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Complying with the lawful orders of a police officer makes you safer, speeds up the encounter, makes you more likely to get a warning or cited for a lesser traffic offense, and is just the polite thing to do. Or you can act like this guy and use your constitutional rights to annoy a cop just to be a dickhead. Nothing will excuse police brutality but you are fucking moron if you do things to provoke it in someone inclined to use it.
shut up retard.In the video, Runnels pulls Bryce over and approaches the car. He tells Bryce to get out but doesn’t give a reason. Bryce repeatedly asks if he is under arrest. Runnels says, “You’re under arrest. Get your ass out of the car,” and attempts to pull him out by force. He then tases Bryce for 23 seconds, handcuffs him, drags the boy’s body behind the car, and deliberately drops him face first onto the asphalt road. Runnels may not have known it at the time, but Bryce was going into cardiac arrest. When the loud thud of the drop boomed throughout the courtroom, gasps echoed out. One woman looked down and covered her eyes with her hand. A man said, “Oh, my god.” A police officer with the Kansas City Police Department quickly brought his fist to his mouth, turned to the man next to him, and whispered, “Jesus.” Even those sitting behind the defendant — a few friends, his wife, his family — gasped, as if the recording revealed a truth about Runnels they had never considered.
shut up retard.
besides. who gives a shit what you think.
the cops on his way to jail.
Okay genius, let's do a little cost/benefit analysis of the situation.
Option A: Obey the officer to roll down window and/or and get out of the car.
Pros: survival rate approaches 100%, on the way faster, quicker, likely lesser citation charged.
Cons: ????? 1-2 calories expended rolling down window maybe, otherwise I got nothing
Option B: Disobey the officer, refuse to get out of car, repeatedly utter "am I under arrest"
Pros: Stick it to the man! Potential for sexy looking new bruises and/or scars
Cons: Probable annoyed cop (might be seen as a benefit to the person choosing this option); increased probability of increased charges; increased time commitment for the encounter; potential for adverse side effects including ass beatings, tasering, coma, vegetable state, and death.
Meanwhile, Independence police officials were intent on controlling the story. The first news reports about the incident included comments from a spokesperson who said Bryce was stopped for an outstanding warrant, and that he refused to follow the officers commands. He was just being completely uncooperative with the officer, the spokesperson told KCTV. Later, a different spokesperson would tell KCTV that the use of the Taser was in policy. Runnelss name wasnt initially released. A tweet from the department later that night, at 7:28 p.m., read, Carstop on Southside for warrant assoc. Driver uncooperative, struggles, taser deployed, additional struggle. AMR ordered (Taser protocol). It was clear that officials were determined to place blame on Bryce and paint a picture of a lawful stop that escalated into a justified use of force.
you're backing a losing horse you should really try to stop.
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07...-8-minutes-now-facing-a-lifetime-of-recovery/
That's a very informative article, thanks.
So, as it turns out, the kid's dad is a cop, and he was just doing what his dad had told him to do in the event that he was stopped by police.
I doubt it'll silence the bootlickers in here, though.
it silenced glenn alright.
That's a very informative article, thanks.
So, as it turns out, the kid's dad is a cop, and he was just doing what his dad had told him to do in the event that he was stopped by police.
I doubt it'll silence the bootlickers in here, though.
Runnels had resigned from the Kansas City department under threat of termination in 2010. During roll call one day, Runnels was describing a recent unsuccessful hunting trip. During the otherwise unobjectionable story, Runnels said he and his friends decided to switch tactics and try “n****r hunting” instead. Matt wasn’t sure what this was supposed to mean and wasn’t present when the incident happened, but word spread quickly about the foul-mouthed cop who was written up on the spot for nonchalantly using a racial slur during a gathering of officers. The story became notorious among Kansas City cops. (A member of Runnels’s defense team, asked for comment, said he had no information about his client’s departure from the Kansas City Police Department.)
The Independence Police Department was hardest on him. Once Bryce learned to drive again, Independence squad cars followed him several times, sometimes even pulling up next to him so the officers could smirk or wave. On one occasion, he said, he was out bowling when two officers approached him and sarcastically asked how he was doing.
Matt, Stacy, and Bryce all said that the harassment has become worse. Bryce was recently ticketed for allegedly going 80 mph in a 40 mph zone by an officer who claimed he had paced the car to determine its speed instead of using a radar gun. Bryce denied he was going anywhere near that fast. Even on the night of Runnels’ sentencing, Bryce said, he was followed by an Independence squad car for at least 3 miles. In another incident, a police cruiser blocked him in; a few nights later he was pulled over. The Independence Police Department did not respond to a request for comment.
But Matt was grappling not only with his perspective as father and husband, but the fact that Runnels was a fellow police officer. “I still get what cops go through, the decision-making process, the damned if you do, damned if you don’t process,” Matt said. It was easier for him to view Runnels’s actions as an error of judgment exacerbated by ignorance. “It goes back to the way he was trained. Because you’re only as good as the training.”
“Do you feel sorry for him?” Stacy once asked, referring to Runnels. Matt took his time, doing his best to weigh a year’s worth of soul-searching. “Yeah, I kind of do,” he concluded.
Matt told him that if an officer ever stopped him, he had every right to know why he was being stopped, and whether he was under arrest. The conversation was still fresh in Bryce’s mind on September 14 when Officer Runnels pulled him over.
When asked if he still has faith in the system, considering that Runnels is one of the rare officers to face criminal punishment for using excessive force, Matt shakes his head no. He knows there are many deserving cases, especially involving minority victims, that never see the inside of a courtroom. “I get a lot of sympathy from my black cop friends, like, ‘this is what we’ve been saying about cops for a long, long time.'”
