daemn!! There is a helicopter circling the area and the cops are swarming all over my next door neighbors house...

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Torn Mind

Lifer
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Weed is now "legal" because why not add a revenue stream to the government coffers via the business avenue rather than make money through busts.

It will be a mixed bag of effects. Some good, some bad, just like alcohol. But if you can't stop it, then just make money from it and profit from the vice. It also advances science as more cases are out in the open for research. And no doubt driving while impaired will go up, and the costs associated with that.

(That means that little people STILL have to pay them to play big, just in the "civil" way of obtaining a business license rather than getting busted and paying the courts)
 

Spacehead

Lifer
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Around here in August/September when i see a chopper that's not Life Flight i figure they're looking for something.
 

Captante

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They had moved in with the entire contents they stole for about 6 weeks before they were busted.

If you watched a couple move into a house for rent and back a 24' U-Haul into the drive and unload beds, furniture, etc., including houseplants, and had a kid and a dog, would you suspect anything but people just renting a home?


Not off the top of my head BUT I would notice it if it was my neighborhood.

When on the lamb that's often bad enough to end with being caught ... last thing you want to do in any way is to be noticed.

Didn't you ever watch that series: "I almost got away with it" ??


My wife, with 20+ years as a counselor, says it's a gateway. 25yo+ and I don't agree. 18yo...likely.


Weed is the only drug I've ever used where the harm doesn't vastly outweigh the good ... although the act of smoking/vaping itself is NOT healthy!

My recollection of HS includes pretty much everyone at every party smoking a ton of weed. Most of them are NOT face down on skid row now... quite the contrary in fact.

Folks who end up getting addicted to the hard stuff and staying on it usually have a certain type of personality. Fact is most of them would end up hooked on something even if weed didn't exist at all. (but since it DOES exist not shockingly they'll smoke it)

In addition to this the VAST majority of people who smoke weed never touch any hard drug not prescribed by the family doctor.
 
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kage69

Lifer
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Weed legalization is probably the best thing Trudeau did here. It's ridiculous for a simple plant to be illegal.

Idk, I'd be ok with both of our countries outlawing giant hogweed. That's a simple plant too, just one that will send you to the hospital. Can't think of any ailment or condition made better by severe chemical burns or a risk of blindness.

Hey holy rollers and social authoritarians, that's the plant you should go after. Think of the white women!
 

MtnMan

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Not off the top of my head BUT I would notice it if it was my neighborhood.

When on the lamb that's often bad enough to end with being caught ... last thing you want to do in any way is to be noticed.
Curious, what would find suspicious about a couple with a kid and a dog with a U-Haul full of furniture moving into a vacant house that was for rent?

It's called hiding in plain sight.
 

Captante

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Curious, what would find suspicious about a couple with a kid and a dog with a U-Haul full of furniture moving into a vacant house that was for rent?

It's called hiding in plain sight.


Didn't say I would find it suspicious ... only that I would notice it.

Combine that with the wrong news story on TV for example and things get ugly fast.
 

MtnMan

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Didn't say I would find it suspicious ... only that I would notice it.

Combine that with the wrong news story on TV for example and things get ugly fast.
The guy escaped from prison in another state, Indiana, at least 500 miles away. The house they robbed was in yet another state, Tennessee, at least 150 miles away. Neither was probably on the news here.
 

Red Squirrel

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Idk, I'd be ok with both of our countries outlawing giant hogweed. That's a simple plant too, just one that will send you to the hospital. Can't think of any ailment or condition made better by severe chemical burns or a risk of blindness.

Hey holy rollers and social authoritarians, that's the plant you should go after. Think of the white women!

I heard of those, apparently we have some here now, that's freaking scary stuff too, just as bad as ticks which is another new danger we have here. You touch it, and it just starts to eat up your skin much like acid would and you risk going blind. What makes it worse there are lot of plants to look just like it.

If dealt with properly in an enclosed farm area I wonder if they would have some kind of industrial application though.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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Weed is the only drug I've ever used where the harm doesn't vastly outweigh the good ... although the act of smoking/vaping itself is NOT healthy!

My recollection of HS includes pretty much everyone at every party smoking a ton of weed. Most of them are NOT face down on skid row now... quite the contrary in fact.

