Dash Cam Gift idea

lopri

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I am thinking of gifting a dash cam to a dear friend. I myself am a newb when it comes to these so I figured I would ask here.

Are there established, quality brands?
Are there established, quality product lines?
What criteria to look for?
Specific recommendations? ($200 tops)

Thanks in advance!
 

Kaido

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I like ones that have front & rear cameras. Blackvue is one of the best brands, but they are several hundred dollars. Garmin has a couple & they are a big name, although a lot of other brands beat them on both price & features. My current favorite is the Spy Tec K1S with GPS, although it's a bit more at $240: (installation is easier since you can place the cameras & recorder anywhere you want)

http://www.amazon.com/Spy-Tec-K1S-GPS-Logger/dp/B00TM59NCK/

The Falcon Zero is a pretty easy to install model for $140: (clips over the rearview mirror & has dual cameras)

http://www.amazon.com/Falcon-Zero-F360-HD-Mirror/dp/B00E56WY18/

Back to Spy Tec, they also have a wedge model with a capacitor (instead of battery, which is a good thing) for $80:

http://www.amazon.com/Spy-Tec-A118-C-Capacitor-Dashboard/dp/B00SK8B47W/

Lots of options, depends on what features you want & what type of installation it needs. Easiest is just to slap in a wedge with a battery. Second easiest is a clip-on rearview model, which gives you dual cameras in one unit - just run the 12V wire along the windshield. Or else take it to an installer to get it mounted cleanly, hide the wires, etc.
 

lopri

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Thanks Kaido and zerogear.

@Kaido: I did not realize that there are two directions to record. That makes sense. I looked at the one you linked and it's got a lot of wires, which are kind of intimidating. I think for my friend (and for me) the easier install/maintenance the better.

The Falcon Zero looks like just what the doctor ordered. What is its drawback?

What does capacitor do? (the 3rd link)

There indeed are so many options in the brief time I did my search, and I am a little overwhelmed.

@zerogear: GoSafe 260 looks quite similar to Falcon F360 (the 2nd link Kaido provided). I do like that it kind of hides/disguise itself in a back mirror.

What about the models with integrated GPS? Are they worth extra $$?
 

lopri

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I think I can extend the budget slightly if the quality warrants it.
 

zerogear

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Thanks Kaido and zerogear.

@Kaido: I did not realize that there are two directions to record. That makes sense. I looked at the one you linked and it's got a lot of wires, which are kind of intimidating. I think for my friend (and for me) the easier install/maintenance the better.

The Falcon Zero looks like just what the doctor ordered. What is its drawback?

What does capacitor do? (the 3rd link)

There indeed are so many options in the brief time I did my search, and I am a little overwhelmed.

@zerogear: GoSafe 260 looks quite similar to Falcon F360 (the 2nd link Kaido provided). I do like that it kind of hides/disguise itself in a back mirror.

What about the models with integrated GPS? Are they worth extra $$?


Honestly I don't think any GPS ones are worth it -- because they tend to record travel speed as well as location -- and travel speed can work against you if you get into an accident.

Also capacitors are nice if you use the dashcam in an extreme cold/hot environment, because batteries can explode during such situations, where capacitors don't.

Image processing is also important, if you're looking in Ultra HD 2K range -- Ambarella A7L chip is generally what is recommended.
 
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lopri

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Oh, I do not think 2K is necessary for him. I was thinking that 720p would more than suffice. 1080p is luxurious enough for the intended.

P.S. A lot of these have a max SD card support up to 32 GB. Why is that?
 
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zerogear

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Oh, I do not think 2K is necessary for him. I was thinking that 720p would more than suffice. 1080p is luxurious enough for the intended.

P.S. A lot of these have a max SD card support up to 32 GB. Why is that?

I think it's the amount the tested up till. I know a few Papago supports 64gb, but I never felt the need - since all dash cameras have loop recording, so they overwrite the oldest files with new ones when it gets filled.
 

luv2liv

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Blackvue is a brand name with tons of features. The one I use is mobius actionCam. Basic 1080p cam that's small enough to work as a sport cam too. Usually under $80
 

JeffMD

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No, 1080p is ideal for catching license plates. 720p is not only low resolution but more likely to be a poor quality image too.
 

Kaido

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Thanks Kaido and zerogear.

@Kaido: I did not realize that there are two directions to record. That makes sense. I looked at the one you linked and it's got a lot of wires, which are kind of intimidating. I think for my friend (and for me) the easier install/maintenance the better.

The Falcon Zero looks like just what the doctor ordered. What is its drawback?

What does capacitor do? (the 3rd link)

There indeed are so many options in the brief time I did my search, and I am a little overwhelmed.

@zerogear: GoSafe 260 looks quite similar to Falcon F360 (the 2nd link Kaido provided). I do like that it kind of hides/disguise itself in a back mirror.

What about the models with integrated GPS? Are they worth extra $$?

