Dakota Pipeline - Protestors Assaulted With Water Cannons In Freezing Weather

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Kazukian

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If I was genuinely calling them the ol' "I-word", I'd understand the faux outrage. But when it's abundantly clear that it was a caricature of an anti-Native racist, and that I went at length do explain how such satire works to make a point, they focus on that one word and disregard all else.

Still haven't gotten a response back on Huckelberry Finn's use of the "N-word".

As well as the fact that these individuals happily use the term Indian, not to describe Indians, but Native Americans because they think they look the same.

It's like they're commenters from imgur.

There isn't a consensus on what Aboriginal Americans prefer to be called, I do know "beloved patriot" is perceived as a perjorative term, like redskins. For someone with such respect for them, you'd think you'd choose your words more carefully.

I responded to Earl about Huckleberry Finn, it's a great piece of literature, but you're not a great piece of literature, so fuck off.
 

JSt0rm

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There isn't a consensus on what Aboriginal Americans prefer to be called, I do know "beloved patriot" is perceived as a perjorative term, like redskins. For someone with such respect for them, you'd think you'd choose your words more carefully.

I responded to Earl about Huckleberry Finn, it's a great piece of literature, but you're not a great piece of literature, so fuck off.


Would you stop with your retarded argument. If you want a safe space start a thread about it.
 

Kazukian

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Would you stop with your retarded argument. If you want a safe space start a thread about it.

Actually, "beloved patriot" will be added to the blocked words on this forum, spent the day negotiating it. It's a perjorative term, and frankly, some autistic idiot on another continent that's never even met a native using it offends the hell out of me.
 

Kazukian

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The impact statement will say if the crossing goes north, it puts Bismark's water supply at risk, south and it puts the tribes water at risk. It'll be announced as the corporation is fully geared to finish it, protestors will drift away because the winters up there are harsh as hell, maybe they'll gear up again. Maybe they'll find another cause by then. Obama will dodge the bullet, and Trump will have to own the mess, which was working up to a nightmare confrontation.

Best possible non decision by Obama.
 

ivwshane

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The impact statement will say if the crossing goes north, it puts Bismark's water supply at risk, south and it puts the tribes water at risk. It'll be announced as the corporation is fully geared to finish it, protestors will drift away because the winters up there are harsh as hell, maybe they'll gear up again. Maybe they'll find another cause by then. Obama will dodge the bullet, and Trump will have to own the mess, which was working up to a nightmare confrontation.

Best possible non decision by Obama.

Spoken like a true believer!
 
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Are you one of them SJW's crying about safe spaces and being triggered all the time?

Really the term injuns means nothing offensive to me and haven't heard it in years
People rarely say Indians anymore either

I got the term rezidents from natives. I was a rezident for a while
The ex would get a kick out of you saying "Bless me for taking them in"
Her paycheck would probably make your balls shrink a couple more sizes
Sorry, i thought you took them in out of love, not out of how much money you and your wife can make on their situation. My mistake.
 

rommelrommel

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Actually, "beloved patriot" will be added to the blocked words on this forum, spent the day negotiating it. It's a perjorative term, and frankly, some autistic idiot on another continent that's never even met a native using it offends the hell out of me.

Yet you throw around autistic as an actual perjorative quite easily...
 

MajinCry

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I think you'll find that autistic is a noun, and that mentally handicapped individuals are indeed discriminated against.

Your faux outrage, and the stripping away of all nuance and context, would be quaint if there was any effort put into it.
 

Kazukian

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I think you'll find that autistic is a noun, and that mentally handicapped individuals are indeed discriminated against.

Your faux outrage, and the stripping away of all nuance and context, would be quaint if there was any effort put into it.

Is there anything you'd like to tell us about autism, MajinCry?
 

Zorba

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Not sure why the pipeline company doesn't propose using an annulus pipe, where the inner pipe carries the crude and the outer pipe is is only full of air. Any leak in the inner pipe is contained by the outer pipe. The whole thing is sloped toward a salvage system that would immediately detect a leak in the inner pipe. This would allow the pipeline to be shut down before any oil made in into the water. This system is used all the time in various industries.

Well I know why, it would be more expensive and they don't want to spend a penny more than they have to.
 
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glenn1

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Not sure why the pipeline company doesn't propose using an annulus pipe, where the inner pipe carries the crude and the outer pipe is is only full of air. Any leak in the inner pipe is contained by the outer pipe. The whole thing is sloped toward a salvage system that would immediately detect a leak in the inner pipe. This would allow the pipeline to be shut down before any oil made in into the water. This system is used all the time in various industries.

Well I know why, it would be more expensive and they don't want to spend a penny more than they have to.

Do you think the tribes and other associated protesters would suddenly say "OK go ahead and build it now that you're using an annulus pipe"?

