Darrell Issa brings shame to my state :-(

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bradly1101

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Jaskalas

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Be nice if the Democrats cared about or even assisted the Republicans in dissecting the IRS to get to the bottom of how it was used as a political weapon. Shame on any who protect that criminal organization.

Issa has partisan reasons, but at least that makes him useful.
 

Moonbeam

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Be nice if the Democrats cared about or even assisted the Republicans in dissecting the IRS to get to the bottom of how it was used as a political weapon. Shame on any who protect that criminal organization.

Issa has partisan reasons, but at least that makes him useful.

Nobody wants a criminal IRS, nor does anybody with a brain want false allegations to be seen as truth. You aren't going to get that objectivity from a fanatical partisan conservative brain defective, and demented idiot who lives in an altered reality bubble. What you get is bullying political corruption and the smell of conservative shit. Issa is a two bit Nazi. Partisan deviation and distortion should be met with treason charges. He should be held to the same scrutiny as he tries to apply. He's just another Republican Joe McCarthy, a fucking worthless bully ass.

Alternatively, any attempt to use the IRS for political purposes should be equally severely dealt with. Best of all, a revolution to get corporations and money out of the political system and return the government to thinking citizen minded people.
 

monovillage

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I remember him when he was in California politics. Respectfully he was a tool. I can't believe he keeps getting elected.

Doesn't the GOP realize how much stuff like this hurts them?

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4486102/issa-vs-cummings

He was almost the Republican frontrunner for CA's governor (1:35):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VW0v7wwfkQ

You're an ignorant douche lizard. Being angry at Rep. Issa because he was trying to get to the bottom of the illegal IRS activity aimed at conservatives and Republicans. I notice you give a pass the ex-IRS official refusing to testify.
 

glenn1

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I remember him when he was in California politics. Respectfully he was a tool. I can't believe he keeps getting elected.

Doesn't the GOP realize how much stuff like this hurts them?

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4486102/issa-vs-cummings

He was almost the Republican frontrunner for CA's governor (1:35):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VW0v7wwfkQ

Can't watch the video now, but presumably you mean this story. If so can you explain why you're all hot and bothered about it? Seems like a completely unremarkable partisan 'argument' to me.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014...ng-as-cummings-calls-proceedings-un-american/
 

Jhhnn

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You're an ignorant douche lizard. Being angry at Rep. Issa because he was trying to get to the bottom of the illegal IRS activity aimed at conservatives and Republicans. I notice you give a pass the ex-IRS official refusing to testify.

Issa never tried to get to the bottom of anything in his career. He's a partisan propagandist who panders to conspiracy theorists like you.
 

MagickMan

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Why didn't the black congressman just ask his question, instead of grandstanding for 5 minutes?
 

Jhhnn

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Why didn't the black congressman just ask his question, instead of grandstanding for 5 minutes?

Why does that matter? One of Issa's basic techniques is to control the conversation. When he can't do that, he just adjourns the committee, cuts the mic, being a free speech advocate & all.

Truth seeking not found, btw.

Grandstanding? That's Issa's career in a nutshell.
 

glenn1

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Why didn't the black congressman just ask his question, instead of grandstanding for 5 minutes?

Yes, it probably was grandstanding, but why didn't the white congressman give a "last call for questions" before adjournment and then further escalate the situation?
 

MagickMan

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No, really, I watched that and the guy wouldn't ask his question, despite Issa sitting 3 times for him to get around to it, then he just started to go off with ad hominem attacks.

Yes, it probably was grandstanding, but why didn't the white congressman give a "last call for questions" before adjournment and then further escalate the situation?

Fair point, but the witness had already said she wasn't answering questions and asserted her 5th amendment rights.
 
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HomerJS

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Why didn't the black congressman just ask his question, instead of grandstanding for 5 minutes?

Issa cut his mike off. Can't get your question entered in the record.

So why did massa cut the congressman's mike??
 

monovillage

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Issa never tried to get to the bottom of anything in his career. He's a partisan propagandist who panders to conspiracy theorists like you.

Which is why Lerner was refusing to testify. Even a partisan apologist like yourself should be disgusted by the use of the IRS to punish political enemies.
 

Jhhnn

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Which is why Lerner was refusing to testify. Even a partisan apologist like yourself should be disgusted by the use of the IRS to punish political enemies.

