Dallas officer enters apartment she mistakes for her own, fatally shoots man inside

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Jhhnn

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The warrant was SPECIFICALLY for searching for drugs, you don't need a warrant to investigate a crime scene, that had already been done, the warrant to search for drugs was issued a day later.

They SHOULD have searched her home and she SHOULD have been in jail awaiting hearing. If it had been you and me we sure as fuck would be but perhaps you're one of those that think the police SHOULD be above the law even when off duty? God you must hate Nike by now, right? Burned your shoes yet?

Search warrants are written in such a way that they cover everything. If you know so much about the warrant, what else did it specify?
 

Josephus312

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Search warrants are written in such a way that they cover everything. If you know so much about the warrant, what else did it specify?

No, they are not. There has to be a specific reason for the warrant you dumb fuck. You can't just file for a warrant for suspicion of "whatever" or "everything" and this specific warrant was issued for a search for drugs because that was the suspicion stated. It should never have been issued and everyone who was involved here needs to go, the whole lot of them.

But that isn't even important, what is important that the victims apartment was searched under warrant after the crime scene investigation had finished but the perpetrators apartment was not AND she was not held on any charges even though she literally said that she killed a man in his own apartment.

You didn't answer me on whether you have burned your Nike's yet.
 
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Jhhnn

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No, they are not. There has to be a specific reason for the warrant you dumb fuck. You can't just file for a warrant for suspicion of "whatever" or "everything" and this specific warrant was issued for a search for drugs because that was the suspicion stated. It should never have been issued and everyone who was involved here needs to go, the whole lot of them.

But that isn't even important, what is important that the victims apartment was searched under warrant after the crime scene investigation had finished but the perpetrators apartment was not AND she was not held on any charges even though she literally said that she killed a man in his own apartment.

You didn't answer me on whether you have burned your Nike's yet.

Here's the warrant. Read it yourself-

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4853308-Amber-Guyger-Search-Warrant.html#document/p1
 
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realibrad

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You look to be correct.

"There is at said suspected place and premises the following item(s) constituting evidence of a criminal offense: Fired Cartridge Casings, fired projectiles, firearms, ballistic vest, keys, trace evidence such as blood, video surveillance system, any contraband, such as narcotics, and other items that may have been used in criminal offenses are located in the above described residence."
 

Josephus312

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You look to be correct.

"There is at said suspected place and premises the following item(s) constituting evidence of a criminal offense: Fired Cartridge Casings, fired projectiles, firearms, ballistic vest, keys, trace evidence such as blood, video surveillance system, any contraband, such as narcotics, and other items that may have been used in criminal offenses are located in the above described residence."

There was an initial investigative warrant that didn't include "contraband" and this is the second one that is a more thorough search to see what they can pin on the suspect to make it seem like he .... well you know what, fuck this shit.

It's also completely insane to search a victims apartment for contraband while not searching the perps apartment or even her person.

But who cares, you fuckers don't, you can do this until it fucking happens to one of you or your kids and then what... you think I'll stand up when it happens to you or your kids?

FUCK YOU!
 

Darwin333

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You speculate wildly. Imagine yourself in the best case scenario. I mean, you really blew it & killed your neighbor in his own apt. I mean, holy shit. What a colossal fuckup. When the investigating officers tell you you can leave, you go home, call a friend, pack a few things & hit the door because you really don't want to be there. The next morning you call the apt manager & tell him you need to break the lease. He thanks you for being considerate of all the other people in the building & asks how he can help because he doesn't need the aggravation of you staying. And poof, you're out.

There's nothing nefarious about that.

Why in the everliving world of fuck would they let me go home that night instead of at the absolute, and I mean bare minimum Barny Fife police work shit, they'd at least take me back to the station for a proper interview?
 

Josephus312

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Why in the everliving world of fuck would they let me go home that night instead of at the absolute, and I mean bare minimum Barny Fife police work shit, they'd at least take me back to the station for a proper interview?

Because he started out with this bullshit and now he can't bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

It's really fucking funny though... This little moron claiming to be against fascists is presenting himself as just that, an authoritarian fascist.

Next up he'll tell us he was just being sarcastic.
 

Josephus312

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While he's at it maybe he can find the results of her blood test which they still haven't released.

Even though it was reported that they were taken there's no record of it anywhere that I can find (and no, taking the samples is reported so that would be available to the public, not the results though).

Maybe they did that at the happy go fuck yourself she's a cop station wher Jhhnn and realibrad are doing double shifts?
 
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Even though it was reported that they were taken there's no record of it anywhere that I can find (and no, taking the samples is reported so that would be available to the public, not the results though).

Maybe they did that at the happy go fuck yourself she's a cop station wher Jhhnn and realibrad are doing double shifts?

The articles that I read at the time indicated that the blood sample was taken at the scene.
 

realibrad

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There was an initial investigative warrant that didn't include "contraband" and this is the second one that is a more thorough search to see what they can pin on the suspect to make it seem like he .... well you know what, fuck this shit.

It's also completely insane to search a victims apartment for contraband while not searching the perps apartment or even her person.

But who cares, you fuckers don't, you can do this until it fucking happens to one of you or your kids and then what... you think I'll stand up when it happens to you or your kids?

