Dakota Pipeline - Protestors Assaulted With Water Cannons In Freezing Weather

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Zorba

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Do you think the tribes and other associated protesters would suddenly say "OK go ahead and build it now that you're using an annulus pipe"?

Well I doubt it would appease the major hardliners, but it should appease everyone else that is actually concerned about water contamination. Really, it should be a requirement for going under a major water way any way.
 

MajinCry

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Just a heads up that Kazukian is a buckshitter willing to say anything to get their way. In this case his goal is to divert away from anything relevant where his ideology loses badly to anything else such as some word you chose for effect the topic of conversation.

The way to deal with this isn't to let a disingenuous piece of shit dictate the terms, and instead tell it like is about how they handle any adversity.

Aye, he baited me along quite well. Shoulda noticed that, what with him just taking one word and diverting the conversation over and over.

Some honesty would have been nice, seeing as how he said he's been an adult for a long while, but it was just diversion and fixation in equal measure.
 

Kazukian

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Aye, he baited me along quite well. Shoulda noticed that, what with him just taking one word and diverting the conversation over and over.

Some honesty would have been nice, seeing as how he said he's been an adult for a long while, but it was just diversion and fixation in equal measure.

To be fair, your experience with racist terms referring to native Americans is pretty limited.

And I'd bet money the pipeline will go in right where it's been plotted, this was a way for Obama's admin to bow out and get at least some of the protestors out of the harsh winter.
 

glenn1

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Well I doubt it would appease the major hardliners, but it should appease everyone else that is actually concerned about water contamination. Really, it should be a requirement for going under a major water way any way.

While I'm not a petroleum engineer, generally with most alternative design solutions there are other tradeoffs and risks besides just cost. For example double-hulled oil tanker ships offer improved endurance against minor collisions causing oil spills but are in turn more susceptible to explosion due to buildup of volatile gases between the hulls and other risks. So what's the tradeoff for annulus pipelines if we used those instead?
 

momeNt

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Is there a TLDF - too long didn't follow - version of this?

Is it true that the Sioux tribe wanted a toll for all the crude that passed through the area? They didn't get their way, and then claim ancestral burial ground disturbance, and etc?
 

MajinCry

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Is there a TLDF - too long didn't follow - version of this?

Is it true that the Sioux tribe wanted a toll for all the crude that passed through the area? They didn't get their way, and then claim ancestral burial ground disturbance, and etc?

New pipeline being constructed that passes through various major fresh water rivers. Initially went through a fresh water supply for a white community, so it was re-routed to go through several rivers that provide fresh water to Native American communities.

Said Native communities protested, and were promptly met with attack dogs, pepper spray and beatings. As the construction progressed, police instead used water cannons (in freezing temperatures), concussion grenades, rubber bullets and pepper spray. Propaganda drivel issued by the police claimed that no water cannons were used, and that the protestors were in using explosives

Bunch of white veterans were going to march on up and demonstrate alongside the Native Americans, which quickly prompted the pipeline to be "looked at".
 

norseamd

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Why don't the people who believe this ever want to test their little theory? You're like the parasite in the relationship always proclaiming how important they are.

Its like they think food isnt a commodity available to be bought and sold on the global market.
 

Newbian

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New pipeline being constructed that passes through various major fresh water rivers. Initially went through a fresh water supply for a white community, so it was re-routed to go through several rivers that provide fresh water to Native American communities.

Said Native communities protested, and were promptly met with attack dogs, pepper spray and beatings. As the construction progressed, police instead used water cannons (in freezing temperatures), concussion grenades, rubber bullets and pepper spray. Propaganda drivel issued by the police claimed that no water cannons were used, and that the protestors were in using explosives

Bunch of white veterans were going to march on up and demonstrate alongside the Native Americans, which quickly prompted the pipeline to be "looked at".

Please do not use such racist words.

The term you are looking for is Caucasian americans and we are getting the word "white" banned as we speak.
 

Kazukian

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The routing wasn't so much race based as population density sensitive.

MajinCry is also omitting that the new fresh water intake for Standing Rock is 70 miles away from the pipeline. It was an expensive project and the intake is near Mobridge, SD.
 

agent00f

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Its like they think food isnt a commodity available to be bought and sold on the global market.

For all they talk about farming they sure seem ignorant how what grows is sold.

To be fair, your experience with racist terms referring to native Americans is pretty limited.

And I'd bet money the pipeline will go in right where it's been plotted, this was a way for Obama's admin to bow out and get at least some of the protestors out of the harsh winter.

He was referring to how your sort historically thought about natives, but you knew that.
 
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Newbian

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The routing wasn't so much race based as population density sensitive.

MajinCry is also omitting that the new fresh water intake for Standing Rock is 70 miles away from the pipeline. It was an expensive project and the intake is near Mobridge, SD.

Please stop using common sense as it's not allowed in this forum.
 

momeNt

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The routing wasn't so much race based as population density sensitive.

MajinCry is also omitting that the new fresh water intake for Standing Rock is 70 miles away from the pipeline. It was an expensive project and the intake is near Mobridge, SD.

From what I understand, SRST got a TARP grant in 2008 to construct a new fresh water intake correct?

So the story that the SRST overplayed their hand in the negotiations in trying to get tolls for the pipeline is false?
 
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The routing wasn't so much race based as population density sensitive.

MajinCry is also omitting that the new fresh water intake for Standing Rock is 70 miles away from the pipeline. It was an expensive project and the intake is near Mobridge, SD.

70 miles downstream. Wonder which way oil polluted water would be flowing.
 

Newbian

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Pretty common sense that in juns getting screwed is the natural order of things in this country.
But how did they get screwed here when the pipeline wasn't on their property?

Just because it could cause issues isn't a defense if it met the safety requirements.
 

Kazukian

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From what I understand, SRST got a TARP grant in 2008 to construct a new fresh water intake correct?

So the story that the SRST overplayed their hand in the negotiations in trying to get tolls for the pipeline is false?

I don't know that they asked for any $, they may have, but I don't know.
 

agent00f

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But how did they get screwed here when the pipeline wasn't on their property?

Just because it could cause issues isn't a defense if it met the safety requirements.

I suspect you're smart enough to both understand how pollution works and compare how the folks here were treated compared to whitey actual terrorists freedom fighters in oregon and such.
 
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I suspect you're smart enough to both understand how pollution works and compare how the folks here were treated compared to whitey actual terrorists freedom fighters in oregon and such.
"whitey" gotta love these lefty racists. We all know that it's perfectly acceptable in these forums to be a racist, as long as it's the "proper" type racist.
 

KMFJD

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The routing wasn't so much race based as population density sensitive.

MajinCry is also omitting that the new fresh water intake for Standing Rock is 70 miles away from the pipeline. It was an expensive project and the intake is near Mobridge, SD.

Too dangerous for the whites but safe enough for the natives!
 
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