Jumping to conclusions as usual, I see. I don't condone the IRS doing such things, but Lerner has her rights & is free to assert them w/o prejudice. Well, other than from hacks like yourself.

Issa knew she wouldn't answer questions, so he staged the whole thing to stir up the morons, the same sort who defended & adored Smokin' Joe.
 

WackyDan

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Why does that matter? One of Issa's basic techniques is to control the conversation. When he can't do that, he just adjourns the committee, cuts the mic, being a free speech advocate & all.

Truth seeking not found, btw.

Grandstanding? That's Issa's career in a nutshell.

The black congressman had a chance to ask a question and didn't. He then went on a soap box tirade that was not part of protocol at all. The intent of the hearing was to have her testify, short of that, there was no other part of the matter to discuss.

The black congressman is free to call his own hearing.

If I'm not mistaken, even these hearings follow some sort of parliamentary procedure which is fairly clear on how these proceedings go. The black congressman was talking "out of order".

You can scream all you want about Issa adjourning the hearing, but Issa did nothing wrong in following protocol...

Perhaps the IRS should be strictly following a protocol from here on out and stop itself from being used as a political weapon.
 

HomerJS

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Which is why Lerner was refusing to testify. Even a partisan apologist like yourself should be disgusted by the use of the IRS to punish political enemies.

Fox News's Great Van Susteren on taking the 5th. So are we playing Fox vs Fox??

 

Jhhnn

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The black congressman had a chance to ask a question and didn't.

Bullshit. Issa adjourned the meeting immediately after finishing with the witness.

He then went on a soap box tirade that was not part of protocol at all. The intent of the hearing was to have her testify, short of that, there was no other part of the matter to discuss.

The black congressman is free to call his own hearing.

I believe the committee chairman has to do that.

If I'm not mistaken, even these hearings follow some sort of parliamentary procedure which is fairly clear on how these proceedings go. The black congressman was talking "out of order".

You can scream all you want about Issa adjourning the hearing, but Issa did nothing wrong in following protocol...

Perhaps the IRS should be strictly following a protocol from here on out and stop itself from being used as a political weapon.

Heh. "Nothing wrong in following protocol' is an exquisitely lame excuse for pure grandstanding, don't you think?

Open meeting, talk shit, adjourn meeting before letting anybody else say a word. This is proper procedure? Really?
 
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Bowfinger

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Be nice if the Democrats cared about or even assisted the Republicans in dissecting the IRS to get to the bottom of how it was used as a political weapon. Shame on any who protect that criminal organization.

Issa has partisan reasons, but at least that makes him useful.
There's already an FBI investigation underway. Do you really think our clowns in Congress (let alone a lying sleazeball like Issa) can add any value beyond what the FBI will do?

By the way, the IRS being used as a "political weapon" claim is an RNC talking point, not a statement of fact. One of the reasons a Congressional investigation is guaranteed to be useless is because about half of Congress is treating that assumption as a foregone conclusion, as are so many here including yourself, apparently. An independent, objective investigation will determine whether there was any partisan intent behind the IRS reviews. It is a fact that left-leaning organizations were targeted for review as well, though it's not yet clear what criteria were used to select those organizations.
 

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I don't blame Cummings for getting upset and losing his cool. Issa shows such disrespect /disdain for Cummings and others by cutting off their microphone constantly and not allowing them to speak. This isn't the first time Issa has done this. Issa doesn't follow proper procedures and ettiquette and makes up his own rules as he goes along. Many congress members have just gotten tired of Issa's nonsense.
 

monovillage

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I don't blame Cummings for getting upset and losing his cool. Issa shows such disrespect /disdain for Cummings and others by cutting off their microphone constantly and not allowing them to speak. This isn't the first time Issa has done this. Issa doesn't follow proper procedures and ettiquette and makes up his own rules as he goes along. Many congress members have just gotten tired of Issa's nonsense.

You usually seem to be angry when the police break laws, but you're just fine with the IRS when they illegally target political opponents of the administration? Congressional inquiries are being blocked and stonewalled by this administration and you seem to be pretty happy with it.
 

MagickMan

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Issa cut his mike off. Can't get your question entered in the record.

So why did massa cut the congressman's mike??

I counted, he turned it back on twice, but shut it off each time the guy started grandstanding again, instead of asking his question.
 
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