You say you want the blue pill but you keep coming back for more of the red. Which is it going to be? If you want me to respond to this post then you will have to clarify what you mean. (and in language even a dummy can understand)
You say you want the blue pill but you keep coming back for more of the red. Which is it going to be? If you want me to respond to this post then you will have to clarify what you mean. (and in language even a dummy can understand)Wait... Do you disagree? If so, Then Stop It!
Also,
Wait again... did you feel something about my post? Then stop out, you're not allowed (your rules, not mine).
Few in here really want to learn anything. Most are here to impose their own philosophy by force of word, and screw anyone who might dissent. And if you DO disagree with their thinking they'll try to slime you, like some teeny lashing out on social media.Dr. Feel.
You know. For far longer than 10 years I've stated what a bag full of bs you are. Others are finally beginning to see the light.Few in here really want to learn anything. Most are here to impose their own philosophy by force of word, and screw anyone who might dissent. And if you DO disagree with their thinking they'll try to slime you, like some teeny lashing out on social media.
Sadly that is how it works in P&N.
So is there something that Dr. Feels can help you understand or did you just come to shit on emotions. It's quite to be expected that people who hate themselves are not very fond of them.
You say you want the blue pill but you keep coming back for more of the red. Which is it going to be? If you want me to respond to this post then you will have to clarify what you mean. (and in language even a dummy can understand)
Few in here really want to learn anything. Most are here to impose their own philosophy by force of word, and screw anyone who might dissent. And if you DO disagree with their thinking they'll try to slime you, like some teeny lashing out on social media.
Sadly that is how it works in P&N.
So is there something that Dr. Feels can help you understand or did you just come to shit on emotions. It's quite to be expected that people who hate themselves are not very fond of them.
No but I laughed in an Oh my God save me sort of way. That other post, ask somebody else if it was mean. You know me. I don't care.I keep coming back for more because I amuse myself when commenting to you. Have I mentioned how much I enjoy laughing? I've decided we're friends as much as anyone can be friends that talk on a political forum and don't understand each other. No, you don't understand me you just think you do. Thinkin' isn't in fact knowing Moonbeam, don't make me tell you again (but I will at least 500 more times if it strikes my fancy). So to answer your question... Blue Blue Blue Blue Blue with a critical/humorous eye on the Red. <--- Awesome!
Dummy explanation. I don't like you hinting that you might not find me beautiful! Gross! And, you're the one suggesting feelings are a myth, a waste of time, stupid and a lie. Therefore, you must feel nothing about anything I say. Too bad really... I spin Gold from time to time, feels might come in handy. Like when I'm humorous, you laugh. Please tell me you get to laugh still with all your new found reality rattling around in your head. You do, right? And just like I've told the very few people who try to hurt me by pretending not to find me funny... Impossible! <--- I win 98.7½% of the time. Those are difficult odds to withstand. Buckle up mister, a laugh (or chuckle) may erupt from your person without warning at any moment. Sorry?
Did I explain myself well enough?
You know. For far longer than 10 years I've stated what a bag full of bs you are. Others are finally beginning to see the light.
Finally. Your "hate" schlock isn't working any more, Moonpie.
No but I laughed in an Oh my God save me sort of way. That other post ask somebody else if it was mean. You know me. I don't care.
Nice, in my opinion and causality, as in we create what we fear, treatment of the WW1 defeated Germans like you mentioned, to becoming what we fear, our new brown shirt liberals, the new purity priests, exterminators of deplorables.We can tell, the state of our Democracy is indicative of just how vast your prison has grown.
The insanity of the human condition has reached a critical mass where many are openly, publicly, advocating for vengeance on their political opponents, AND against those who call for restoring order. After all, Agent keeps reminding us that those are the worst kind of "traitors". Agent's hatred, filled with labels and racism, is infectious. Normally I want to avoid speaking directly of other members, but that appears to be his sole mission here.
Do you even remember the topic at hand? Public messaging. Your newfound cohorts want the message to be "with us or against us". They have internalized a Bush'ism for their wanton march to war. To declare enemy of anyone not already standing behind them with pitchforks. Theirs is a message that the French Revolution has already begun. Let that sink in. The posters here have not shrunk from calling for death.
Moonbeam may not be winning any prizes in communication, but there are truths in what he means to say. My take on it involves causality.
Hug a Nazi? Not exactly. But who here is ignorant of European history and World War 1? That disaster lead them straight into World War 2. The intent to punish Germany lead them to punishing others. How many millions could have been saved if a defeated Germany was instead embraced to avoid the failure of the Wiemar Republic?
