Dating a battered woman

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Well, honestly, you know what is happening in her life, you know the terror that she is living with, why are you going to let her continue to live like that? Maybe not dating her now would be the best thing, but definitely helping her out of that situation would be the best thing you could ever do for her. No joke. I mean, like, you can date her if you want to, but it's going to be a long journey of healing for her, but being a friend, helping her get a restraining order and all that jazz, that is what she needs now.

she isnt his responsiblity. he has (presumably) his own life to deal with and he would be retarded to toss it out the window for some broad he met on myspace. The woman is an adult not a helpless child. She can have out of whatever shituation she got herself into in the first place.

If life were as simple as you make it out to be, she never would have ended up in the situation in the first place. Just because "it isn't his responsibility" to do something, the fact is he has come into this persons life and now knows that she is being abused. The right thing to do is to help in whatever way he can. At the very least he could be an outlet for her to communicate her thoughts and feelings so that she can figure out on her own how to best handle the situation.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Well, honestly, you know what is happening in her life, you know the terror that she is living with, why are you going to let her continue to live like that? Maybe not dating her now would be the best thing, but definitely helping her out of that situation would be the best thing you could ever do for her. No joke. I mean, like, you can date her if you want to, but it's going to be a long journey of healing for her, but being a friend, helping her get a restraining order and all that jazz, that is what she needs now.

she isnt his responsiblity. he has (presumably) his own life to deal with and he would be retarded to toss it out the window for some broad he met on myspace. The woman is an adult not a helpless child. She can have out of whatever shituation she got herself into in the first place.

Yeah, just think of yourself first, last, and always! Fellow human beings should never be considered as anything other than a means toward your own ends (so continue to lead her on and use her for your own sexual gratification), but by no means help her in any way. :roll::disgust::|

stop putting words in my mouth

that's what your post does imply though

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
Like i said the x i dont think is a problem. As far as she has talked about him to me, he is a coward, small guy with loads of gambling debts. I like this girl alot as i said. If i knew her better id say it was close to love. I grew up with sisters so i feel my heart sink when i think about it.

shens. you are full of sh1t. you are not in love you went on 1 date. you are an insecure fool desperate to cling onto any female showing you attention.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I'd have her stay with me and make sure the guy knew that she was with me. When he breaks into my house to do soemething about it, I'd rip him 30 new 7.62mm holes with my AK. Problem solved

On a serious note, you really really need to arm up and keep her with you until he does something about it. Don't let on that you're packing heat until you're pulling the trigger. Make sure he breaks in before you start shooting.

wtf gun toting moron. this isnt his battle or his business. he needs to walk away.

The OP says he really likes her and wants to have a future with her. I don't think that's to be taken lightly. This seems to be to be a perfectly rational way for all parties to come out ahead. The guy, if he really is as violent as implied, will not hesitate to break into the OP's house to "get them"

If the OP is prepared, he can save everyone a lot of headache and just exercise his basic Castle Doctronie rights and blow the POS away. Everybody wins.

 

[reverend boltron]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Well, honestly, you know what is happening in her life, you know the terror that she is living with, why are you going to let her continue to live like that? Maybe not dating her now would be the best thing, but definitely helping her out of that situation would be the best thing you could ever do for her. No joke. I mean, like, you can date her if you want to, but it's going to be a long journey of healing for her, but being a friend, helping her get a restraining order and all that jazz, that is what she needs now.

she isnt his responsiblity. he has (presumably) his own life to deal with and he would be retarded to toss it out the window for some broad he met on myspace. The woman is an adult not a helpless child. She can have out of whatever shituation she got herself into in the first place.

Some people are set in a victim mentality, so they really can't get out of the situation that they're in because they don't allow themselves to. So in reality, she may be a helpless child in her own eyes. She needs a stable foundation to start to build her own structure on, which is why I said it probably wouldn't be the best idea for him to date her, but for him to start the foundations of compassion in her life.

I tell you this, she really needs Jesus. Whom the Son set free is free indeed. And if you show her the love of Christ and help her out of her situation it will impact her eternity.

If you want to take the road where you don't care about anyone else or their problems or helping them out, that is your deal. Personally, I like to sow into the lives of people around me and plant seeds that will bear good fruit. Being a friend to someone isn't tossing your life out the window.

