Dallas officer enters apartment she mistakes for her own, fatally shoots man inside

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sandorski

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Now it is revealed that post Shooting a warrant was issued to search the victims home for Drugs. FFS.
 
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Now it is revealed that post Shooting a warrant was issued to search the victims home for Drugs. FFS.

Hope that you aren't surprised. Still haven't released her blood test either. The department has also not stated if a search warrant has been executed on her apartment or vehicle.
 
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Now it is revealed that post Shooting a warrant was issued to search the victims home for Drugs. FFS.
A man is shot and killed in his own home by a cop and they try to destroy his character over a little weed after killing him.

Ask again why they kneel you orange mother f’er.

Meanwhile the NRA is using this as an example of why people should be armed. To kill police at their door.

Your country won’t survive much longer.
 

HomerJS

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A man is shot and killed in his own home by a cop and they try to destroy his character over a little weed after killing him.

Ask again why they kneel you orange mother f’er.

Meanwhile the NRA is using this as an example of why people should be armed. To kill police at their door.

Your country won’t survive much longer.
Has the NRA ever clarified the rules for black people?
 

realibrad

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This article makes a pretty good case that this could go to murder over manslaughter.

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article218333735.html

The affidavit, written by Officer David L. Armstong of the Texas Rangers, is based on what Guyger told the officer happened. It says she “inserted a unique door key, with an electronic chip, into the door key hole. The door, which was slightly ajar prior to Guyger’s arrival, fully opened under the force of the key insertion.”

It then says that the door being opened alerted Jean to Guyger’s presence. It says Guyger described the apartment as being dark and she thought “she had encountered a burglar, which was described as a large silhouette, across the room in her apartment.”

Guyger drew her firearm, “gave verbal commands that were ignored by (Jean),” and then she fired two shots. Jean was shot once and died.

However, a search warrant written on Sept. 7 and signed by Judge Brandon Birmingham tells a different story. An officer within the police department told the Dallas Morning News that the search warrant was written before Guyger was interviewed.

And...

The arrest warrant also doesn’t include witness statements — which Lee Merritt, an attorney for the Jean family — pointed out on Monday.

Merritt said that two witnesses, who are sisters and residents of the apartment complex, gave statements that contradict the arrest affidavit.

“One happened to be in a quiet room reading a book so she was in the best position to hear things,” Merritt said. “She heard pounding at the door. The other one (witness) was in the living room (of her own apartment) watching TV. She also heard the same pounding at the door.”

The more things go on, the worse this looks. If the door was opened she would have had no reason to demand to be let in. Also, why was he at the door but then shot 10-15 feet away. Why was the search warrant written before she was interviewed? Not only does she look bad, but so does the investigation. Her alleged confusion is quickly becoming irrelevant.
 
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Darwin333

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The more things go on, the worse this looks. If the door was opened she would have had no reason to demand to be let in. Also, why was he at the door but then shot 10-15 feet away. Why was the search warrant written before she was interviewed? Not only does she look bad, but so does the investigation. Her alleged confusion is quickly becoming irrelevant.

It was treated as an officer-involved shooting and unions have "negotiated" that cops be given a certain amount of time, 3 days or more in some places, before they have to give a statement. They are also allowed to review all evidence and video before giving a statement. They might have "rushed" it once they figured out there was no possible way for them to spin it for the officer.
 

realibrad

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It was treated as an officer-involved shooting and unions have "negotiated" that cops be given a certain amount of time, 3 days or more in some places, before they have to give a statement. They are also allowed to review all evidence and video before giving a statement. They might have "rushed" it once they figured out there was no possible way for them to spin it for the officer.

Given the current state of things, that delay is likely to be a target and make her and the cops involved look even worse. From what I know this makes me upset, so I can only imagine his poor family right now. Hopefully they have good guidance and are not baited into anything.
 

Darwin333

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Given the current state of things, that delay is likely to be a target and make her and the cops involved look even worse. From what I know this makes me upset, so I can only imagine his poor family right now. Hopefully they have good guidance and are not baited into anything.