I mentioned earlier that hate is infectious. What Democratic value is there in stereotyping others? Not only is it wrong but it hardens those who would not otherwise oppose you. If a majority is independent, but you treat them as the enemy... they BECOME the enemy. Such a path does not yield civil discourse. But as those posters make abundantly clear, they want to take lives, not save them.
Are you in good company?
Younigue: First off, people would have to value what you propose to teach.
M: That was not the context. I quoted what TLC said in an earlier post back at him without the quotes. It wasn't me who suggested that people came to contest not to learn implying, I thought that he thought learning a better reason. Then He called me Dr. Feels, which I took to be intended to make fun of me. I simply pointed out to two things he said that seemed to be in contradiction, that he might actually be guilty of what he had just suggested was an inferior mode of operation.
Y: Second off, you impose your philosophy as well and I have seen you lash out.
M: I am totally innocent. I simply radiate my holy light on the word and fuck anybody who doesn't get it. I don't give two figs what they think because I've already died on the cross and been resurrected. I'm in heaven and I invite you to join me. All you have to do is lose those fucking feet of clay. You're not getting mud on my golden floors and the maid only gets paid once a week to lick them clean. But, out of morbid curiosity, what size halo do you think you might wear?
Y: Third off, just because people don't wake up as you would have them do does not mean they hate themselves.
M: It does too. I'm the one who is God you blinking peon. Fucking listen up.
Now as far as humor goes, I never laugh. Saving the world is very very serious business. You can ask my buddy Mulla Nasrudin about that. And besides, it's hard to laugh around people who hate themselves because they always think you're laughing at them. Trust me on that, remembering who I am. It's the God's honest truth.
Don't worry. I have a guaranteed means of stabilizing your condition. The first is a mantra; "This too will pass" Then just continue to argue with me. Your being right will pass because I will never admit to being wrong because I never am. Good night for now, I'm off to watch some TV.You made me laugh... about knowing you and you not caring. Good stuff! Nailed it!
Mean? *cartoon double take* WHAAA.....? <--- That's supposed to be the word what but I was too incredulous to finish. Come now, I was just a wee bit sarcastic. I've no need of involving any one else in our... would it be too far fetched to call it... extremely pleasant exchange(?).
Now to the most important thing you just said... Save you? From little Ol' me? *eyes fluttering, expressing innocence* Well I do declare! Do you often laugh when asking for help? It seems a bit of a mixed message. God could just think you're joshing it. If you want to believe in my God, it has a great sense of humor! Other people's God, not so much. You're taking a risk, just sayin'.
I should mention... I'm on a bit of a roll/tear tonite because for the 10 millionth time in 18 years with my husband he was forced to admit I was right about something. It always pains him and he never grows accustomed to it. I always feel compelled to do my awkwardly (involves flailing, bumbling and bouncing off things) giddy victory dance and it leaves me feeling pumped for hours. I'm just Super right tonight. Don't blame me, blame my husband he was the one goin' around bein' all wrong and s*it.
Don't worry. I have a guaranteed means of stabilizing your condition. The first is a mantra; "This too will pass" Then just continue to argue with me. Your being right will pass because I will never admit to being wrong because I never am. Good night for now, I'm off to watch some TV.
But you mentioned Gerrymandering which is possible only in the house of representatives.
I'll take your point, but just remember it was you who started your previous reply by flatly and without qualification declaring that I am the problem, so my negative reaction should not surprise you so much.
Don't worry. I have a guaranteed means of stabilizing your condition. The first is a mantra; "This too will pass" Then just continue to argue with me. Your being right will pass because I will never admit to being wrong because I never am. Good night for now, I'm off to watch some TV.
Are you in good company?
You know. For far longer than 10 years I've stated what a bag full of bs you are. Others are finally beginning to see the light.
Finally. Your "hate" schlock isn't working any more, Moonpie.
We can tell, the state of our Democracy is indicative of just how vast your prison has grown.
The insanity of the human condition has reached a critical mass where many are openly, publicly, advocating for vengeance on their political opponents, AND against those who call for restoring order. After all, Agent keeps reminding us that those are the worst kind of "traitors". Agent's hatred, filled with labels and racism, is infectious. Normally I want to avoid speaking directly of other members, but that appears to be his sole mission here.