And if you ever become addicted to drugs or alcohol I hope you realize that you said that you can get yourself out of any situtation that you got yourself into. Because you really can't, not all of them. You personally might not choose to do certain things, but not everyone makes the same choices as you do, and some people need a teacher in order to understand things. Some people need to learn basic life concepts, and if they didn't have anyone to teach them to them in the first place, or someone who cared enough to, why then should they suffer their whole lives because of it?

I tell you this, before I came to know Jesus I had no idea how to get free from the things that were oppressing me. I had no way to get free from drugs and alcohol, and then He said, "My yoke is easy. My burdon is light" and I started to learn about living through Him, and I have continued to do so. This woman needs that same experience, to feel the love that she is lacking. That security that comes from the oppression is what she is using to try to fill the void of what she is lacking. The bible says we love because He first loved us. And she needs to experience that love.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Well, honestly, you know what is happening in her life, you know the terror that she is living with, why are you going to let her continue to live like that? Maybe not dating her now would be the best thing, but definitely helping her out of that situation would be the best thing you could ever do for her. No joke. I mean, like, you can date her if you want to, but it's going to be a long journey of healing for her, but being a friend, helping her get a restraining order and all that jazz, that is what she needs now.

she isnt his responsiblity. he has (presumably) his own life to deal with and he would be retarded to toss it out the window for some broad he met on myspace. The woman is an adult not a helpless child. She can have out of whatever shituation she got herself into in the first place.

Yeah, just think of yourself first, last, and always! Fellow human beings should never be considered as anything other than a means toward your own ends (so continue to lead her on and use her for your own sexual gratification), but by no means help her in any way. :roll::disgust::|

stop putting words in my mouth

that's what your post does imply though

he had one no strings attatched date with her and found out she has kids and pyscho x ......be done with it. he met this chick trolling for a new man to provide for her kids on myspace. no need to stick around for any of that sh1t unless you are a desperate fool. which he clearly is. If this girl was his friend, family etc.....yeah help her out but clearly she is still nailing her ex and probably get money from him too so he isnt going anywhere.

and on top of that i didnt mention anything about sexual gratification or not helping her in anyway. she is an adult point her in the right direction if she wants out she can do it herself.

 

[y2kc]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
Like i said the x i dont think is a problem. As far as she has talked about him to me, he is a coward, small guy with loads of gambling debts. I like this girl alot as i said. If i knew her better id say it was close to love. I grew up with sisters so i feel my heart sink when i think about it.

If she's into you she'll make the effort to get this handled or under control before pursuing a new relationship..

the ex is a problem, u may be thinking with your heart, not your head....

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I'd have her stay with me and make sure the guy knew that she was with me. When he breaks into my house to do soemething about it, I'd rip him 30 new 7.62mm holes with my AK. Problem solved

On a serious note, you really really need to arm up and keep her with you until he does something about it. Don't let on that you're packing heat until you're pulling the trigger. Make sure he breaks in before you start shooting.

wtf gun toting moron. this isnt his battle or his business. he needs to walk away.

The OP says he really likes her and wants to have a future with her. I don't think that's to be taken lightly. This seems to be to be a perfectly rational way for all parties to come out ahead. The guy, if he really is as violent as implied, will not hesitate to break into the OP's house to "get them"

If the OP is prepared, he can save everyone a lot of headache and just exercise his basic Castle Doctronie rights and blow the POS away. Everybody wins.

Society certainly does. Men who prey on women and/or children are beneath contempt.

 

[Bushman5]

are u retarded, i talked to her for 4 month and i went on like 15 dates. and i never said i was inlove, i said IF i knew her better id say it WAS love. But for your imformation u can know these things quite early in a relationship.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: reverend boltron

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Well, honestly, you know what is happening in her life, you know the terror that she is living with, why are you going to let her continue to live like that? Maybe not dating her now would be the best thing, but definitely helping her out of that situation would be the best thing you could ever do for her. No joke. I mean, like, you can date her if you want to, but it's going to be a long journey of healing for her, but being a friend, helping her get a restraining order and all that jazz, that is what she needs now.

she isnt his responsiblity. he has (presumably) his own life to deal with and he would be retarded to toss it out the window for some broad he met on myspace. The woman is an adult not a helpless child. She can have out of whatever shituation she got herself into in the first place.

Some people are set in a victim mentality, so they really can't get out of the situation that they're in because they don't allow themselves to. So in reality, she may be a helpless child in her own eyes. She needs a stable foundation to start to build her own structure on, which is why I said it probably wouldn't be the best idea for him to date her, but for him to start the foundations of compassion in her life.

