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Younigue

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There is no Hitler and there are no Jews. These are projections of the assumptions we hold. There are only people who have been programmed or deprogrammed. We can all be programmed and deprogrammed. We are all the same but that is clear only to those in the null state. To the programmed their programming is their treasure. Few want to abandon it, so we spend our lives trying to get the other to knock it off our shoulder. If you aren't free yourself, why not make everybody else miserable. Wouldn't that be your definition of deplorable? For me it is the inescapable price one pays for holding on to conditioning and if you can't let go why would you blame others who also can't? A program is an altered reality imposed on children before they can even think, much less defend themselves. It's tortured soul you seek to condemn with more and more condemnation, the very thing that programmed them in the first place. It is quite natural for you to do that because the face of the tortured is pride. Monsters appear to love themselves. I know they don't and I know it viscerally. You seek to convince me otherwise, but you can't take anything from a null state. I already lost enough of what could be taken from me to experience a transformation. I found the soured of the love I was seeking. I back to being a nobody now. I make some posts on Nanotech and they fly off God knows where.

Did you come to dismiss and argue or to seek understanding?
But Moonbeam, so many of us are telling you we distrust your qualifications to teach and mold us. Your confidence alone isn't the seller you think it is. This is what I can assure you of... most of us who engage you in these floaty pseudo-cognitive conversations are convinced of your conviction.
 
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agent00f

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There is no Hitler and there are no Jews. These are projections of the assumptions we hold. There are only people who have been programmed or deprogrammed. We can all be programmed and deprogrammed. We are all the same but that is clear only to those in the null state. To the programmed their programming is their treasure. Few want to abandon it, so we spend our lives trying to get the other to knock it off our shoulder. If you aren't free yourself, why not make everybody else miserable. Wouldn't that be your definition of deplorable? For me it is the inescapable price one pays for holding on to conditioning and if you can't let go why would you blame others who also can't? A program is an altered reality imposed on children before they can even think, much less defend themselves. It's tortured soul you seek to condemn with more and more condemnation, the very thing that programmed them in the first place. It is quite natural for you to do that because the face of the tortured is pride. Monsters appear to love themselves. I know they don't and I know it viscerally. You seek to convince me otherwise, but you can't take anything from a null state. I already lost enough of what could be taken from me to experience a transformation. I found the soured of the love I was seeking. I back to being a nobody now. I make some posts on Nanotech and they fly off God knows where.

Did you come to dismiss and argue or to seek understanding?

There's no need for long winded mystical humble-bragging to shill for your new political allies, just simplify it like them and proclaim "we're all going to die someday" as the solution to healthcare in this world. The desire to live well is simply a program that the man imposes on us all. I'm sure they'll still pretend you're as wise as they are.

But Moonbeam, so many of us are telling you we distrust your qualifications to teach and mold us. Your confidence alone isn't the seller you think it is. This is what I can assure you of... most of us who engage you in these floaty pseudo-cognitive conversations are convinced of your conviction.

At heart Moonbeam's not so different to his religious peers like creationists who also pretend a good display of conviction is what matters most.
 

Moonbeam

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You've officially lost your shit, Moonbeam.
That is very kind of you to pay me such a complement, but sadly you don't have the official capacity to authenticate it. Know, though, that losing your shit is the goal my brown eyed butterfly swan. Oh my Beloved. Everywhere I look it appears to be Thou.

Now I really have to say bye so no more complements please. I like to thank people who say nice things about me.
 

agent00f

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That is very kind of you to pay me such a complement, but sadly you don't have the official capacity to authenticate it. Know, though, that losing your shit is the goal my brown eyed butterfly swan. Oh my Beloved. Everywhere I look it appears to be Thou.

Now I really have to say bye so no more complements please. I like to thank people who say nice things about me.

Just heads up that acting particularly proud of shilling for race realists didn't work for your peers either.
 

Moonbeam

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But Moonbeam, so many of us are telling you we distrust your qualifications to teach and mold us. Your confidence alone isn't the seller you think it is. This is what I can assure you of... most of us who engage you in these floaty pseudo-cognitive conversations are convinced of your conviction.
Well, I am telling you why you can't trust anybody and my certainty about that isn't going to change just because you say 'I cant trust what you say, Moonbeam'. How will you deal with trust issues if you don't experience them? I think the real problem is that fact that you can't trust me doesn't matter to me because I knew that from the beginning. What you trust or don't trust matters not to me because I trust that my intention is to help you see that mistrust is a psychological prison. I see that prison and I know that if I could really trust I wouldn't be in it. Distrust is 1984. Everything is upside down and inside out. A revolution is perspective turns that all around. I appreciate deeply your reaching out to me this way. There isn't anything to worry about. All of our fears have already happened. Imagine if we could trust that.
 