Oh yes, the police officer deliberately stopped him knowing that he would resist orders and thus be able to taser him to death. Probably stalked this kid for days waiting the opportunity to use his jedi mind control powers to force him to refuse orders just so he could mercilessly kill him.
The childish need some of you have to resist authority "just because I can" doesn't seem to play well with people empowered by the state to use violence. Enjoy the thrill of getting to stick it to the man and refuse reasonable lawful orders like "step out of the car" because the vast overwhelming majority of the time he won't kick your ass. It's that small chance that he will that makes it exciting for you though, isn't it?
I agree.
What do these people gain by defying the orders from a police officer? Nothing. If that kid would have walked his ass out of the car so the officer could properly ID him, then he would probably still be a functioning adult. Now, he has brain damage and will need assistance for the rest of his life.
The officer did go overboard. Probably because he was frustrated. He paid for it with his job and will be spending a few years in a federal jail. He should have known better.
Fuck that kid. You want to be a smart ass and start shit with a cop, there is your lesson. I'm sure this bitch pulls the same shit with school authorities. It didn't have to go down like that, but the little bitch wanted to be a smart ass. I'd prefer cops take it up a notch actually. You're too stupid to act civil during a standard stop, you deserve all that's coming to you. This shithead was just parroting off what he saw on YouTube (roll window down slightly, ask a bunch of stupid questions). Well, he played a game and lost. F him.
I love how most dipshits try to paint a picture that cops are going around tazing and shooting people randomly when they are just walking home from church. You get pulled over, I suggest you act civil, and comply with basic instructions. Roll the window down, give DL and proof of insurance. Done. You can't do that without some bullshit attitude, maybe you shouldn't be walking around in the first place.
Read the fucking article. The kid was merely doing what his POLICE OFFICER FATHER told him to do. And the officer knew who the kid was already, by name. Then LIED afterwards and made up bogus reasons for the stop.
Should have known better? Like when he dropped the now helpless kid, hands handcuffed behind his back and nearly unconscious, face first on the pavement? Or when he let the taser burn and burn the kid, stopping his goddamn heart, for 23 seconds, LONG after the kid was on the ground outside the car and not resisting?
Read the fucking article, you mealy-mouthed twerp. Read ALL of it.
Can anyone tell in the video when the tasering starts and stops? I'm just wondering when the smug "told ya" comment comes into play.
http://www.stun-gun-defense-products.com/buy-stun-gun/downloads/TASER-X26c-specs.pdf
too easy.
and that's not the cop one either.
You just made my case for me, cycle says 10 seconds not 20 as the article and poster claimed. Try finding the one he used. The article says 4x too long, so they think they policy is 5 seconds which is probably accurate. As I said, every taser instructions I've been to say to use it more than once, until compliance is obtained or move to another tool.
I don't think how the cop acted was correctly, I just had a problem with the article's claim and then that of the poster regarding it.
i'll make it big so you can read it properly.1. Output characteristics
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Wave form: Complex shaped pulse
Pulse rate: 17 pulses per second (PPS) for 2 seconds, 10 PPS thereafter
for up to 30 seconds total
Pulse duration: 100 microseconds
The trigger activates a 10-second cycle. Second and third pull increments
the cycle 10 seconds each up to 30 seconds total. The cycle can be
stopped by placing the safety lever in the safe position.
You can hear the taser. Starts at 1:17, ends at 1:40.
The "told ya" was mid-stun.
not sure if stupid or bad at reading...
i'll make it big so you can read it properly.
so if it you pull trigger 3 times while discharging it it runs for 30 seconds.
I am really wondering what model he has now that I think about it and know clearly when the tasing starts and stops. If he just has to keep the trigger pulled I can sort of understand "heat of the moment" or some bullshit, albeit the cop was most definitely not in anything I would consider a high stress situation. OTOH, if he had to actively pull the trigger again there is no excuse whatsoever. He could have juiced that kid in the arm for 2 secs with a regular stun gun and gained compliance. I understand he probably doesn't carry one unless his taser doubles as one but the point is there was absolutely no need to juice the kid for that long. He was starting to comply almost as soon as the juice started flowing.
I kinda get what the people are saying regarding the kid could have acted different... like how it's legal for me to go buy and eat 100 McD's hamburgers, but probably not the greatest idea and could be lethal to my health.
That said, this is more akin to the McD's employee shoving the hamburgers down my throat against my will. At the end of the day, it's not the kids fault, even if he could have made his own life simpler.
I am not going to get into a full explanation on this video - quick notes:
Bad police work. The officer escalated the situation too quickly and he should have shown better patience with the kid. The officer should have known he may have been having a medical issue after the kid was cuffed, and definitely should not have dumped him on the sidewalk like that. The officer deserves to be punished.
The taser did not deploy properly when the officer used it. The probes my have not made good contact - the kid didn't actually get tased until he was face down on the road and yelled. If you are being tased, you cannot get up out of your car. This is probably why the officer kept activating it. I did not count how many seconds he was actually tased.
FYI for everyone here - asking "for what" and "am I being arrested" do NOT overrule an officers directions. Just because you start yelling if you are being arrested or not is not going to help anything and it is not going to stop the officer from doing what he is doing. He does not owe you an explanation right that instant. When he feels you are in a position that you are not a threat to him, he will give you this information. So enough with the "kid acted exactly like his police officer dad told him to" - I really doubt the kids dad told him to not follow officers directions, but hey I wasn't there I guess.
And finally - what do all of these officer misconduct, shooting, tasing, ect. videos have in common? On all of them, a person refused to listen or comply with the officers directions. PLEASE JUST FOLLOW THE OFFICERS DIRECTIONS FOR YOUR SAFETY AND THEIRS.