FUCK YOU!

Nice try. I do care and have expressed as much in this very thread before you came in. Further, your premise is that I and others wont care until it happens to one of us, and or our kids. That is also absurd and its just a signal for you to justify pretending to be outraged. Your role here is to attack everyone and stir up as much resentment as possible. You will go after a few on what is considered to be the Right, but, your main targets are those on the Left. It will manifest itself as things like "oh I'm sure you care, you care so much that you do x (which will be trivial) in response to horrible things like y (some horrific thing)".

I would imagine VG has already picked up on some of this, and I would imagine others will follow. This new account of yours will likely follow your previous and you will need to make a new one to try again.
 

SMOGZINN

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The articles that I read at the time indicated that the blood sample was taken at the scene.

There is considerable confusion about that, and the police are not clarifying the statement when asked. One statement says that her blood was taken at the scene, the other when she was first interviewed 24 hours later. The fact that they have so far refused to clarify it probably means it was 24 hours later, but I will give them a tiny amount of benefit to say it could also mean that the person asked didn't know and didn't want to make a false statement.
 

SMOGZINN

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Here is something that bothers me. According to the statement Guyger gave:

When 911 dispatch asked where she was, she returned to the front door to see the address and realized the apartment wasn't hers.

If you believed you were in your own apartment why would you return to the door to see where you were? It makes no sense, either she already knew she was not in her apartment and needed to see the number on the door to know what apartment she was actually in, or she thought she was in her own apartment and would have given them that number.
 

allisolm

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Did you find the warrant to search the suspected murderer's home? Can you post it please?

If they asked her could they search her apartment and she said 'yes', no warrant would be necessary. I don't know if that happened, but I don't know that it didn't.
 

SMOGZINN

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If they asked her could they search her apartment and she said 'yes', no warrant would be necessary. I don't know if that happened, but I don't know that it didn't.

I agree, and it might have happened. It is that they released the information on Jean and not Guyger that bothers me. Whether it was just an oversight or an intentionally attempt at character assassination, it is terrible optics and either way makes the DPD look unprofessional.
 

Jhhnn

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Because he started out with this bullshit and now he can't bring himself to admit that he was wrong.

It's really fucking funny though... This little moron claiming to be against fascists is presenting himself as just that, an authoritarian fascist.

Next up he'll tell us he was just being sarcastic.

I haven't defended the cops' decisions in all this. And, uhh, the only person shown to have been factually incorrect in all of this is you. Warrants are not issued in emergency response situations. There was only one search warrant & the inclusion of contraband is bog standard.
 

Jhhnn

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Here is something that bothers me. According to the statement Guyger gave:



If you believed you were in your own apartment why would you return to the door to see where you were? It makes no sense, either she already knew she was not in her apartment and needed to see the number on the door to know what apartment she was actually in, or she thought she was in her own apartment and would have given them that number.

Pertinent article-

Guyger, a four-year veteran, then entered the apartment, called 911 and started administering first aid to Jean. She turned on the lights while on the phone with 911, and only when asked for her address did she realize she was in the wrong apartment, she told police.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/us/dallas-police-officer-fired-botham-shem-jean/index.html

Read the whole thing.
 

Darwin333

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Even though it was reported that they were taken there's no record of it anywhere that I can find (and no, taking the samples is reported so that would be available to the public, not the results though).

Maybe they did that at the happy go fuck yourself she's a cop station wher Jhhnn and realibrad are doing double shifts?

I've also not found anything that mentions when they took the blood sample.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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I've read that, but my quote was taken directly from the her arrest warrant affidavit.

Those are not her words. I really don't understand why some people are trying to spin this into something it's apparently not. Guyger made a huge mistake & killed Jean in his own apartment. That's inexcusable. Barring escape on a technicality, she'll likely be convicted of manslaughter & do time. Her dismissal was structured so as not to provide any technicalities.
 

realibrad

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Those are not her words. I really don't understand why some people are trying to spin this into something it's apparently not. Guyger made a huge mistake & killed Jean in his own apartment. That's inexcusable. Barring escape on a technicality, she'll likely be convicted of manslaughter & do time. Her dismissal was structured so as not to provide any technicalities.

I will remember this post when you do the same. People want to believe that she is the sum of all bad things they think about cops. This is more than a mistake, because police are a problem and so she must be too.
 

Jhhnn

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I will remember this post when you do the same. People want to believe that she is the sum of all bad things they think about cops. This is more than a mistake, because police are a problem and so she must be too.

When I do the same what? Don't project your bullshit onto me.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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Here is something that bothers me. According to the statement Guyger gave:



If you believed you were in your own apartment why would you return to the door to see where you were? It makes no sense, either she already knew she was not in her apartment and needed to see the number on the door to know what apartment she was actually in, or she thought she was in her own apartment and would have given them that number.

I'm kind of curious as to why she called 911? Maybe it's just the cop movies I've seen but I always thought that using your police radio would get a much quicker response, both from the police and medical services. Maybe I'm wrong about the latter, although I don't know why if she specifically asks for an ambulance, but I know I'm not about the former.
 
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