Dakota Pipeline - Protestors Assaulted With Water Cannons In Freezing Weather

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Kazukian

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Too dangerous for the whites but safe enough for the natives!

They have a new water system intake 70 miles away from any potential spills, Mobridge has white people in it too, same water.

 
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Newbian

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I suspect you're smart enough to both understand how pollution works and compare how the folks here were treated compared to whitey actual terrorists freedom fighters in oregon and such.

It has nothing to do with that but about population size as it could be a risk for everyone but it's simply a smaller population size in that area then some other route but picking out one small group of people because they were abused many hundreds of years ago is not the way to go as that's racism also.

Once again I refer to the vulcan saying as that's the way to go here.
 

agent00f

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It has nothing to do with that but about population size as it could be a risk for everyone but it's simply a smaller population size in that area then some other route but picking out one small group of people because they were abused many hundreds of years ago is not the way to go as that's racism also.

Once again I refer to the vulcan saying as that's the way to go here.

Seems to me some peoples are easier to victimize than others. They finally take a stand and this is what happens as a lesson to the uppity.
 

Newbian

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Seems to me some peoples are easier to victimize than others. They finally take a stand and this is what happens as a lesson to the uppity.
It's easier to victimize is a smaller population than a larger one and that's the pure facts here but in either case if no one can build anything 70 miles away from another person then nothing would get built.

Especially when you ignore the options like these communities were given by never going to the meetings they were invited to and only get upset over it at the last minute.
 

agent00f

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It's easier to victimize is a smaller population than a larger one and that's the pure facts here but in either case if no one can build anything 70 miles away from another person then nothing would get built.

Especially when you ignore the options like these communities were given by never going to the meetings they were invited to and only get upset over it at the last minute.

No, it's historical fact the great ease of victimizing some expendable minorities than white folks who're born on the cross. History that you're do doubt aware of but feel uneasy about for understandable reasons.
 

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No, it's historical fact the great ease of victimizing some expendable minorities than white folks who're born on the cross. History that you're do doubt aware of but feel uneasy about for understandable reasons.
Except nothing was done to avoid white communities as it's been pointed out as it still does have the potential to be an issue for some for where it was happening.

The only thing that was done different was to move the pipeline away from a community that covers all races that was many times the size and that's all that mattered here however some people love to use the minority card excuse whenever they can even when it doesn't apply as is the case here.

And then you get idiots who waste tons of gas to protest something that would lessen the demand of gas so yet another retarded move on some.

If you don't want pipelines to exist then stop increasing the demand for them.
 

agent00f

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Except nothing was done to avoid white communities as it's been pointed out as it still does have the potential to be an issue for some for where it was happening.

The only thing that was done different was to move the pipeline away from a community that covers all races that was many times the size and that's all that mattered here however some people love to use the minority card excuse whenever they can even when it doesn't apply as is the case here.

And then you get idiots who waste tons of gas to protest something that would lessen the demand of gas so yet another retarded move on some.

If you don't want pipelines to exist then stop increasing the demand for them.

"Why them blacks get so uppity when that guy shot had it coming, not like white people don't get shot, too, or blacks shoot each other".

Pretty obvious enough in this case when you see what happens to white "protesters" out in oregon & such actually threatening to shoot the law, not just from fed POV but what the country is willing to put up with given the ethnicity aggrieved.
 

JSt0rm

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Yeah, but Norway has fewer idiots standing in front of theirs.

your right. The population has a better education in norway. Funny how a functional gov and an educated populace go hand in hand. That was my point the whole time.
 
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norseamd

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Norway is certainly an example of socialism done correctly. It's also a very sparsely populated nation (in the lower 20% world wide) with incredible mineral wealth to exploit. As such, I suspect Norway is always going to be an outlier. If however you want, you can try immigrating to Norway so that you too can enjoy all the benefits of socialism done right.

The incredible wealth you are referring to probably isnt minerals, its oil. And its not because of the massive hydrocarbon wealth of Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, and Finland are all run exactly the same way, and none of them have the same oil reserves as Norway, except maybe Greenland and Iceland, and I dont think either of them are exploiting their oil reserves to the same degree as Norway, and they are all just as successful. Perhaps neither capitalism or socialism works, but mixed systems are what truly work, maybe something conservatives could learn?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
 

norseamd

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The coasts have the vast majority of the .01% while the middle and south that are "dragging the coasts down" feed and fuel the coasts. The coasts would be on their knees within weeks of getting rid of the middle and south, so don't get all uppity.

You really dont know shit. If the coasts drop off, the middle and south would be on their knees just as much from the lack of food from California. Guess who works most of that food? Mexicans.
 

Kazukian

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I hope that they are protesting as well.
Except nothing was done to avoid white communities as it's been pointed out as it still does have the potential to be an issue for some for where it was happening.

The only thing that was done different was to move the pipeline away from a community that covers all races that was many times the size and that's all that mattered here however some people love to use the minority card excuse whenever they can even when it doesn't apply as is the case here.