I tell you this, she really needs Jesus. Whom the Son set free is free indeed. And if you show her the love of Christ and help her out of her situation it will impact her eternity.

If you want to take the road where you don't care about anyone else or their problems or helping them out, that is your deal. Personally, I like to sow into the lives of people around me and plant seeds that will bear good fruit. Being a friend to someone isn't tossing your life out the window.

And if you ever become addicted to drugs or alcohol I hope you realize that you said that you can get yourself out of any situtation that you got yourself into. Because you really can't, not all of them. You personally might not choose to do certain things, but not everyone makes the same choices as you do, and some people need a teacher in order to understand things. Some people need to learn basic life concepts, and if they didn't have anyone to teach them to them in the first place, or someone who cared enough to, why then should they suffer their whole lives because of it?

I tell you this, before I came to know Jesus I had no idea how to get free from the things that were oppressing me. I had no way to get free from drugs and alcohol, and then He said, "My yoke is easy. My burdon is light" and I started to learn about living through Him, and I have continued to do so. This woman needs that same experience, to feel the love that she is lacking. That security that comes from the oppression is what she is using to try to fill the void of what she is lacking. The bible says we love because He first loved us. And she needs to experience that love.

OR the OP could just kill the mthrfvcker :laugh: :evil:

God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps!

I'm not a marine, nor a marine pretender, but that was all I could think of while reading your post.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
Like i said the x i dont think is a problem. As far as she has talked about him to me, he is a coward, small guy with loads of gambling debts. I like this girl alot as i said. If i knew her better id say it was close to love. I grew up with sisters so i feel my heart sink when i think about it.

Let me get this straight... A guy has a confrontation with you on the phone, over his "ex". He views her as his property. He chokes her until she passes out. And you think there isn't a problem with this guy? And no one has reported this to anyone except ATOT...

 

[rgwalt]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I'd have her stay with me and make sure the guy knew that she was with me. When he breaks into my house to do soemething about it, I'd rip him 30 new 7.62mm holes with my AK. Problem solved

On a serious note, you really really need to arm up and keep her with you until he does something about it. Don't let on that you're packing heat until you're pulling the trigger. Make sure he breaks in before you start shooting.

wtf gun toting moron. this isnt his battle or his business. he needs to walk away.

Just because she isn't his responsibility does not mean he should walk away. That is his choice to make. He can choose to stay, be a friend, and help this woman, or to walk away. It is clear the choice that you (and others) would make, and there is nothing wrong with that. Not all people are like you though.

I agree that people should, in the end, always rely on themselves to fix their problems. Life ultimately boils down to personal responsibility. However, there is never anything wrong with offering, or accepting, help. Help is a gift, not an obligation. He isn't obligated, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to help another human being.

Also, this woman has every right to defend herself, her children, and her home, with deadly force if necessary. So does the OP. Just because you don't believe in using guns, don't force that belief on others. I live in the US in a state that backs my right to protect myself and my house with a fire arm if I so choose. The ex sounds like an extremely violent person. If he attacked you, would you not want to defend yourself?

Now, what I think is messed up is that the woman in this situation does not want to involve police. In my opinion, you cannot help someone who does not want to help themselves.

R

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
are u retarded, i talked to her for 4 month and i went on like 15 dates. and i never said i was inlove, i said IF i knew her better id say it WAS love. But for your imformation u can know these things quite early in a relationship.

No you can't, but you (and others) think you can, which explains the high divorce rate. But I digress . . .

I still vote for helping her, and if you're going to do so, you'd better carry a weapon. The ex clearly has anger issues, and likely WILL come hunting for you. He's already warned you once.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I'd have her stay with me and make sure the guy knew that she was with me. When he breaks into my house to do soemething about it, I'd rip him 30 new 7.62mm holes with my AK. Problem solved

On a serious note, you really really need to arm up and keep her with you until he does something about it. Don't let on that you're packing heat until you're pulling the trigger. Make sure he breaks in before you start shooting.

wtf gun toting moron. this isnt his battle or his business. he needs to walk away.

The OP says he really likes her and wants to have a future with her. I don't think that's to be taken lightly. This seems to be to be a perfectly rational way for all parties to come out ahead. The guy, if he really is as violent as implied, will not hesitate to break into the OP's house to "get them"

If the OP is prepared, he can save everyone a lot of headache and just exercise his basic Castle Doctronie rights and blow the POS away. Everybody wins.

he met this woman while she was trolling internet dating sites looking for a desperate simp just like the OP to be her new baby daddy. they went on 1 date. he is pathetic, I am willing to bet anything that he has no other options with women and hasnt for some time. he suffers from some insecurity and self esteem isssues.

you too i can also see as having some sort of small man complex spouting off about beign a hero and killing people. how many people have you killed tough guy? how short are you exactly?

