Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital

[marincounty]

WTF is he pulling a gun on these people? Is that standard practice there?
Maybe only when you pull over black people.

This guy does not need to be re-trained, he needs to be fired.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: chess9
NO ONE gives you respect.

That's because no one deserves respect solely based on a badge.

No one deserves disrespect solely based on a badge either. I don't know about you, but I'm respectful to everyone unless they do something to lose my respect. That's just how I roll.

mugs are you a cop?

Anyways this dude is a douche.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
There seems to be some confusion ---
Moat`s the NFL player had his hazard lights on before crossing the intersection.

Powell the police officer did not see Moat`s until he crossed the intersection...

Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

Powell, watching traffic from a hidden spot, flipped on his lights and sirens

It still doesn't absolve him. There could've been another motorist barreling down the road and ended up in a spectacular accident. The cop was an asshole, no doubt. IMHO, he should've given them the ticket ASAP.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
There seems to be some confusion ---
Moat`s the NFL player had his hazard lights on before crossing the intersection.

Powell the police officer did not see Moat`s until he crossed the intersection...

Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

Powell, watching traffic from a hidden spot, flipped on his lights and sirens

It still doesn't absolve him. There could've been another motorist barreling down the road and ended up in a spectacular accident. The cop was an asshole, no doubt. IMHO, he should've given them the ticket ASAP.

Another cop apologist, you want to have his baby don't you?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
this is pretty bad. i wonder how much the events in oakland clouded his judgement? I think race is a big thing in this and he should lose his job. Not everybody is cut out to be a cop.

I don't think race was a factor at all. I think the officer acted out of anger because
1. The driver ignored him when he was behind him with his lights flashing
2. The driver was not cooperative (particularly when he was asked for proof of insurance)

Those two things clearly pissed the cop off, and I think that's why he reacted the way he did.

The driver didn't ignore the cop. If you notice, he has his hazard lights on. I assume he did that to signal compliance with the cop while finding a good place to pull over. It would be irresponsible for them to stop in the middle of a hospital road.

You assume that because you didn't read. He had his hazard lights on before he ran the red light.

Duh Mugs. Did you read it either?? Car with emergency flashers on, is speeding to hospital. What does the officer do? Preserve and Protect or Black while Driving?

 

[RKDaley]

Sad.
It's good the chief publicly apologized for the officer's behavior.
I don't think the cop should lose his job, though.

 

[cirrrocco]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

doesnt the report say, he waited at red light , turned hazard lights on and the other motorist asked him to go. so what is the issue here.

 

[sapiens74]

This one is simple

Cops job is to protect and serve, not ENFORCE,

He should lose his job and be sued in Civil Court

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: cirrrocco

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

doesnt the report say, he waited at red light , turned hazard lights on and the other motorist asked him to go. so what is the issue here.

OK. Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

are you insane? wait nevermind anyone who thinks because a guy was at a spears concert is a pedophile is.


no a cop should NOT treat everyone the same. look at the facts and then respond.

:laugh:

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: cirrrocco

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

doesnt the report say, he waited at red light , turned hazard lights on and the other motorist asked him to go. so what is the issue here.

OK. Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.
.

You are losing the battle......
In ct I sort of like it when you post because you show your true age....oh..about jr High School...
Reading comprehension is NOT your strang suit is it.....

what part of this did you NOYT comprehend --
Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

what don`t you understand about that......the ONLY nearby motorist.....SIGNALED for him to GO AHEAD.....

This isn`t something that is made up....yet you just don`t get it do you....

Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them. You might not but if I saw somebody stop in a hurry and they had there flashers on -- most people would let them go on...especially if it was near a hospital!!
Don`t try to talk your way out of it by say well what if it wasn`t near a hospital....

 

[ericlp]

Whaaa, Cry, Sob... Yeah a sad story. Too bad I guess. Sucks to be him. I wonder if this would have made it in the headlines if it was just a nobody like you or I...

I can kinda see the cops point of view when suspects open the doors and jumping out of the vehicle TRYING TO FLEE maybe I would draw my gun also. Ya know people make up all kinds of excuses to get out of ticket and I'm sure your mom or dad dieing is just as good as any other excuses. I dunno man...

Oh yeah HANG HIM, FIRE HIM, SUE HIM, put him on probation... Shit he's just doing his job. A bit harsh? Yeah, but with the respect the general public give cops I don't blame him.


You are losing the battle......
In ct I sort of like it when you post because you show your true age....oh..about jr High School...
Reading comprehension is NOT your strang suit is it.....

what part of this did you NOYT comprehend --
Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

what don`t you understand about that......the ONLY nearby motorist.....SIGNALED for him to GO AHEAD.....

This isn`t something that is made up....yet you just don`t get it do you....

Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them. You might not but if I saw somebody stop in a hurry and they had there flashers on -- most people would let them go on...especially if it was near a hospital!!
Don`t try to talk your way out of it by say well what if it wasn`t near a hospital....

Two sides to every story. NFL Player? BFD!

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: cirrrocco

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

doesnt the report say, he waited at red light , turned hazard lights on and the other motorist asked him to go. so what is the issue here.

OK. Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.
.

You are losing the battle......
In ct I sort of like it when you post because you show your true age....oh..about jr High School...
Reading comprehension is NOT your strang suit is it.....

what part of this did you NOYT comprehend --
Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

what don`t you understand about that......the ONLY nearby motorist.....SIGNALED for him to GO AHEAD.....

This isn`t something that is made up....yet you just don`t get it do you....

Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them. You might not but if I saw somebody stop in a hurry and they had there flashers on -- most people would let them go on...especially if it was near a hospital!!
Don`t try to talk your way out of it by say well what if it wasn`t near a hospital....

Not sure why you are obsessed with my age. If I was the cop, I still would've ticketed that guy. If he started panicking I would've done a background check on him. People lie to cops. That cop was an asshole, no doubt. But I feel that he should've given him the ticket anyway. BTW, pedisterians don't absolve other pedisterians of criminal behavior.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: ericlp
Whaaa, Cry, Sob... Yeah a sad story. Too bad I guess. Sucks to be him. I wonder if this would have made it in the headlines if it was just a nobody like you or I...

I can kinda see the cops point of view when suspects open the doors and jumping out of the vehicle TRYING TO FLEE maybe I would draw my gun also. Ya know people make up all kinds of excuses to get out of ticket and I'm sure your mom or dad dieing is just as good as any other excuses. I dunno man...

Oh yeah HANG HIM, FIRE HIM, SUE HIM, put him on probation... Shit he's just doing his job. A bit harsh? Yeah, but with the respect the general public give cops I don't blame him.


You are losing the battle......
In ct I sort of like it when you post because you show your true age....oh..about jr High School...
Reading comprehension is NOT your strang suit is it.....

what part of this did you NOYT comprehend --
Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

what don`t you understand about that......the ONLY nearby motorist.....SIGNALED for him to GO AHEAD.....

This isn`t something that is made up....yet you just don`t get it do you....

Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them. You might not but if I saw somebody stop in a hurry and they had there flashers on -- most people would let them go on...especially if it was near a hospital!!
Don`t try to talk your way out of it by say well what if it wasn`t near a hospital....

Two sides to every story. NFL Player? BFD!

Did you watch the video or read the article? After a nurse arrived and informed the police officer, he still wouldn't let him go.

What heppened here is obvious. The officer felt disrespected because the family thought more of their mother than his authority. So, he decided to be an asshole and punish them. As it turns out, it's not the role of police to punish people. He overstepped his bounds, whether he broke a law or not. He should be fired, and made an example of.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: cirrrocco

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

doesnt the report say, he waited at red light , turned hazard lights on and the other motorist asked him to go. so what is the issue here.

OK. Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.
.

You are losing the battle......
In ct I sort of like it when you post because you show your true age....oh..about jr High School...
Reading comprehension is NOT your strang suit is it.....

what part of this did you NOYT comprehend --
Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

what don`t you understand about that......the ONLY nearby motorist.....SIGNALED for him to GO AHEAD.....

This isn`t something that is made up....yet you just don`t get it do you....

Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them. You might not but if I saw somebody stop in a hurry and they had there flashers on -- most people would let them go on...especially if it was near a hospital!!
Don`t try to talk your way out of it by say well what if it wasn`t near a hospital....

Not sure why you are obsessed with my age. If I was the cop, I still would've ticketed that guy. If he started panicking I would've done a background check on him. People lie to cops. That cop was an asshole, no doubt. But I feel that he should've given him the ticket anyway. BTW, pedisterians don't absolve other pedisterians of criminal behavior.

There are more important things in this world than traffic laws. Most people, most cops even, acknowledge that.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: cirrrocco

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

This would be a non-story if every cop treated everyone the same. This guy doesn't deserve special treatment because of what was happening to someone else. He ran a red light and could've easily killed or injured someone. The cop talked too damn much, IMHO.

doesnt the report say, he waited at red light , turned hazard lights on and the other motorist asked him to go. so what is the issue here.

OK. Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.
.

You are losing the battle......
In ct I sort of like it when you post because you show your true age....oh..about jr High School...
Reading comprehension is NOT your strang suit is it.....

what part of this did you NOYT comprehend --
Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through.

what don`t you understand about that......the ONLY nearby motorist.....SIGNALED for him to GO AHEAD.....

This isn`t something that is made up....yet you just don`t get it do you....