And then you get idiots who waste tons of gas to protest something that would lessen the demand of gas so yet another retarded move on some.

If you don't want pipelines to exist then stop increasing the demand for them.


Every single thing you own, use, etc is reliant on petrochemicals, in their manufacture, transportation, repair, and use, from windmills to the keyboard people are using.
 

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bshole

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"Why them blacks get so uppity when that guy shot had it coming, not like white people don't get shot, too, or blacks shoot each other".

Pretty obvious enough in this case when you see what happens to white "protesters" out in oregon & such actually threatening to shoot the law, not just from fed POV but what the country is willing to put up with given the ethnicity aggrieved.

My information was that the feds shot and killed one of those white "protestors" and charged the rest with some pretty serious crimes. They did get off due to packing the jury with nutters and I am still angry about that.

How many of these Dakota protestors have been shot and killed by the feds?
 

Orignal Earl

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Except nothing was done to avoid white communities as it's been pointed out as it still does have the potential to be an issue for some for where it was happening.

The only thing that was done different was to move the pipeline away from a community that covers all races that was many times the size and that's all that mattered here however some people love to use the minority card excuse whenever they can even when it doesn't apply as is the case here.

And then you get idiots who waste tons of gas to protest something that would lessen the demand of gas so yet another retarded move on some.

If you don't want pipelines to exist then stop increasing the demand for them.

White communities have been protesting since day one too

Landowners across Iowa have expressed concern about the implications of allowing the state to use eminent domain to condemn privately-owned land, particularly agricultural land, on behalf of a company that has not demonstrated any substantial public benefit to the residents of Iowa.[13] In March 2015, a Des Moines Register poll found that while 57% of Iowans supported the Dakota Access Pipeline, 74% were opposed to the use of eminent domain condemnation on behalf of a private corporation

In September 2014, Standing Rock Sioux Tribal (SRST) Councilman Dave Archambault II conducted an initial informational meeting between the SRST and Dakota Access Pipeline representatives. At the beginning of the meeting, Archambault indicated the tribe's opposition to the project within treaty boundaries, stating, "So just that you know: this is something that the tribe is not supporting." Additional SRST representatives voiced opposition and concerns about the pipeline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline_protests

Some clarification on the Army Corps of Engineer's statement

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5ghzwg/us_army_corps_of_engineers_to_look_for_alternate/
 

agent00f

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My information was that the feds shot and killed one of those white "protestors" and charged the rest with some pretty serious crimes. They did get off due to packing the jury with nutters and I am still angry about that.

How many of these Dakota protestors have been shot and killed by the feds?

That guy got killed for driving straight at feds staffing a roadblock from a group making threatening noises (ie "terrorists"). Consider also the bundy standoff began in nevada where nobody got shot or even close in an armed confrontation well past violating the law.

Now compare this to a relatively peaceful protest in comparison and a whole army of feds present firing all sorts of shit short of live ammo at the crowd. I do wonder what the marked difference is when looking at photos of the two causes, the good ol' boys vs in juns.
 

bshole

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That guy got killed for driving straight at feds staffing a roadblock from a group making threatening noises (ie "terrorists"). Consider also the bundy standoff began in nevada where nobody got shot or even close in an armed confrontation well past violating the law.

Now compare this to a relatively peaceful protest in comparison and a whole army of feds present firing all sorts of shit short of live ammo at the crowd. I do wonder what the marked difference is when looking at photos of the two causes, the good ol' boys vs in juns.

Pretty easy. One group was armed to the fucking teeth and were frothing at the bit for a gun fight and the other was not. You are probably too young to remember Ruby Ridge or Waco, etc.... The Feds have learned to handle these right wing nutters extremely cautiously. The right wingers will SHOOT back and are more than happy to go out in a blaze of glory. The Feds realized that they could brutalize the Dakota protestors without fear of bodily harm, they also realized that they could not do the same against the Bundy clan without a full-scale bloodbath. I believe they handled the Bundys PERFECTLY. Only had to kill one nutter and no feds were injured or killed plus all the baddies arrested.
 

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@bshole Right. The modus operandi is to not brutalize armed whites obstructing the Government, but if there are unarmed Native Americans protesting the poisoning of their fresh water, it's time to give the attack dogs some work experience.
 

agent00f

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Pretty easy. One group was armed to the fucking teeth and were frothing at the bit for a gun fight and the other was not. You are probably too young to remember Ruby Ridge or Waco, etc.... The Feds have learned to handle these right wing nutters extremely cautiously. The right wingers will SHOOT back and are more than happy to go out in a blaze of glory. The Feds realized that they could brutalize the Dakota protestors without fear of bodily harm, they also realized that they could not do the same against the Bundy clan without a full-scale bloodbath. I believe they handled the Bundys PERFECTLY. Only had to kill one nutter and no feds were injured or killed plus all the baddies arrested.

No, the native use to fight back too and the solution was straight genocide. If only you were right about the feds acting with some consistency.
 
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