 

[VoteQuimby]

Man up and help this woman out. Don't run away.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Mucho
You are a better man than me if you stick it out!

Thats pretty much my feelings as well. A bigger man might try to help her out...I personally don't care for the wrath of violent nut jobs. It'd be different though if I could just shoot them legally.

 

[Bushman5]

yes but u guys seem to be missing the point. i want to stay with her. But how do i deal with her present mental state. Im not used to biting a woman to the extent she told me to.

I dont know if im making stuff worst, should i tell her luv i dont need to hurt you for me to get off and u dont need to get hurt to get off, i mean yes rough sex is good pulling hair spalling ect but she at times takes it too far, i think she thinks all men like it like that.

As for the x i think i can handel him.

 

[Bushman5]

if however i have to deal with her present mental state for the extent of our relationship thjen yes i will toss her.

If she can change and i mena actaully change not just zombify her self into anotehr state of mind, thne yes i want to give it a shot.

and yes i luv kids.

 

[R Nilla]

BOOM! Headshot!

 

[y2kc]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
yes but u guys seem to be missing the point. i want to stay with her. But how do i deal with her present mental state. Im not used to biting a woman to the extent she told me to.

I dont know if im making stuff worst, should i tell her luv i dont need to hurt you for me to get off and u dont need to get hurt to get off, i mean yes rough sex is good pulling hair spalling ect but she at times takes it too far, i think she thinks all men like it like that.

As for the x i think i can handel him.

fine, forget the ex (unwise). she needs help (sounds like). her self esteem is so low she associates love with pain. get her to a psychiatrist stat.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
yes but u guys seem to be missing the point. i want to stay with her. But how do i deal with her present mental state. Im not used to biting a woman to the extent she told me to.

I dont know if im making stuff worst, should i tell her luv i dont need to hurt you for me to get off and u dont need to get hurt to get off, i mean yes rough sex is good pulling hair spalling ect but she at times takes it too far, i think she thinks all men like it like that.

As for the x i think i can handel him.

So how much of your hard earned dollars have you started funneling her way?

she is clearly damaged goods. offer minimal help (read: guidance) and move on.

 

[DurocShark]

I used to be into girls like that... "Knight in Shining Armor" syndrome I suppose.

Then I grew up.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I'd have her stay with me and make sure the guy knew that she was with me. When he breaks into my house to do soemething about it, I'd rip him 30 new 7.62mm holes with my AK. Problem solved

On a serious note, you really really need to arm up and keep her with you until he does something about it. Don't let on that you're packing heat until you're pulling the trigger. Make sure he breaks in before you start shooting.

wtf gun toting moron. this isnt his battle or his business. he needs to walk away.

The OP says he really likes her and wants to have a future with her. I don't think that's to be taken lightly. This seems to be to be a perfectly rational way for all parties to come out ahead. The guy, if he really is as violent as implied, will not hesitate to break into the OP's house to "get them"

If the OP is prepared, he can save everyone a lot of headache and just exercise his basic Castle Doctronie rights and blow the POS away. Everybody wins.

he met this woman while she was trolling internet dating sites looking for a desperate simp just like the OP to be her new baby daddy. they went on 1 date. he is pathetic, I am willing to bet anything that he has no other options with women and hasnt for some time. he suffers from some insecurity and self esteem isssues.

you too i can also see as having some sort of small man complex spouting off about beign a hero and killing people. how many people have you killed tough guy? how short are you exactly?

Could you possibly be more judgemental? Who's the troll now? I had a really and well thought out response all typed out for you that rationally explained how and why I feel the way I do, but then I realized that I shouldn't give your posts the dignity.

 

[Bushman5]

actually she has a really really good job. she is quite intelligent well read and artistic.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Bushman5
yes but u guys seem to be missing the point. i want to stay with her. But how do i deal with her present mental state. Im not used to biting a woman to the extent she told me to.

I dont know if im making stuff worst, should i tell her luv i dont need to hurt you for me to get off and u dont need to get hurt to get off, i mean yes rough sex is good pulling hair spalling ect but she at times takes it too far, i think she thinks all men like it like that.

As for the x i think i can handel him.

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