While I agree that it looks worse it isn't illegal so the only thing that matters is if it helps or hurts in court. I doubt it will hurt her but they were hoping that it could help her.
 

woolfe9998

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It was treated as an officer-involved shooting and unions have "negotiated" that cops be given a certain amount of time, 3 days or more in some places, before they have to give a statement. They are also allowed to review all evidence and video before giving a statement. They might have "rushed" it once they figured out there was no possible way for them to spin it for the officer.

Not sure why everyone seems to blame the unions for these perks. Unions represent their members, not the general public. They always ask for the moon. It's the city and county governments who gave it to them. They represent the general public interest. I think the ire here is misplaced.
 
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Be interesting to see if the different floors have different carpets or trim colors. That practice isn’t common or uncommon.
I legitimately don’t know the answer.
The whole shooting sounds really, really odd.
 
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woolfe9998

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Cop could have A.D.D. I have it, and believe me you can miss just about every last detail. I've walked into ladies rooms on at least 3 occasions in my life because I just didn't notice the sign on the door. Being tired gives everyone a little A.D.D. If you have A.D.D. and are tired on top of it, you're pretty much guaranteed to miss almost every relevant detail.

I'm really just playing devil's advocate here because I too think her story is strange. I'm just saying it is quite possible to miss things like this. Yet that doesn't explain what appear to be inconsistencies in her story.
 

FIVR

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Not sure why everyone seems to blame the unions for these perks. Unions represent their members, not the general public. They always ask for the moon. It's the city and county governments who gave it to them. They represent the general public interest. I think the ire here is misplaced.

Good point. Unions aren't to blame here, it's people like you who make excuses for cops at every turn and refuse to believe in scenarios where they do any wrong. It is people like you who vote in ridiculous protections for law enforcement officers which allow them these ridiculous contract stipulations that they enjoy in nearly every state in the union.

Thank you for pointing out where we should point our "ire", you cop-sucking douchebag.
 

woolfe9998

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Good point. Unions aren't to blame here, it's people like you who make excuses for cops at every turn and refuse to believe in scenarios where they do any wrong. It is people like you who vote in ridiculous protections for law enforcement officers which allow them these ridiculous contract stipulations that they enjoy in nearly every state in the union.

Thank you for pointing out where we should point our "ire", you cop-sucking douchebag.

No, "people like me" call things on the facts. Not based on pro or anti cop feelings. Other people around here have the exact same opinion on every one these cop cases we discuss. Something is amiss when assessments do not vary from one scenario to the next.

I will not apologize to anyone for being insufficiently tribalistic.
 
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Vic

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No, "people like me" call things on the facts. Not based on pro or anti cop feelings. Other people around here have the exact same opinion on every one these cop cases we discuss. Something is amiss when assessments do not vary from one scenario to the next.

I will not apologize to anyone for being insufficiently tribalistic.
My not based on any pro or anti cop feelings tell me that, if I unlawfully entered any premises and killed the lawful resident therein, under any circumstances, that I'd be spending the rest of my life behind bars. Assuming if, in Texas, I somehow managed to avoid death row.
So except for the fact they were an off-duty police officer when they committed this crime, why should this person be treated any differently under the law?
 

woolfe9998

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My not based on any pro or anti cop feelings tell me that, if I unlawfully entered any premises and killed the lawful resident therein, under any circumstances, that I'd be spending the rest of my life behind bars. Assuming if, in Texas, I somehow managed to avoid death row.
So except for the fact they were an off-duty police officer when they committed this crime, why should this person be treated any differently under the law?

What did I write in this thread which gave you the impression that you needed to ask me that question?
 

woolfe9998

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I'm just making sure the facts are clear. And those are the facts.

Except this:

why should this person be treated any differently under the law?

is really a rhetorical question based on an assumption about an opinion I might hold, which opinion I have not expressed in this thread.
 

HomerJS

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Except this:



is really a rhetorical question based on an assumption about an opinion I might hold, which opinion I have not expressed in this thread.
Maybe you can clarify and express it, because that's a pressing question. She was not on police business when she killed him so why does her occupation afford her extra protections? Was her apartment searched for drugs?
 
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