I think she is responsible for what she did. What exactly do you think her punishment should be if she's found guilty of something? What do you think she would be guilty of?
So you can't defend her so you resort to attacking Trump. We've been discussing Hillary and the consequences of her actions. Trump is an idiot, and a POS. Because I'm looking at Hillary does not mean I embrace Trump. All you have to find is where I have.
Now back to Hillary. I've mentioned that she's legally liable for her handling of defense related information. Without diverting, am I right or wrong? One or the other. Other people are responsible for what they do. She is too.
I think she is responsible for what she did. What exactly do you think her punishment should be if she's found guilty of something? What do you think she would be guilty of?
So you can't defend her so you resort to attacking Trump. We've been discussing Hillary and the consequences of her actions. Trump is an idiot, and a POS. Because I'm looking at Hillary does not mean I embrace Trump. All you have to find is where I have.
Now back to Hillary. I've mentioned that she's legally liable for her handling of defense related information. Without diverting, am I right or wrong? One or the other. Other people are responsible for what they do. She is too.
I did defend her. Nobody is completely honest, particularly politicians. We're simply left with a matter of comparative advantage in selecting the next President. By all rational measure Hillary is the more truthful of the two in this campaign, something that needs to be acknowledged by her detractors.
The rest? you laid out a fanciful scenario leading to indictment and now back pedal into generality. I'll just let real lawyers sort it out.
I did defend her. Nobody is completely honest, particularly politicians
Trump is rated as a bigger liar. Hillary less so. If one commits a crime how should that change the outcome?
Oh, note I said there were real potential consequences. I presented the law which addressed it. I don't trust Hillary as far as I can throw her. I don't trust Trump either. You go off the subject and hit Trump which by no stretch of the imagination has anything to do with this. I quoted specific law and circumstances where it could kick in. I mean argue with the law, if you like, but if she's broken it then nothing you say about Trump changes her actions.
Diversion needn't apply.
Trump is rated as a bigger liar. Hillary less so. If one commits a crime how should that change the outcome?
Oh, note I said there were real potential consequences. I presented the law which addressed it. I don't trust Hillary as far as I can throw her. I don't trust Trump either. You go off the subject and hit Trump which by no stretch of the imagination has anything to do with this. I quoted specific law and circumstances where it could kick in. I mean argue with the law, if you like, but if she's broken it then nothing you say about Trump changes her actions.
Diversion needn't apply.
What she gets is dependent on what happened. If she's merely irresponsible there's no law against that as far as I know. If on the other hand it were found that her system was hacked and defense information was obtained then she's liable for the consequences for lack of due diligence. What should happen? I'll wait for the particulars. A fine may be appropriate in some case, if there was a serious breach and it was found that she committed a gross disregard? Throw the book at her like anyone else in her position. This is SoS, not a janitor, and that office has needs and responsibilities. In the case of Powell mentioned earlier, if his actions led to a breach then the same thing. Future SoS? The same. This is serious business, not a political turf war.
The Espionage Act has been in place a very long time for very good reasons. The world has not become a kinder gentler place.
Anyway I'll not pronounce sentence unless there's a finding to this effect and then it depends on just what happened in context. For now I don't have enough data.
My point is that some people believe there is nothing of real concern, and I disagree, there is potential for it to be otherwise. Note potential.
A lot of people like to throw out the espionage act but one of the key components is that there must be intent.
The whole thing is remarkably twisted. It's well known that Hillary worked closely with the Treasury Dept, the FRB & the international banking community to stem the cascading collapse of the entire financial community. The fact that it worked is a blessing to us all. So maybe if the documentation in the calendar is a little thin in a few places (60 or so out of thousands) maybe it was because they were kinda busy rather than trying to hide the obvious.
Just don't forget that while liberals are analyzing the light and dark patches on a tiger the conservatives are all up in the trees. Sometimes all that hooting and grunting means something.
Yeah but... it seems no one notices the pyroclastic flow about to engulf the region. Trump seems to be doing as much as he can to not be elected and I wonder why and how on earth can he be so dense if that's not the case.Just don't forget that while liberals are analyzing the light and dark patches on a tiger the conservatives are all up in the trees. Sometimes all that hooting and grunting means something.
Just don't forget that while liberals are analyzing the light and dark patches on a tiger the conservatives are all up in the trees. Sometimes all that hooting and grunting means something.
Huma admits Hillary put schedule in burn bag
http://nypost.com/2016/07/04/huma-abedin-admits-that-clinton-burned-daily-schedules/
You ever wonder why your information only shows up in tabloids and right wing websites?
Abedin made the surprising admission in response to a question about document destruction at the Department of State. A lawyer for Judicial Watch asked: “And during your tenure at the State Department, were you aware of your obligation not to delete federal records or destroy federal records?”
That's the proper way of disposing of hard copies. Unless she was getting rid of the only copy of the real schedule it's completely above board. If she was getting rid of evidence there'd be no way to prove it because it was burned. The only way this has any value is if someone in her inner circle says she was destroying the real schedule and that can be corroborated with some other evidence.Huma admits Hillary put schedule in burn bag
http://nypost.com/2016/07/04/huma-abedin-admits-that-clinton-burned-daily-schedules/
That came from an deposition by Judicial Watch.
You have a problem with Judicial Watch?
That's the proper way of disposing of hard copies. Unless she was getting rid of the only copy of the real schedule it's completely above board. If she was getting rid of evidence there'd be no way to prove it because it was burned. The only way this has any value is if someone in her inner circle says she was destroying the real schedule and that can be corroborated with some other evidence.
This one, in a vacuum, is a non starter and it's so trivially easy to defend I'd think it was a slow pitch softball to support the poor downtrodden Hillary narrative.
Yeah but... it seems no one notices the pyroclastic flow about to engulf the region. Trump seems to be doing as much as he can to not be elected and I wonder why and how on earth can he be so dense if that's not the case.
Sometimes? Like the first time? The third time? Tenth? 15th? 30th time? The problem is that the Republicans have been hooting and grunting for thirty years. What makes this time different from all the last time?
The point is that because you have put them in the 30 times box you will be asleep when they are right and be unwakable. I will not because I don't know anything. The program doesn't take.
The point is that because you have put them in the 30 times box you will be asleep when they are right and be unwakable. I will not because I don't know anything. The program doesn't take.
Lol. No. It just means I'll need more proof and concrete evidence before I let my gut get the best of me. In fact I'd say I'm more awake and in tune to any actual wrong doing because my senses haven't been overloaded with crap for the past 30 years, aka sleep deprivation.
You not knowing anything is an excuse to be mentally lazy and to let your gut keep your CBD in control of your thinking.