Younigue

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Well, I am telling you why you can't trust anybody and my certainty about that isn't going to change just because you say 'I cant trust what you say, Moonbeam'. How will you deal with trust issues if you don't experience them? I think the real problem is that fact that you can't trust me doesn't matter to me because I knew that from the beginning. What you trust or don't trust matters not to me because I trust that my intention is to help you see that mistrust is a psychological prison. I see that prison and I know that if I could really trust I wouldn't be in it. Distrust is 1984. Everything is upside down and inside out. A revolution is perspective turns that all around. I appreciate deeply your reaching out to me this way. There isn't anything to worry about. All of our fears have already happened. Imagine if we could trust that.

I just Really hope that your gift includes being able to move like Neo do. If not... Sooo not worth it.
If I were guaranteed the ability to run on walls and ceilings, I'd consider your philosophy... I meeean, who wouldn't? I guess what I'm saying is, it's the Pod Life for me if I can't dodge bullets. Ya know?

What year is it really? And do we know what year the computers took over?

*Edit: To clarify since I've seen no evidence that you even dabble in humor... I'm just playin'.
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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Oh, that's a bunch of bullshit too. There is nothing "hellish" about wanting people to learn a lesson, and if the only way they learn it is to suffer what they inflict on others, so be it. They made their choice, and one way or another they will pay the price for it.
 

Moonbeam

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I just Really hope that your gift includes being able to move like Neo do. If not... Sooo not worth it.
If I were guaranteed the ability to run on walls and ceilings, I'd consider your philosophy... I meeean, who wouldn't? I guess what I'm saying is, it's the Pod Life for me if I can't dodge bullets. Ya know?

What year is it really? And do we know what year the computers took over?

*Edit: To clarify since I've seen no evidence that you even dabble in humor... I'm just playin'.
What you call a gift is only a shift in perspective, as shift in conscious awareness. In one minute I was resigned to the fact that I would live out my life in a state of abject hopelessness and incredible anguish and suffering. A second later I understood something for which there are no words and all of that changed. I went from deep suffering to peace of mind. The God I had sought and lost was simply my own monkey joy of being. All I am doing is offering you a banana.

The matrix is an analogy of that state. The ability to walk on walls and ceilings is simply the ability to swing by your tail. The ability to stop bullets is simply the awareness that we fear them because we repress the memory of the pain of having already been hit. We are all physically vulnerable but we don't need to be mentally vulnerable too. And don't forget the pod can always be flushed. Just saying.....
 

Younigue

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What you call a gift is only a shift in perspective, as shift in conscious awareness. In one minute I was resigned to the fact that I would live out my life in a state of abject hopelessness and incredible anguish and suffering. A second later I understood something for which there are no words and all of that changed. I went from deep suffering to peace of mind. The God I had sought and lost was simply my own monkey joy of being. All I am doing is offering you a banana.

The matrix is an analogy of that state. The ability to walk on walls and ceilings is simply the ability to swing by your tail. The ability to stop bullets is simply the awareness that we fear them because we repress the memory of the pain of having already been hit. We are all physically vulnerable but we don't need to be mentally vulnerable too. And don't forget the pod can always be flushed. Just saying.....

Flush me and I'm shoving that red pill up where the sun don't shine. Then I'm taking the blue pill and scrambling at high speed up all those Pods just to get to my Pod. <--- it would lack grace 'cause ya know, I rejected the gift/shift.

And hey, stop talking about my tail. Pretty sure I had it removed during one of my many surgeries. They didn't even ask if they could, they just did it. I was all like, WHAT THE...?!

If I am repressing a memory of being shot... GoodOn Me! The brain is a many splendid thing. I expect you agree. My brain definitely dazzles and impresses me on the Regular. It's just something it does ya know, sometimes with very little prodding. <--- She's a real Beaut! (if I do say so myself. And I do, as often as required) Also, I recommend if a gun is ever pointed in your general direction go ahead and be afraid. Instincts are valuable, we got 'em for a reason. They aren't there just to hold you back and hold you down. I swear, your tail will offer little in the way of shield or bat. Be nice to your tail Moonbeam. Again, my tail is off limits silly.