All the Obama action is accomplishing is allowing the protesters to disperse with a "victory" and then Trump will flip the decision back in 6 weeks. Only this time there won't be a repeat because the company, states, and Feds will have so much security on site that there won't be a second protest. There will be absolutely no mercy in the beatings for anyone who does try to show up and protest and next time the news cameras won't be there to broadcast it either.
 

agent00f

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The coasts have the vast majority of the .01% while the middle and south that are "dragging the coasts down" feed and fuel the coasts. The coasts would be on their knees within weeks of getting rid of the middle and south, so don't get all uppity.

Why don't the people who believe this ever want to test their little theory? You're like the parasite in the relationship always proclaiming how important they are.


See, this is the whitewashing.

It was the US that coined the term Indian, to denote Native Americans, because they looked like Indians to the nitwits that ended up on the continent. It's the same as calling Kyrgyz, Laotian, and Thai people Chinese, because "they all look the same", yet whilst the latter has rightfully fallen out of fashion, the former sticks.

And beloved patriot is just a corruption of that word; exactly like negro to great person, it goes indian to beloved patriot. And rather than admit that the US has this horrible racial bias against the Native Americans, you'd rather that the term be completely forgotten, to never be used in any context.

To follow that logic, Huckleberry Finn is an ungodly book that should never be read by any morally upstanding individual, nor To Kill A Mockingbird. The term great person is used throughout those books, after all.


Are you being facile on purpose, or are you just this much of a simpleton?

Just a heads up that Kazukian is a buckshitter willing to say anything to get their way. In this case his goal is to divert away from anything relevant where his ideology loses badly to anything else such as some word you chose for effect the topic of conversation.

The way to deal with this isn't to let a disingenuous piece of shit dictate the terms, and instead tell it like is about how they handle any adversity.
 
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agent00f

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Actually, "beloved patriot" will be added to the blocked words on this forum, spent the day negotiating it. It's a perjorative term, and frankly, some autistic idiot on another continent that's never even met a native using it offends the hell out of me.

It's so cute when you sort pretend to care about this and that minority your candidate has no compunction about throwing under the bus if gets him a few votes.

Liberals lose because they're not willing to do what it takes unlike these sort.
 

bshole

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Do you think the tribes and other associated protesters would suddenly say "OK go ahead and build it now that you're using an annulus pipe"?

All the Obama action is accomplishing is allowing the protesters to disperse with a "victory" and then Trump will flip the decision back in 6 weeks. Only this time there won't be a repeat because the company, states, and Feds will have so much security on site that there won't be a second protest. There will be absolutely no mercy in the beatings for anyone who does try to show up and protest and next time the news cameras won't be there to broadcast it either.

The subtext here being that you think government thugs beating protestors mercilessly is a good thing. That is a bit disquieting. As much as I despise the Ammon Bundy clan, I never supported government thugs beating them mercilessly and would have been outraged by such behavior.
 

glenn1

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The subtext here being that you think government thugs beating protestors mercilessly is a good thing. That is a bit disquieting. As much as I despise the Ammon Bundy clan, I never supported government thugs beating them mercilessly and would have been outraged by such behavior.

It's not advocating for it but rather just a simple statement of truth. When do you think beatings happen, when tons of TV cameras are watching during a protest that's nationwide news, or when the development is no longer in the limelight and you just have a few diehard believers left? Most protests that reach a certain size are met with escalating levels of counter-violence, often state sponsored. Look at what transpired in events as varied as the Pullman Strike to Ferguson MO or countless other examples. The one and only sure thing you can count on is that should protests resume in the future they will be met with overwhelming force from the beginning so as to preclude even the possibility of the protests growing to the size they did last time. If that requires the pipeline companies to put a few people into the hospital in critical condition that's what will happen, "good thing" or not has no bearing on it.
 

Zorba

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It's not advocating for it but rather just a simple statement of truth. When do you think beatings happen, when tons of TV cameras are watching during a protest that's nationwide news, or when the development is no longer in the limelight and you just have a few diehard believers left? Most protests that reach a certain size are met with escalating levels of counter-violence, often state sponsored. Look at what transpired in events as varied as the Pullman Strike to Ferguson MO or countless other examples. The one and only sure thing you can count on is that should protests resume in the future they will be met with overwhelming force from the beginning so as to preclude even the possibility of the protests growing to the size they did last time. If that requires the pipeline companies to put a few people into the hospital in critical condition that's what will happen, "good thing" or not has no bearing on it.

And look how well that worked with Ferguson, it spawned a national wide protest movement. If the permit is approved later the protestors will come back and so will the TV cameras. If there are mass beatings there will be even more mass outrage.

Is there any example in US history where a mass, state sponsored beat down actually defeated a protest movement? Especially since WWII?
 
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