Do you even remember the topic at hand? Public messaging. Your newfound cohorts want the message to be "with us or against us". They have internalized a Bush'ism for their wanton march to war. To declare enemy of anyone not already standing behind them with pitchforks. Theirs is a message that the French Revolution has already begun. Let that sink in. The posters here have not shrunk from calling for death.
Moonbeam may not be winning any prizes in communication, but there are truths in what he means to say. My take on it involves causality.
Hug a Nazi? Not exactly. But who here is ignorant of European history and World War 1? That disaster lead them straight into World War 2. The intent to punish Germany lead them to punishing others. How many millions could have been saved if a defeated Germany was instead embraced to avoid the failure of the Wiemar Republic?
I mentioned earlier that hate is infectious. What Democratic value is there in stereotyping others? Not only is it wrong but it hardens those who would not otherwise oppose you. If a majority is independent, but you treat them as the enemy... they BECOME the enemy. Such a path does not yield civil discourse. But as those posters make abundantly clear, they want to take lives, not save them.
Are you in good company?
I missed this post earlier and find it very interesting and it will probably be even more so when I find out what emergent behavior and supervenience are. I will look them up. I read up a bit on E.O. Wilson too because I didn't know the name but I remember reading about the ant man long ago and being impressed about something or other he said.Personally speaking, Moonbeam, my issue with you is that you've fallen into a particularly toxic form of postmodernism that pushes the idea of cultural relativity far beyond its applicable range.
Just because the universe does not include Platonic moral facts does not mean there is no such thing as morality. You don't seem to understand the concept of emergent behavior, or supervenience.
By analogy: what is a molecule of glucose? 12 hydrogens and 6 each carbons and oxygens, arranged just so. Where, in the atoms individually, is the "glucose-ness?" Nowhere. It comes from the particular arrangement of its constituents.
Similarly, morality is something you get when intelligent, social animals congregate. Get it now?
It's just really sad that when you finally try to reach out to those who say they aren't among those who hate, you find that they are just as big of liars and haters as all the rest. Bigger liars, actually, since what they claim to represent is supposedly so much purer, cleaner, and more empathetic than the "other side." How fucking pathetic, really, such disgusting hateful bullshit.
I guess this is where I say goodbye.
I missed this post earlier and find it very interesting and it will probably be even more so when I find out what emergent behavior and supervenience are. I will look them up. I read up a bit on E.O. Wilson too because I didn't know the name but I remember reading about the ant man long ago and being impressed about something or other he said.
I will have to save any critique I might have with the emergent and the super thingi and deal now only with the cultural relativity one. I don't think real morality is relative nor would I call it absolute in the sense it can be codified. I think morality is the action that flows from a God conscious state. But those are only words.
When I was young I set out to prove that God exists because I wanted to prove that the good exists and I wanted to do that to provide a logical force as to why people should be moral. I did that because I could not bear to witness the suffering and deaths of millions and millions of people due to evil in the world. So many seen not to care they are evil. And then there is the tragic death of so many, so many children, for example, who die before they even get to live. I failed and I knew I would suffer endlessly and never be happy. I was forced to abandon my deepest dreams, by longed for goals and surrender to a live in hell, to live as a giant wound. The universe is cold benign and empty, indifferent to our joys or our suffering. We are nothing but dust in the wind. I died within. Everything I had that could be taken was taken, and in a single moment I awoke in my room to the sound of the wind. I knew everything. When everything you have that supports your ego disappears, a different self appears. That self is the Lover. It's God it's good, it's all ones deepest longing and dreams It is the love of being,
So morality is emergent to me in the sense that it is what remains when all notions or formulae of morality die. It is what is when the ego isn't. So for me it isn't exactly what you get when intelligent, social animals congregate. It is what you get when evolution operates on social animals over millions of years. It is what a human is genetically before the programming is written and after it is erased. It is who we are and who we have always been. We are all the love of God even if we do not know it. That is why it is wrong to hate the other. Hate the program if you must and if you are free of one yourself, but do not hate the essential being, the God in everyone. You hate the monster but the monster is a monster because he can't find and doesn't know about his true self. So we see the monster but not the god within. We are all living in that hell of separation. Why add to it?
You know. For far longer than 10 years I've stated what a bag full of bs you are. Others are finally beginning to see the light.
Finally. Your "hate" schlock isn't working any more, Moonpie.
Oh like you're one to talk. You're not fit to tie his shoes, even if they are hemp sandals. Compared to you he's fuckin' E. O. Wilson.
If humans were inherently moral, then homocide/crime rates wouldn't have only dropped over the course of history. It's almost as if we used our intelligence to progressively adopt smarter programs for living.