damn racist neighbor has me royally pissed off!!! UPDATED

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Ness

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

Which is exactly why he should have called the guy a white-trash redneck son of a bitch.


If he can name call, so can you.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
it's not called free speech, it's called

hate speech

And hate speech is protected speech. I'm sure there is something or somebody YOU hate and have spoken out about.

Folks, speech is speech. If we ban what offends us, we'll soon have none at all.
 

DougK62

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That may not be the first time someone called them a "n!gger", and it no doubt won't be the last. I hope you talked to the kids about it and told their parents the story.

 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

ever hear of "fighting words"? the supreme court has ruled that they're are limits to free speech. i believe that this fits the criteria as it was face-to-face and the words were likely to lead to a breach of the peace (as evidenced by mcveighs conversation with the neighbor).

edit: look up chaplinsky vs new hampshire
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

ever hear of "fighting words"? the supreme court has ruled that they're are limits to free speech. i believe that this fits the criteria as it was face-to-face and the words were likely to lead to a breach of the peace (as evidenced by mcveighs conversation with the neighbor).

Anything can be "fighting words" if said to the wrong person at the wrong time. Willfully inciting a riot is one thing, insulting people is another.

Hell, even the ACLU gets it and has defended the KKK's freedom of speech.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
it's not called hate speech, it's called

free speech

Fixed. Really, why do you think the founding father's wrote in a guarantee of freedom of speech? Was it to protect your right to say "It's raining outside", or to protect your right to say something highly unpopular?
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

ever hear of "fighting words"? the supreme court has ruled that they're are limits to free speech. i believe that this fits the criteria as it was face-to-face and the words were likely to lead to a breach of the peace (as evidenced by mcveighs conversation with the neighbor).

edit: look up chaplinsky vs new hampshire

i was just gonna say that. The issue of "fighting words" in the context or racial slurs has been brought up by the supreme court and it was ruled 5 to 2 that IT IS NOT PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT


linkie
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
it's not called free speech, it's called

hate speech

Oh now you're going to start telling me who I can and cannot hate?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

ever hear of "fighting words"? the supreme court has ruled that they're are limits to free speech. i believe that this fits the criteria as it was face-to-face and the words were likely to lead to a breach of the peace (as evidenced by mcveighs conversation with the neighbor).

edit: look up chaplinsky vs new hampshire

i was just gonna say that. The issue of "fighting words" in the context or racial slurs has been brought up by the supreme court and it was ruled 5 to 2 that IT IS NOT PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT


linkie

How is a grown man saying the N word to children "fighting words?" Are the children going to attack him?

Sorry, but this doesn't pass the smell test.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Yaotl
well, there are some laws making cussing in public illegal. this might be considered that.
Find me one.

Profanity in public is sometimes not protected depending on the state.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: Yaotl
well, there are some laws making cussing in public illegal. this might be considered that.
Find me one.

I've had friends get tickets for it. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Good thing everyone always takes everything someone else says on here in the negative way. I've never heard of it, I wanted to read a law for myself.


Chances are, if anyone wanted to protest any law that forced them to pay a fine for cursing, they could beat it. Look at that guy that just beat his ticket for giving someone the finger.

Now why would anyone waste their time and money to appeal something to the fed courts? It would cost $$$ when they can just get the charges dismissed on a local level. I'm sure you'd pay the thousands of dollars it would cost to fight a case all the way to the USSC. Fact is SOME people have done that and the Feds or their state supreme court has agreed that it was protected. However, it hasn't been done in all states and is actually a law in most.

Called disorderly conduct down here.
 

Amused

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I know how to end this VERY quick.

Call 911 and tell them your neighbor just called someone the N word. Then watch exactly nothing happen.

You can pull up all the obscure cases of someone insulting a cop that you want. It doesn't apply here.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Amused
I know how to end this VERY quick.

Call 911 and tell them your neighbor just called someone the N word. Then watch exactly nothing happen.

You can pull up all the obscure cases of someone insulting a cop that you want. It doesn't apply here.

You're simply not right here. Profanity/racist speech, etc is disorderly conduct in many states. I was shocked myself after I did research on it. The cussing canoeist is one example of that. Sure, most of the time it is reversed, or someone is never charged with it, but it still exists.

 

NeoPTLD

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

In some cities, there is a local ordinance prohibiting the use of profanity on public land. You need to realize laws are more complex than "but its the first amendment"
 

NeoPTLD

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If blacks resent being called Nigg**s so much, why do they call each other that?


 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Originally posted by: Modeps
Ever hear of free speech? There's no law against ignorance.

In some cities, there is a local ordinance prohibiting the use of profanity on public land. You need to realize laws are more complex than "but its the first amendment"

omg. people love to read the whole thread.
 

shimsham

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just let the kids play as normal, and the next time he does it, call the law and tell them the guy is freaking out on the kids. while the cops wont do anything, im sure theyll look down on it, and the guy will stop since no one likes the cops coming to their house no matter how backwards and ignorant they may be.
 

Darkstar757

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Originally posted by: mcveigh
Last night, my POS neighbor called the 2 black kids who were playing with my kids "awesome people" to their face, I went over to his door when they told me and he says they're making to much noise playing in the yard between our two places.(it was 6:30, and they were playing soccer)
we had words, and he asks me if " I want to settle this outside, if so he'll get his shoes on and come out" so I said come on out. of course he wouldn't.

my kids are 6 and 8 and white, their were 2 black kids 5 and 7 ( i think ) and a Filipino friend who's also 6. all very well behaved kids. I was so mad I was shaking, I wanted to tear him apart so badly :|

anyone know if there are any laws against making racial slurs in Florida?

Thats so sad. Welcome to life in the USA as a black male. However all you should do is continue to teach your childern that what he said is wrong etc. Dont confront his stupidity. Just remember his comments when you are confronted with people who say racism in America doesnt exsist.

 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
If blacks resent being called Nigg**s so much, why do they call each other that?

Shut up cracka...

Why do some women call their women friends bitches? (Wife's nickname for one of her closest friends)

Bottom line is only insult your friends, neighbors, relatives and other members on anonamous internet forums. Don't call strangers names.

That being said. I hope the guy's sister marries a large African male named Mandingo or something and she starts wearing red, green and black.
 
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