn67

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Jan 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Based on the post from this guy that I've mentioned several times:

D3X has been shipped to testers world wide.

It's 2400MP camera geared toward ultimate IQ.
Nikon worked hard on IQ aspect of this camera especially because of gray cast/wb issues with recent cameras.
(However, he says he's not sure if it'd not have such issues 100%)

High ISO performance would be less than that of D3(although not sure) but low ISO IQ would be better.

It'll probably be announced by 1st, Dec or 19th, Dec.

As mentioned in DPreview forum, there'll be one very unique feature.

2,400MP. Is that like 2.4 Gigapixels?

Oops. 24MP that is. I always make mistake on that.
Thanks for pointing out. It's now fixed.

I know it was a typo. I just go out of my way to be an ass.
 

GrJohnso

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Cool.. Probably the same or mildly modified version of Sony's 24mp sensor. In which case noise levels should be similar, with a slightly different grain to it. For what ever reason, as seen on the d300 compared to the a700, even with the same base sensors Nikons produced a more acceptable type of noise than the Sony's. At least a noise than can be more easily cleaned up or managed, even if not really that different. I think it'll be interesting to see how agressive of an AA filter it uses, as that will play into it's ultimate sharpness...

Looking forward to seeing what Nikon does with this camera... Should be pretty sweet, but with a less than sweet $$$$
 

soydios

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Originally posted by: GrJohnso
Probably the same or mildly modified version of Sony's 24mp sensor. In which case noise levels should be similar, with a slightly different grain to it. For what ever reason, as seen on the d300 compared to the a700, even with the same base sensors Nikons produced a more acceptable type of noise than the Sony's. At least a noise than can be more easily cleaned up or managed, even if not really that different. I think it'll be interesting to see how agressive of an AA filter it uses, as that will play into it's ultimate sharpness.

Nikon takes an aggressive approach to chroma noise reduction, but relatively hands-off with luminance. The result is that the ugly color blotches are removed, while detail is retained. The only stuff left over is a very film-like grain. The drawback of chroma noise reduction is that apparently, subtle color gradations are desaturated towards gray.

For some reason Canon and Sony take the completely opposite approach, leaving chroma noise reduction off by default, and butchering the luminance data.
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: GrJohnso
For what ever reason, as seen on the d300 compared to the a700, even with the same base sensors Nikons produced a more acceptable type of noise than the Sony's. At least a noise than can be more easily cleaned up or managed, even if not really that different. I
until firmware V4 for the A700 which totally levelled the field.
I think that Sony are still on a learning curve trying to decide exactly what sort of settings the majority of the market want as standard & for what level of camera (I imagine that your average consumer for an A300 probably upgrading from a P&S may very well want a different look out of the camera than e.g. an A900 user). They'll never please everybody though.
 
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