Folks who end up getting addicted to the hard stuff and staying on it usually have a certain type of personality. Fact is most of them would end up hooked on something even if weed didn't exist at all. (but since it DOES exist not shockingly they'll smoke it)

In addition to this the VAST majority of people who smoke weed never touch any hard drug not prescribed by the family doctor.

Yeah from my understanding weed itself does not really have addictive properties but it's like anything, some people are addicted to Pepsi or other things that end up becoming harmful. The type of people that do drugs just to get high may want to move on from weed and try something harder, but a lot of people just stick to weed.

I tried it and had a bad experience myself but mostly because I was in a social setting. I would try it again but alone. I don't really want to smoke it though, if I try it again it will be edibles or oils. I actually want to see if CBD oil can help my night jaw clenching issue as it's starting to really affect me in different ways, even eating. I also don't want to be stuck with the mouth guard for rest of my life so if the oil can actually work then I'll just treat it like taking vitamins and take it every day before bed. I'll want to research that more though. If it works out, I'd eventually want to learn how to make my own since that stuff is not cheap.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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Indiana, at least 500 miles away ... Neither was probably on the news here


Remember when I asked in my previous post if anyone had ever watched a show called "I almost got away with it" ??

Watch a few episodes then get back to me ... ALL the people who are featured almost getting away with whatever they did thought that way.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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I used to smoke a lot of weed 25 years ago. I stopped when I got paranoid. But there are many other benefits to the cannabis plant than just getting high and relaxing.

I take a high strength CBD oil that helped me with my medium to mild grade sleep apnea and I even snore less. A friend gave me 2.5mg edibles and I tried them for mild anxiety and they really helped. All the people that could have been helped with things we know now cannabis is good for and all the things we will discover in the future, that could have been discovered sooner if it wasn't banned by a puritanical, and racist, mindset.
 
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MtnMan

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Remember when I asked in my previous post if anyone had ever watched a show called "I almost got away with it" ??

Watch a few episodes then get back to me ... ALL the people who are featured almost getting away with whatever they did thought that way.
Can't say I ever watched it.

I would also suspect that almost all people that commit crimes really think they can get away with it.
 

Captante

Lifer
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Can't say I ever watched it.

I would also suspect that almost all people that commit crimes really think they can get away with it.

It's pretty good ... tells stories of people who almost got away with some pretty major crimes. If you get bored watch a few.

I (almost) got away with it (Discovery)

Point is the more ANYONE becomes aware you exist, the better the odds of getting caught.
 

pmv

Lifer
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It's messed up for peeps with chronic pain. Some device needs to be invented so medical professionals can feel what their patients feel. Had a guy tell me that his new VA Dr said he didn't need that fentynal patch for his messed up back and wouldn't refill it. The same back that the workers comp Dr said, "Dayum, pay the man."


Often thought exactly that. Particularly for sensations for which there don't seem to be words in the English language to precisely describe.

Edit - not just because it might make them more sympathetic over the need for painkillers, but because it might actually help with diagnosing conditions. Seems to me that medics are in the position of someone providing IT support over the phone. If you've ever had to talk an elderly-relative through fixing some PC problem, when you have no direct access to the computer, but have to mediate everything through their descriptions of what is happening ("a box has appeeared...there's a box on the screen" "what kind of box?" "I don't know it's just a box...now its gone again"), I think that's a bit like what it is for a medic trying to diagnose something without any direct access to the sensory inputs the patient is experiencing, but having to have everything go through the patient's ability to identify and describe them. And just as you often see remote IT support start to blame the person with the problem for their inability to fix it, medics tend to do the same.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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Can't say I ever watched it.

I would also suspect that almost all people that commit crimes really think they can get away with it.


Then they encounter the Scooby gang and those 'meddling kids'.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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Often thought exactly that. Particularly for sensations for which there don't seem to be words in the English language to precisely describe.
Pain is subjective though. Even if I experienced the exact same sensations as you I wouldn't necessarily react the same way. Some pain I can ignore to a stupid level but some I'm ridiculously sensitive to.
Its why medics say stupid things like "what's your pain like on a score out of ten" because it doesn't matter what they think it should be (within certain levels) it's what your experiencing that matters.
On the other hand we don't really need to treat pain until it doesn't hurt, we need to treat pain because it stops you functioning.
 
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