Say you have a green light but somebody wants to cross the road. Do you let them go? No, because somebody else may not see that individual and run over them. You might not but if I saw somebody stop in a hurry and they had there flashers on -- most people would let them go on...especially if it was near a hospital!!
Don`t try to talk your way out of it by say well what if it wasn`t near a hospital....

Not sure why you are obsessed with my age. If I was the cop, I still would've ticketed that guy. If he started panicking I would've done a background check on him. People lie to cops. That cop was an asshole, no doubt. But I feel that he should've given him the ticket anyway. BTW, pedisterians don't absolve other pedisterians of criminal behavior.

There are more important things in this world than traffic laws. Most people, most cops even, acknowledge that.

So, in your opinion, it's OK to break the law every once in a while? BTW, do you even realize why they had a press conference? Because he's a football player. If it was a regular guy, the police would've been backing their own.

 

[n yusef]

Originally posted by: Dari
So, in your opinion, it's OK to break the law every once in a while? BTW, do you even realize why they had a press conference? Because he's a football player. If it was a regular guy, the police would've been backing their own.

Yes. It is my opinion that the spirit of the law is more important than the letter, and even then, mitigating circumstances can justify actions that would ordinarily be wrong.

Honestly, I don't think about the legality of my actions unless I could get caught. I act according to morals, which usually but not always coincide with the law.

EDIT: I realize that part of the reason this is news-worthy is because it involves an NFL player. To that I say, "so what?" Police misconduct is a big deal. Any way we can discuss it is good.

 

[Mokmo418]

I am amazed by how well the NFL player acted in all this...
I am amazed on how bad the cop acted in all this...

I mean, hospital staff came to the parking to tell the officer exactly what was happening inside (article doesn't mention that by the time the nurse went to see him, the mom-in-law had already been code-blue twice). He couldn't just let them go, keep writing the ticket and go up there to have it signed ? If a family member was dying, i would expect a police officer make my life not easier, but not worse. So the registration is not in the car, big deal, you know damn well you can look it up on your computer. It's just one test to show the guy didn't steal the truck.

 

[Duwelon]

This cop should be fired. He's obviously a power tripping little douchebag who doesn't have any reason to be wearing a badge. Can him. He's young, he'll recover and likely the best thing you can possibly do for him is to knock him on his ass.

 

[alphatarget1]

The actions taking by this cop and similar incidents are one of the reasons why the public distrusts the police so much.

Unless the police is held to the same standard as ordinary citizens are, they don't deserve the respect from us. Maybe he can be a mall cop or rent-a-cop instead. The best thing his supervisors can do is to fire him, publicly humiliate him for the hardships he has caused the Moatses.This cop also needs to be barred from being employed in law enforcement.

Maybe he should be barred from seeing his loved ones for one last time.

 

[alphatarget1]

DP

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: mugs
The officer screwed up, that much is clear. I don't think it's the sort of screw-up that should cost someone their job though.

A screw up is when you accidentally trip over the power cable and shutting down the server. This was a very deliberate act he did, and it probably wasn't his first.

 

[NeoV]

jesus H christ some of you are impossible to reason with.

Moats, at no point during the process, identified himself as an NFL player. Stop saying 'it's only because he's an NFL player' - if this happened to anyone, it's a shame. For all of you pro-athlete haters - ask yourself if you would have handled yourself as well as Moats did - I know I wouldn't have.

For all of you cop-apologists - He actually did stop at the red light, with his hazard lights flashing - checked for traffic - then went through - the cop was - and I love cops that spend time doing this - hidden from the sight to try and catch speeding cars/traffic violators.

The car didn't pull over in a field, and people didn't run for the hills, or, as one idiot phrased it - flee the scene - they went into the hospital. Is it really that hard to comprehend?


This cop, quite frankly - doesn't have the common sense to be in a position of authority.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: chess9
NO ONE gives you respect.

That's because no one deserves respect solely based on a badge.

The badge, like a judge's robe, is a symbol of our legal system. If you don't respect the symbols of our legal system, then you won't respect our legal system. When you see a badge, do as you are told, and argue later with the judge in the robe. Would you disrespect a judge? He can put you in jail too.

But, I was thinking MAINLY about the typical young male, who will give cops a complete ration of shit after they've been caught doing 80 in a 35 mph zone. Maybe you need to sit in traffic court and listen to the stories? LOL! IQs among young males seem to be at ankle levels these days.

Everyone deserves respect, but some people you can safely ignore. A police officer isn't one of them.

-Robert

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: NeoV
jesus H christ some of you are impossible to reason with.

Moats, at no point during the process, identified himself as an NFL player. Stop saying 'it's only because he's an NFL player'

your angsty bitterness is misdirected. it's more newsworthy to news agencies because he's an NFL player. if you don't like it, call the news agencies and whine to them for reporting it.