I'd like to record in a 360, but multi-channel systems aren't readily available (front & rear, left & right, interior facing out driver's window). Covers you if you get mugged at the window, rear-ended, t-boned, etc. Cheap insurance...at least you have video proof of what happened & can get someone's face or license plate. Aside from multi-channel systems not being off-the-shelf (or cheap), most dashcams aren't super reliable...just look at Amazon reviews for all of the issues you can run into. For example, like zerogear said, capacitors are nicer because they don't stand as much of a chance of exploding like batteries can.

GPS is nice for proving location on a date & time, but again like zerogear said, it can work against you (speeding or if you do something shady). There are tons of features available...like there's a Blackvue model that can hook up to your smartphone to view the video, rather than having to hook up the SD card to a PC. Or parking mode where if someone hits your parked car, it has a buffer & can get a video of them from a hit & run. Lots of options, lots of confusion, can be real hard to pick out a good one. Most are junk, based solely on reviews online at places like Amazon & Youtube.

The wedge models & the Falcon Zero clip-on types are probably the easiest ones to do. You can get a wedge for the front & rear too, which gives you better visibility out the back window. The big thing is getting power to everything because nobody wants to be switching batteries all the time, so you either have to DIY or take it into a car stereo type of shop for a clean install. Also like zerogear said, there are some higher-resolution models that give you a lot better visibility of license plates...remember the 1080p HD models are high-def, but it's also a small, cheap camera in motion, so it's not like taking a still picture. Plus it's useful to get IR (infrared) LED's on the camera so it can pick up images in the dark better. It can get expensive & complicated quick...you kind of have to sift through what you want vs. your budget, and then find the best fit for how you want to handle the installation. Basic checklist:

a. Number of cameras
b. Quality of cameras (SD, 720, 1080, UltraHD)
c. IR LED's on cameras (for nightvision)
d. Recording capacity
e. Visibility of installation from the outside of the car
f. Parking mode
g. Power, battery, capacitor
i. GPS
j. Smartphone hookup
k. Computer software (some tie into Google Maps to show you the route etc.)
l. Installation procedure (simple to complex, DIY to take to a shop)
m. Budget available
n. Reviews of hardware/software

The Falcon one is pretty easy (plenty of clones too, although keep an eye on the ratings). Here's a video introduction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD1mTqf0-EQ
 

J_IVAN

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I like ones that have front & rear cameras. Blackvue is one of the best brands, but they are several hundred dollars. Garmin has a couple & they are a big name, although a lot of other brands beat them on both price & features. My current favorite is the Spy Tec K1S with GPS, although it's a bit more at $240: (installation is easier since you can place the cameras & recorder anywhere you want)

http://www.amazon.com/Spy-Tec-K1S-GPS-Logger/dp/B00TM59NCK/

The Falcon Zero is a pretty easy to install model for $140: (clips over the rearview mirror & has dual cameras)

http://www.amazon.com/Falcon-Zero-F360-HD-Mirror/dp/B00E56WY18/

Back to Spy Tec, they also have a wedge model with a capacitor (instead of battery, which is a good thing) for $80:

http://www.amazon.com/Spy-Tec-A118-C-Capacitor-Dashboard/dp/B00SK8B47W/

Lots of options, depends on what features you want & what type of installation it needs. Easiest is just to slap in a wedge with a battery. Second easiest is a clip-on rearview model, which gives you dual cameras in one unit - just run the 12V wire along the windshield. Or else take it to an installer to get it mounted cleanly, hide the wires, etc.


The Spy Tec K1S dual cam is great and professional but the price is a little high, and for common use it is not very necessory.
 

Kaido

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The Spy Tec K1S dual cam is great and professional but the price is a little high, and for common use it is not very necessory.

Yeah, the biggest catch is the price. But I like that you can put the cameras wherever you want, so you can get a full view of the front & a full view of the back, rather than through the passenger compartment like with the Falcon dual-camera rearview mirror clip-on model. Plus, you can hide the recorder somewhere like your glovebox, so even if someone tries to rip off the camera or something, you still have the footage.
 

lopri

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Thank you everyone and I am still learning. Kaido especially for rich first-hand experiences. Based upon Kaido's and others' advice I have ruled out GPS. Having said that, I do not think 360 degree coverage is necessary. Front and rear sounds good. I am hoping to simply gifting it, worst case scenario being spending time together with my friend for a couple of hours to help install it.. I am going through the checkup list Kaido provided to see what makes sense. To be frank I am stuck at the first item on the list (quality of camera) because I am not sure of an minimum acceptable quality in case of an unexpected incidence.

I am still looking and any advice is appreciated. Wow, this is a lot more complicated than I thought.
 

Kelvrick

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I'm surprised this hasn't been linked yet.

https://dashcamtalk.com/

I personally use the B40/A118 pointed forward behind my rearview mirror and a g1w pointed back in the space above my rearview mirror. I've been thinking of upgrading to the Street Guardian or other wedge design and a mini 0805 or 0806 although the K1S seems pretty nifty. I agree on not getting GPS. Capacitors are nice for peace of mind, but annoying if you got a few days without driving your car because all your settings will reset.
 
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