That *IS* integrated and it is EXACTLY what I said would not work with the ambient noise at 120MPH. It's not a sound-proof luxury vehicle. Do you just like to spew crap from your mouth?! It's like you've never used a speakerphone in your life.
"WHAT?!"
Edit: My friends build these Sorentos for a living at Kia's West Point, GA factory and the one I contacted agrees that even my extra-loud Xperia PLAY speakerphone would be unusable at 120MPH. I'd say that they have a pretty good idea what it would sound like in there. How's that for "arguing?"
Additionally, she could have thrown her keyless receiver out the window and the car would have shut down too.
Additionally, she could have thrown her keyless receiver out the window and the car would have shut down too.
Yes. An auxiliary speakerphone would be one external to the phone whether corded or Bluetooth. You do speak English, right? Then you should know what "integrated" means. It has nothing to do with you using that word. I used many English words in my response that you did not use. Why are you singling out this one?No I never initially said integrated. Integrated *is* also using the speakerphone from the handset?
Wow. You actually think it has to be completely inaudible for what I said to be true? They are functionally unusable at half that speed on almost any typical handset in almost any typical non-luxury car whether you can hear them or not. Do you have any idea how speakerphone works? It becomes functionally half-duplex and must intelligently distinguish between room noise and conversational dialog to allow the other party to speak while it filters out background noise. If the other party has too much background noise coming through from their side, you will never get a chance to speak and vice-versa. A one-sided conversation isn't "functional" just because you might be able to hear it, whether you can hear every word or just bleeps and bloops."WHAT?!" Is it completely inaudible at 120mph in a Sorrento? If I call the victim and get her cellphone model, can you get your friend to verify no words can be made out from the speakerphone? Pretty please?
Is this true of the Kias? Other models would either tell you there's no longer a key in the cabin or just not start again. Kia actually kills the engine?
Let's get CZroe to call his friend back!
Exactly like the San Diego Prius incident, but it didn't mean much then. I was screaming "BS!" long before any news organization even reported that possibility. Turns out that the guy was about to lose the car and wanted to make more legal trouble for them. I finger-wagged the DailyTech article for saying that he "did" things to try and stop instead of saying that he "claimed" to have done them, but every media outlet made the same mistake: His car "did" accelerate unintended and the man "did" take his foot off the gas and try to brake.I smell a lawsuit
Interview with the driver at her home:
http://fox4kc.com/2012/08/27/woman-maintains-control-when-her-car-apparently-malfunctions/
The voice-over said she could not shift out of drive. Driver talks about using the parking brake to no effect, but did anyone hear if she used the 'regular' brakes?
YesSeriously, you really think she wouldn't have used the normal brakes?
Perhaps not if she's trying to scam us. Skepticism. Take a healthy dose. Remember the SECOND San Diego incident.Seriously, you really think she wouldn't have used the normal brakes?
Sure, but it never makes it to the news because they quickly stop the car. :sneaky::awe:Does this ever happen to men?
Just watched the interview on CNN. Near the end of the interview.
She said that the 911 operator told her to let go of the gas pedal and press on the brake.
When she did that, the car slowed down and stopped.
hmmmmmm.........
Is this true of the Kias? Other models would either tell you there's no longer a key in the cabin or just not start again. Kia actually kills the engine?
Let's get CZroe to call his friend back!
Yes. An auxiliary speakerphone would be one external to the phone whether corded or Bluetooth. You do speak English, right? Then you should know what "integrated" means. It has nothing to do with you using that word. I used many English words in my response that you did not use. Why are you singling out this one?
We BOTH knew that you were talking about the only kind of speakerphone that can be assumed to be present: The one integrated into the handset. An automotive one could be a kit that connects to the stereo, clips to the sun visor, mounts in the DC jack, or even "integrated" in the stereo (aftermarket or factory option). They do things like automatically raise the volume with the speed and ambient noise and optimize noise filters for road noise.
Wow. You actually think it has to be completely inaudible for what I said to be true? They are functionally unusable at half that speed on almost any typical handset in almost any typical non-luxury car whether you can hear them or not. Do you have any idea how speakerphone works? It becomes functionally half-duplex and must intelligently distinguish between room noise and conversational dialog to allow the other party to speak while it filters out background noise. If the other party has too much background noise coming through from their side, you will never get a chance to speak and vice-versa. A one-sided conversation isn't "functional" just because you might be able to hear it, whether you can hear every word or just bleeps and bloops.
I brought up a specific handset model because it was particularly loud with stereo speakers and more closely resembled a best case scenario for you. Because you did not know her cellphone model and you asked why "people still talk with the phone on their ears while in the car," your statement implies that they would work IN GENERAL and, therefore, must be true for the majority of cellphones. Not sure how HER specific cellphone makes the premise of your question about "people" and their cars true.
You should have tried my old Samsung N400. The integrated speakerphone didn't work in a laboratory environment. Complete engineering FAIL.
Where did I ever say that I "called" him?! I said "contacted!" /rh71
FYI, I texted him because he's at work right now and had not yet heard of this incident. I am texting this question to him but he may not know because he does mostly chassis work (currently repaints the ones with imperfections). FWIW, he said that they use a ton of "deadener pads" in the construction to minimize noise.
70 posts, and no comments on the terrible intro and outro on that video by the news anchor?
Turning off the car is bad. You lose power stearing.
In any modern car, though, the breaks will overpower the accelerator. There's no excuse if she wasn't pushing the breaks. Ticket + driving school should be in her future.