The story you paint of your previous existence before the Great Light Bulb popped up over your head shining and a'pulsing is... well... solved I suppose, from your point of view [perspective]. Just keep in mind the pulsing light may cause seizures.
 

Younigue

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There's no need for long winded mystical humble-bragging to shill for your new political allies, just simplify it like them and proclaim "we're all going to die someday" as the solution to healthcare in this world. The desire to live well is simply a program that the man imposes on us all. I'm sure they'll still pretend you're as wise as they are.



At heart Moonbeam's not so different to his religious peers like creationists who also pretend a good display of conviction is what matters most.

True enough. Blustering and blathering does indeed feel validating in some dissociative kind of way I guess.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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Well, I am telling you why you can't trust anybody and my certainty about that isn't going to change just because you say 'I cant trust what you say, Moonbeam'. How will you deal with trust issues if you don't experience them? I think the real problem is that fact that you can't trust me doesn't matter to me because I knew that from the beginning. What you trust or don't trust matters not to me because I trust that my intention is to help you see that mistrust is a psychological prison. I see that prison and I know that if I could really trust I wouldn't be in it. Distrust is 1984. Everything is upside down and inside out. A revolution is perspective turns that all around. I appreciate deeply your reaching out to me this way. There isn't anything to worry about. All of our fears have already happened. Imagine if we could trust that.
Too bad so few want to listen, but I think I get it.

Hardly surprising nazi sympathizers claim the reich would've worked out if only everyone trusted that they could see what others couldn't .
 

crashtech

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It's just really sad that when you finally try to reach out to those who say they aren't among those who hate, you find that they are just as big of liars and haters as all the rest. Bigger liars, actually, since what they claim to represent is supposedly so much purer, cleaner, and more empathetic than the "other side." How fucking pathetic, really, such disgusting hateful bullshit.

I guess this is where I say goodbye.
 

Younigue

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It's just really sad that when you finally try to reach out to those who say they aren't among those who hate, you find that they are just as big of liars and haters as all the rest. Bigger liars, actually, since what they claim to represent is supposedly so much purer, cleaner, and more empathetic than the "other side." How fucking pathetic, really, such disgusting hateful bullshit.

I guess this is where I say goodbye.

Before you go... What solutions, compromises and negotiations did you bring to the table? It truly solves nothing just to say Can't We All Just Get Along?
 
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Moonbeam

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It's just really sad that when you finally try to reach out to those who say they aren't among those who hate, you find that they are just as big of liars and haters as all the rest. Bigger liars, actually, since what they claim to represent is supposedly so much purer, cleaner, and more empathetic than the "other side." How fucking pathetic, really, such disgusting hateful bullshit.

I guess this is where I say goodbye.
Welcome to the machine. They suffer and have a need to inflict it on others. The path they have chosen leads nowhere, sound and fury, signifying nothing.
 

Younigue

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Welcome to the machine. They suffer and have a need to inflict it on others. The path they have chosen leads nowhere, sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Moonbeam,

Your machine is sputtering.

Your approach is just a different kind of hate/anger/intolerance/superiority. You sound so silly at times. You said in one of your earlier posts somewhere something about it being difficult to put in to words... Clearly.

It is self-indulgence that makes you go on and on about the rhythm method you find so soothing.

By the way, I know I know it doesn't matter, it's all dust in the wind, the ether gets you even if no one else does and that's ultimately the meaning of life. See, I have a ridiculous amount of siblings and one of them has this 'I don't care 'cause why' approach to life but who she truly is, is extremely sensitive, a profoundly absurd martyr who uses bluntness and bitchyness to hide it. I've used you as yet another talking point with her why the 'I don't care because it's stupid to' is fruitless and only pretend affective. *Note: it's only the 'I don't care' stuff she she shares in common with you. You keep saying it matters not what any one has to say to you or what they think about what you just know so deeply. If it doesn't matter why do you keep trying to convince people that you are ultimately the God they've been searching for all along but just didn't know it?

*wink* <--- just 'cause (not flirting, I have a husband I'm in love with <--- ain't giving that up for no kind of spiritual epiphany) Yeah, I just made two arrow comments because that's just how I roll.
 
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Younigue

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Is this coming from a part of yourself you find beautiful?

Wait... Do you disagree? If so, Then Stop It!

Also,

Wait again... did you feel something about my post? Then stop It, you're not allowed (your rules, not mine).
 
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